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Post by machomuta on Aug 9, 2015 17:06:49 GMT -5
Goddamn is he the definition of a midcarder cosplaying as a main eventer. No, that is HHH.
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Post by cuppacoffee - slight return on Aug 9, 2015 19:02:53 GMT -5
Wow no one is gonna mention big show 99? The one and only time I was so happy to see HHH win the belt back Most people don't even remember that reign happening. For sure. It lasted under two months. The only egregiously crappy thing about it was that he was a transitional champion between HHH and... umm... HHH...
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Aug 9, 2015 19:16:02 GMT -5
Goddamn is he the definition of a midcarder cosplaying as a main eventer. No, that is HHH. Triple H, as much as I loathed the Reign of Terror, and how it almost made me stop watching...I can actually buy him as a main eventer. Hell, I haven't even seen most of Jarrett's ME runs in WCW and TNA, but just hearing "Jeff Jarrett - World Champion" makes me scratch my head. Jarrett has always been a decent-to-good hand in the ring, don't get me wrong, just not someone I ever saw as a main event calibre guy. I seriously feel sorry for late WCW/early TNA fans. That had to be rough.
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Post by ICBM on Aug 9, 2015 20:26:48 GMT -5
Jerry Lawler AWA/USWA/WCCW champion in 89. I still recognize him as AWA champion. He wore the belt everytime I saw him on TV. Dude Kerry should have gone over and that whole thing would have worked. You can have a screw job rematch where Lawler wins and refuses a rematch. Then do the Kerry build vs every heal in CWA, AWA, WCCW and grab some departing JCP guys for him to beat.
China as women's champ. It was anti climactic. She was a mid card champion for a men's title. How exactly does Ivory come off as a challenge? If Ivory used heel tactics to counter, that would not have popped because the fans were so desensitized by the spot monkeying of every segment in the MNW. A chair shot to win didn't move the needle. He'll running someone's limo over with a monster truck wouldn't do it. This entire run was doomed unless you turn China heel and book her as the female Brock Lesnar of 2000.
D'Lo. I knew it wasn't going to work. Look man he was smooth and HD tremendous timing, but his act was nothing special and his association with Mark Henry killed some of his heat. This generation will they know Mark Henry was always a main event attraction or a huge monster. Reality is Vince spent millions to get him and he didn't pop. They repackaged and repackaged and it did nothing for almost ten years. If McMahon hadn't spent so much on Henry in 96 I don't think he'd have stuck around.
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Post by somsta on Aug 9, 2015 20:33:22 GMT -5
Yokozuna's first reign.
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Post by CMWaters on Aug 9, 2015 20:57:39 GMT -5
All of the minute of it before Hogan won it?
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Post by Hickster on Aug 9, 2015 21:02:09 GMT -5
Jerry Lawler AWA/USWA/WCCW champion in 89. I still recognize him as AWA champion. He wore the belt everytime I saw him on TV. Dude Kerry should have gone over and that whole thing would have worked. You can have a screw job rematch where Lawler wins and refuses a rematch. Then do the Kerry build vs every heal in CWA, AWA, WCCW and grab some departing JCP guys for him to beat. I watched during this time and feel the same way. Lawler would have been great tearing his way through eric Embry and Billy Joe Travis/Chris Adams on his way to Kerry.
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Post by saneiac on Aug 9, 2015 23:25:14 GMT -5
JBL's year long reign. Lots of people in this thread saying Jeff Jarrett had no place as a main eventer (plus a few saying the same about Eric Young), but both of them are more credible world champions than "I was part of a popular (but not very good) tag team, and now I'm suddenly a Ted DiBiase clone" JBL.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Aug 9, 2015 23:34:57 GMT -5
JBL's year long reign. Lots of people in this thread saying Jeff Jarrett had no place as a main eventer (plus a few saying the same about Eric Young), but both of them are more credible world champions than "I was part of a popular (but not very good) tag team, and now I'm suddenly a Ted DiBiase clone" JBL. This is another one that really got me. People were hailing him as this amazing World Champion heel, but I couldn't get past low-to-mid-card Bradshaw all of a sudden being WWE Champion. Dude bored me to tears, and between him being champion on Smackdown and Triple H having a stranglehold on Raw, September 2004 to March 2005 damn near killed my fandom.
