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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 2:00:49 GMT -5
I am trans, and therefore just walking out the door is dangerous for me. but, I also have mental issues. I don't trust myself. I also hate guns. so no, none for me. What's your avatar? Whatever it is interests me. that is Wirt, one of the main characters in Over the Garden Wall.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 2:05:41 GMT -5
What's your avatar? Whatever it is interests me. that is Wirt, one of the main characters in Over the Garden Wall. I thought I recognized the style, I loved Flapjack so I'll be sure to check it out, thanks!
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Post by Dragonfly on Sept 1, 2015 2:14:49 GMT -5
The in-laws are, for lack of a better word, gun people. My father in law alone has three to four dozen, mostly locked up in various safes around the house and garage. He's a hunter and does have a conceal carry permit, but prefers shooting targets over anything living. (He also loves showing off his collection.) My wife has three, all given to her by her father: a pistol, a handgun that takes three different types of ammo (she calls it her "zombie apocalypse gun) and a cowboy movie style six shoot for the 60s. Again, all she does is target practice. I'm not a gun person, so I try to stay clear of them.
And this must be said: every single person in that family is obsessed with safety. While they have their issues - all families do - gun violence is definitely not one of them.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 1, 2015 2:22:24 GMT -5
The gun ownership issue, perhaps most explicit and even controversial in the American context, is one thing. However, the idea of owning a gun for hunting, as mentioned in this thread, is curious as much as it is disconcerting. I imagine that many people who do hunt, period, let alone with firearms, even if they eat the animal, really are not hunting for bare subsistence, as in, they could not live otherwise unless they hunted. It's still a kind of sport hunting, but one that's quite literally more palatable than sport hunting for trophies (say, the lion hunting story recently as an extreme example). I suppose it's easier to sell people on the idea of hunting by saying "but I eat what I bag" rather than saying "I like to kill animals with guns." It's not like hunting a deer with a rifle is exactly a fair relationship, as a deer isn't going to drawn down or stand its ground with a gun in kind, as a human might, in order to defend itself. If you are eating meat an animal has to die full stop. Whether you go to the butcher and buy a steak or go out into the woods and bag a deer. Some animals like Deer will just continually propagate and without hunters they would end up starving themselves to death... especially since a lot of places chased off predators like wolves that fed on the deer and helped keep them in check. Game hunters also tend to do a ton of conservation work.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Sept 1, 2015 2:59:16 GMT -5
Is it actually legal to walk around with a gun in your pocket? I don't know what gun laws are I never desired to own one. I thought having concealed weapons were illegal? Do you have to walk around with a gun holster belt like you're in some old west movie?
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 1, 2015 3:09:21 GMT -5
Is it actually legal to walk around with a gun in your pocket? I don't know what gun laws are I never desired to own one. I thought having concealed weapons were illegal? Do you have to walk around with a gun holster belt like you're in some old west movie? You have to get a specific license for it, and how difficult or possible that is to do depends on the state. Beyond that, I am unsure as to the method you can carry them, businesses may bar people from entering armed, and it also regulates what kind of firearm you can carry with you.
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Post by Display Name on Sept 1, 2015 3:12:28 GMT -5
I've wanted to have one in my room for years, for self defense purposes, since there's some sick f***s in this world...only thing that has held me back is the thought of maybe getting majorly depressed some day and having that around.Not good.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Sept 1, 2015 3:31:32 GMT -5
I've wanted to have one in my room for years, for self defense purposes, since there's some sick f***s in this world...only thing that has held me back is the thought of maybe getting majorly depressed some day and having that around.Not good. If I had one I'd have probably been dead a long time ago. I've had nights where I've passed out with a plastic bag wrapped around my head but lived to wake up.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 1, 2015 3:54:14 GMT -5
Never, ever, ever, ever. You know people say, "Oh, you like sausage, but you don't wanna see it being made?" Yes, that's me, completely. I like every part of fishing but cleaning the fish, I can do it, I know how, but don't wanna, I've done it, hate it.
I can't imagine a single scenario that would ever compel me to own a gun more dangerous than a super soaker.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 4:08:27 GMT -5
No. The topic of ownership, responsibility, licensing and what someone carries is not political in and of itself. If people get into debating the second amendment or the laws surrounding open/concealed carry then it becomes political. The thread is fine, IMO. Every non-American here (and even half of all American's) would disagree. I'm Canadian. Please don't speak for me. I am perfectly fine with letting Americans decide their own gun laws without feeling the need to insert my personal politics Every Raw Is The Same, why do you assume every Inuit huntet gas some sort of relationship with every animal they hunt?
