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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 19, 2015 17:23:04 GMT -5
Was ending The Undertaker's 21-0 streak at Wrestlemania 30 the right idea?
If you could go back, would you keep it how it is, or would you change it? Maybe you'd let someone else break it or maybe you'd let Taker keep his streak forever.
For me, I think it's actually more important and significant now that it finally ended.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 19, 2015 17:38:54 GMT -5
Taker should've either kept the streak or lost it to a younger up and coming talent to "make" themIt seems like it was a waste to put it on Lesnar, especially when the apparent plan was to fatten Lesnar up to feed him to Reigns.
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Post by Chiral on Aug 19, 2015 17:39:04 GMT -5
I'm kinda torn. Given just booking afterwards, no way. But given how huuuuge the moment was, and how well it fit into WMXXX making Bryan's win doubtful, you could make a good argument for that too. And Brock was definitely the right guy if it had to end.
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Aug 19, 2015 17:41:39 GMT -5
Was ending The Undertaker's 21-0 streak at Wrestlemania 30 the right idea? If you could go back, would you keep it how it is, or would you change it? Maybe you'd let someone else break it or maybe you'd let Taker keep his streak forever. For me, I think it's actually more important and significant now that it finally ended. I agree, the streak of 21 wins is great, and also a cool number. It means even more now that it's over. Plus, it's not like we like the Undertaker just because he wins, it kind of adds to his character that he lost one time. Twenty one wins, that's pretty much perfect I'd say.
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Aug 19, 2015 17:45:17 GMT -5
It has made the Undertaker character more interesting, in my opinion, now he has something to prove every time he fights someone, rather than just being 'guy who comes back to win a match once a year'.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 17:47:25 GMT -5
Depends how this Lesnar thing works out because surely if it was someone like Reigns who ended the Streak, we wouldn't be seeing Reigns/Lesnar again. If Lesnar stays dominating then yeah it was worth it but if he gets beaten by Taker or some other star who isn't an up-and-coming star, it's useless.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 19, 2015 17:49:44 GMT -5
I think it was the right call.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 19, 2015 17:54:10 GMT -5
It has made the Undertaker character more interesting, in my opinion, now he has something to prove every time he fights someone, rather than just being 'guy who comes back to win a match once a year'. LOL what is your sig about?!
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 19, 2015 17:56:50 GMT -5
Absolutely the right call. With that one win, Brock became the new big bad in WWE, he basically became the new Undertaker. Taker will be lucky to have two or three matches left while they have 3 or 4 years with multiple marches from Brock. Lesnar ending the Streak helped him solidify that "Shit is about to go down" aura that really only Taker had before. And even if Brock doesn't stick around on another deal like the current one, he can still pop up around Mania for stuff like Taker has done for awhile. If played right they have a decade of Final Boss Brock ahead of them thanks to that.
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Aug 19, 2015 17:57:34 GMT -5
It has made the Undertaker character more interesting, in my opinion, now he has something to prove every time he fights someone, rather than just being 'guy who comes back to win a match once a year'. LOL what is your sig about?! I found a presentation about 'describing people' someone made for their English language class (I guess) on some website and that was one of the slides.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 19, 2015 18:01:22 GMT -5
LOL what is your sig about?! I found a presentation about 'describing people' someone made for their English language class (I guess) on some website and that was one of the slides. Well, it's incredible.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 19, 2015 18:04:43 GMT -5