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Post by ICBM on Aug 10, 2015 1:03:19 GMT -5
Jerry Lawler AWA/USWA/WCCW champion in 89. I still recognize him as AWA champion. He wore the belt everytime I saw him on TV. Dude Kerry should have gone over and that whole thing would have worked. You can have a screw job rematch where Lawler wins and refuses a rematch. Then do the Kerry build vs every heal in CWA, AWA, WCCW and grab some departing JCP guys for him to beat. I watched during this time and feel the same way. Lawler would have been great tearing his way through eric Embry and Billy Joe Travis/Chris Adams on his way to Kerry. Hers a little ICBM trivia, the superclash III match for the light heavyweight title was the first time I had ever seen Jeff Jarret. He and Embry put on a good match and I remember thinking "wow I bet that guy is gonna be somebody". I did not know he'd get pushed to the moon over people with charisma (hey look I respect him but his IC reign in 98-99 was unending). My friends and I used to say he should have a fireman'so gimmick bc nobody killed heat more effectively during the MWN
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Aug 10, 2015 1:09:48 GMT -5
I watched during this time and feel the same way. Lawler would have been great tearing his way through eric Embry and Billy Joe Travis/Chris Adams on his way to Kerry. Hers a little ICBM trivia, the superclash III match for the light heavyweight title was the first time I had ever seen Jeff Jarret. He and Embry put on a good match and I remember thinking "wow I bet that guy is gonna be somebody". I did not know he'd get pushed to the moon over people with charisma (hey look I respect him but his IC reign in 98-99 was unending). My friends and I used to say he should have a fireman'so gimmick bc nobody killed heat more effectively during the MWN Then his unending US title reign in WCW that turned into the Russoriffic World title reign(s)
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Aug 10, 2015 1:17:47 GMT -5
Hogan's 1994-95 and 1996-97 WCW title reigns. At first it was cool, but even at 9, I was tired of it and the Dungeon of Doom feud was just the worst.
Then, after beating Giant for the title at Hog Wild, and never losing it (especially the bait-and-switch at Starrcade 1996 with Piper) until Luger beat him on a Nitro...then to get it back. Granted, this was leading to Sting kicking Hogan's ass at Starrcade 1997, but that didn't happen.
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Post by theshockmaster on Aug 10, 2015 4:09:54 GMT -5
Eddie Kingston in Chikara.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Aug 10, 2015 4:39:20 GMT -5
Goddamn is he the definition of a midcarder cosplaying as a main eventer. No, that is HHH. Nope Triple H deserved to main event. I hated his reign of terror and he was on top too long but from 1999-01 he was fantastic and was the top heel in the company.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 10, 2015 5:21:56 GMT -5
Prince Iaukea as TV champ was mentioned, but I want to point to The Artist Formerly Known As Prince Iaukea as Cruiserweight Champion in 2000.
The dude was so damn uninteresting even when gimmicked up, and felt like he was in slow motion compared to the luchadores that could have been featured instead. Of course, that time period of WCW was only notable for being completely uninteresting.
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Post by saneiac on Aug 10, 2015 13:35:35 GMT -5
Prince Iaukea as TV champ was mentioned, but I want to point to The Artist Formerly Known As Prince Iaukea as Cruiserweight Champion in 2000. The dude was so damn uninteresting even when gimmicked up, and felt like he was in slow motion compared to the luchadores that could have been featured instead. Of course, that time period of WCW was only notable for being completely uninteresting. Evan Karagias is in the same category. His reign wasn't long, just shy of one month, but he was outclassed by every other cruiserweight on the roster.
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Post by evilone on Aug 10, 2015 14:38:00 GMT -5
Stunnin' Steve Austin holding a US championship for almost a year. When they gave him the belt back for the second time I thought not again and then marked out like crazy when Hacksaw squashed him.
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Post by ededdneddy on Aug 10, 2015 16:31:11 GMT -5
Any and all of John Cenas reigns.
Nikki Bellas current reign
Triple H 1999-2001 (Any of his reigns) & The Reign of Terror
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 10, 2015 16:38:59 GMT -5
Pick any Jeff Jarrett main event title reign. Pick any single one. Talk about a dude who should have peaked at the IC/US title level.
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Post by ICBM on Aug 10, 2015 18:03:28 GMT -5
It is comforting to know that the anti-JJ opinion is still around FAN. There was a period of time where it seemed many had felt all was forgiven and he should even get one last run with the TNA belt etc
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