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Sept 1, 2015 4:57:41 GMT -5
I have two knives in my car and sometimes carry another one, guns make me nervous. Carrying a knife is never a good idea. And I ain't being preachy, it's just a fact, you're more likely to go stabbed yourself if someone attacks you and you bring a blade out. If you're really that worried about being attacked and the like, carry something blunt like a baton. Heck, you can even get these things called "Kubatons", which you can attach to your keys, you hold it similarly to a knife, but it's just a heavy, blunt metal club, so you can thwack 'em and "stab" them with it. Supposedly dissuades anyone pretty quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 5:01:36 GMT -5
I have two knives in my car and sometimes carry another one, guns make me nervous. Carrying a knife is never a good idea. And I ain't being preachy, it's just a fact, you're more likely to go stabbed yourself if someone attacks you and you bring a blade out. If you're really that worried about being attacked and the like, carry something blunt like a baton. Heck, you can even get these things called "Kubatons", which you can attach to your keys, you hold it similarly to a knife, but it's just a heavy, blunt metal club, so you can thwack 'em and "stab" them with it. Supposedly dissuades anyone pretty quickly. You're probably right. I dunno, knives are common where I live. My friends had them clipped to their Jeans at school and no one batted an eye. Now granted, this is Texas.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Sept 1, 2015 5:26:28 GMT -5
I think it's awful people in parts of America can carry a concealed gun around with them wherever they go.
If I gave my opinion on the gun culture of America I'd be delving into politics and might end up banned.
Even if I wanted to carry a gun in my country thankfully I wouldn't be allowed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 5:51:41 GMT -5
Carrying a knife is never a good idea. And I ain't being preachy, it's just a fact, you're more likely to go stabbed yourself if someone attacks you and you bring a blade out. If you're really that worried about being attacked and the like, carry something blunt like a baton. Heck, you can even get these things called "Kubatons", which you can attach to your keys, you hold it similarly to a knife, but it's just a heavy, blunt metal club, so you can thwack 'em and "stab" them with it. Supposedly dissuades anyone pretty quickly. You're probably right. I dunno, knives are common where I live. My friends had them clipped to their Jeans at school and no one batted an eye. Now granted, this is Texas. You can have concealed knives at my old high school apparently. that scares me to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 6:13:25 GMT -5
I think it's awful people in parts of America can carry a concealed gun around with them wherever they go. If I gave my opinion on the gun culture of America I'd be delving into politics and might end up banned. You know, I've read that a lot. Evidently people don't read the rules around here but we have a system of warnings, warnings which expire over time. It's rare that we just ban someone over one post and, when we do, it wouldn't be for politics. At most, the post would be edited or deleted. A warning might be given but, no, that person would most likely not be banned.
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Post by fortknox on Sept 1, 2015 6:52:07 GMT -5
Is it actually legal to walk around with a gun in your pocket? I don't know what gun laws are I never desired to own one. I thought having concealed weapons were illegal? Do you have to walk around with a gun holster belt like you're in some old west movie? Like some else said you have to get a license depending on the state, which you need to have on you at all times. You can carry a gun in your pocket but it's best to have it in a holster to keep lint out of it, keep it from moving, and to cover the trigger. You don't have to carry it in a holster but, the smartest and best thing to do is to use a holster.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Sept 1, 2015 6:58:26 GMT -5
I think it's awful people in parts of America can carry a concealed gun around with them wherever they go. If I gave my opinion on the gun culture of America I'd be delving into politics and might end up banned. You know, I've read that a lot. Evidently people don't read the rules around here but we have a system of warnings, warnings which expire over time. It's rare that we just ban someone over one post and, when we do, it wouldn't be for politics. At most, the post would be edited or deleted. A warning might be given but, no, that person would most likely not be banned. I'm not going to lie but I generally don't read forum rules when I join a forum as I normally stay out of trouble and just check them when it comes to something that I'm not sure whether I should or shouldn't post. I'll rephrase that so. What I should have said is that I wont go into the subject of gun politics too much for fear of breaking forum rules and getting a warning.
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Post by Stu on Sept 1, 2015 8:21:09 GMT -5
You know, I've read that a lot. Evidently people don't read the rules around here but we have a system of warnings, warnings which expire over time. It's rare that we just ban someone over one post and, when we do, it wouldn't be for politics. At most, the post would be edited or deleted. A warning might be given but, no, that person would most likely not be banned. I'm not going to lie but I generally don't read forum rules when I join a forum as I normally stay out of trouble and just check them when it comes to something that I'm not sure whether I should or shouldn't post. I'll rephrase that so. What I should have said is that I wont go into the subject of gun politics too much for fear of breaking forum rules and getting a warning. Please read the rules
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 1, 2015 8:32:32 GMT -5
Just wondering, out of the people here who have guns, do you go to a range or get any proper training in how to use it, or do you leave it at "I know how it works, point and shoot"?
Guns are something I'd imagine you'd want the highest possible level of training on how to use.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Sept 1, 2015 8:44:25 GMT -5
I think if you choose to eat meat the most ethical way to do so is to hunt your own meat, or buy from those who hunt. I abhor the way animals are treated when raised for food (while I understand the need for it to feed mmsssive populations)
I own a firearm for protection for two reasons. My work occasionally calls me to be in, alone at off hours in a nsuiness that holds a good amount of money on the premises.
I also have to go into semi vacant or abaandoned buildings. I don't carry a gun on my personahhh other time. Certainly tragedy can strike at any time but I generally feel safe enough in my surroundings there's no need. It spends the majority of its time in a locked safe on the wall.
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