Absolutely the right call. With that one win, Brock became the new big bad in WWE, he basically became the new Undertaker. Taker will be lucky to have two or three matches left while they have 3 or 4 years with multiple marches from Brock. Lesnar ending the Streak helped him solidify that "Shit is about to go down" aura that really only Taker had before. And even if Brock doesn't stick around on another deal like the current one, he can still pop up around Mania for stuff like Taker has done for awhile. If played right they have a decade of Final Boss Brock ahead of them thanks to that. To go with what you said- "If WWE was going to move in the direction of (booking a) Undertaker-Lesnar (match) for SummerSlam, the only way they could do it without ruining the last 18 months of Lesnar’s booking was to set up the match just as they have (by suggesting Taker is a heel). The only missing component is Lesnar winning, again, on Sunday. Brock Lesnar can’t lose this match. I don’t care what angle is in place to give him an excuse, Brock Lesnar, the man you have built up as a beast, the man who has been unpinned in almost two years, he can’t lose to a 50-year-old man at SummerSlam. Not without undoing everything WWE has done to build him up." www.denofgeek.us/random/wwe/248533/wwe-summerslam-2015-why-brock-lesnar-must-beat-the-undertaker
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Post by cageking666 on Aug 19, 2015 18:05:26 GMT -5
I still agree with the video and say Cena should have ended it
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 19, 2015 18:13:43 GMT -5
I still agree with the video and say Cena should have ended it Cena has got black hair.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 18:16:23 GMT -5
The answer to this question ultimately depends on what WWE ends up doing with Lesnar. The ideal time for Lesnar to lose would've been Mania 31 but that ship has sailed. So long as he ends up losing to someone who could benefit from the rub (i.e. not Cena or Taker) it'll end up having been the right move.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 19, 2015 18:27:20 GMT -5
The answer to this question ultimately depends on what WWE ends up doing with Lesnar. The ideal time for Lesnar to lose would've been Mania 31 but that ship has sailed. So long as he ends up losing to someone who could benefit from the rub (i.e. not Cena or Taker) it'll end up having been the right move. If I was booking him, I wouldn't change anything he's done since Mania 30 so far.. Then, I would have him go over Taker on Sunday and end that feud. Come back and face someone like Sheamus or Cesaro at the Rumble 2016 and win, but his opponent looks great. I'd love to see him face Orton at Mania, and win. A brutal Extreme Rules match, perhaps a rematch with Orton. Lesnar beats up a jobber at a Network Live Event. He could do his rematch with Reigns at Summerslam 2016 and Lesnar get's a clean win. Reigns is in better shape at the end of the match though as Lesnar was very nearly beaten. Lesnar is out with a kayfabe injury from Reigns. Lesnar wins the Rumble 2017. Lesnar is beat clean, in a close match, with Reigns at Mania. Reigns is now the top guy with Lesnar's streak aura handed to him. Brock faces new guys he hasn't faced like Bryan, Owens, Ambrose until his last match at Mania the next year. Brock wins most of the matches but loses his final match as well at Mania 2018.
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Post by BrianZane on Aug 19, 2015 18:34:50 GMT -5
I will always maintain that Lesnar was the right guy (or at least in the category of other "right guys") to end the streak. People always said a young up-and-comer should have been the one to beat Undertaker and while that's a nice sentiment to have, the problem with young, unproven guys is that you have no idea how they're going to end up. Everyone wanted CM Punk to win at WM29 but how silly would that have looked since he quit WWE less than a year later? Out of all the people Taker has fought at WM in the last ten years, Orton was the best choice for a "young guy" to do it, but then all the internet got up and said, "Well, I don't want THAT young guy to do it!"
It had to be someone established, someone like Lesnar or Triple H or Shawn Michaels to do it...sure, none of them NEEDED the win, but any one of them would have benefited from being the guy to do it, and it would have been believable.
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Post by The Trashman on Aug 19, 2015 18:39:26 GMT -5
Just seems awful meaningless and they didnt follow up on it in any significant way until now. Lesnar isnt any more over because of it and if they just hadnt had him lose to Cena and HHH he would be undefeated since coming back (which probably would mean more than him beating Taker anyway).
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Post by wallabylikeyou on Aug 19, 2015 18:39:27 GMT -5
I was a person who thought that Undertaker should just be allowed the streak forever, but you can't deny that a) it was an unforgettable moment that made damn near everybody believe again and b) the 'rub' from it was successful as it has essentially made Lesnar unkillable in the eyes of the fans. Breaking the steak made him much more valuable as a special attraction I'd wager.
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Post by Instant Classic on Aug 19, 2015 18:40:16 GMT -5
Hell yeah and Brock was the man to do it!
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