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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Sept 5, 2015 12:31:31 GMT -5
I'm all for Cena varying his moveset, but maybe he should pick stuff that's more size-appropriate for him? Dude his size doesn't need to be flipping & highflying. Do some more technical shit, it's less likely to injure you!
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Post by Gremlin on Sept 5, 2015 13:20:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 13:30:53 GMT -5
I was there, and I was sitting pretty much right around the area the video footage was taken from but slightly to the right. It didn't look like he was hurt at all. It just looked like a botch. Not long after, Cena got put through a table, then Cena put Owens through a table. They both seemed perfectly fine. I've read that the red threw up the X with the arms but if he did I didn't see it. Also, no one in the crowd seemed really shocked/concerned about Cena being hurt, and no was mentioning it in the parking lot or anything. It wasn't until I got home and read online that Cena may be hurt. It could be Cena being Cena and no selling it, but I think it's just some guy in the crowd trying to get hits and start a rumor. I was going to make a joke about nobody talking about it because everyone in the crowd hates him that they could care less if anything did happen Nah, it was a 75% pro, 25% anti Cena crowd. Around here is sort of the border between the north and south, so there are some NY/Philly/Chicago type smirks, but it's mostly "cheer the faces, boo the heels, chant USA" type crowd.
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Post by Ryushinku on Sept 5, 2015 14:24:16 GMT -5
Sounds like he's gonna be fine. No harm, no foul.
Do agree it'd probably be better if he retired that move, though. Just doesn't really need it (or the springboard stunner but we all know that).
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Post by wisdomwizard on Sept 5, 2015 15:01:07 GMT -5
If he's fine I don't see a reason for this thread.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 5, 2015 15:06:17 GMT -5
I don't think Cena needs to stop doing that move. In fact, I think MORE wrestlers need to start pulling "flippy" stuff out of their asses if it means making the fans accept that they can wrestle and know how to work.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Sept 5, 2015 15:10:09 GMT -5
I don't think Cena needs to stop doing that move. In fact, I think MORE wrestlers need to start pulling "flippy" stuff out of their asses if it means making the fans accept that they can wrestle and know how to work. The difference is, there are guys that can do it, and there are guys that can't. Cena falls into the latter category. There are ways to broaden your moveset that don't involve a move that runs a 50/50 chance of paralyzing you because you're too bulky to pull it off. Cena seems like he was fine. This time. Keep doing that move and botching it, though, and the law of averages is gonna catch up to him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 15:18:15 GMT -5
Cena needs to stop with some of these flashy moves he's trying to get over, especially that stupid springboard stunner. Focus on fixing up your STF, John. Tighten that summbitch up! By this time, you'd think Cena would at least consider trying to avoid doing moves a guy his size should avoid, especially if they can't be done correctly. Better stick with a standard moveset than try to do things that can hurt you if the goal is just to impress critics.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 15:30:41 GMT -5
Cena can still have the "lolz we indy fans dudez" credit if he stopped doing all of that "flippy do shit" and just switched to more power moves. He's always been about strength so it's stupid to me to see them say "well Cena's athletic too look at this!" rather than evolving his strength and technical skills.
And another thing, they told Orton years ago that he should stop going to the top rope because it ruins his longevity but now we have Cena always going to the top rope every match and doing all of these ridiculous moves he shouldn't be doing. f***ing stupid.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 5, 2015 15:40:21 GMT -5
Cena can still have the "lolz we indy fans dudez" credit if he stopped doing all of that "flippy do shit" and just switched to more power moves. He's always been about strength so it's stupid to me to see them say "well Cena's athletic too look at this!" rather than evolving his strength and technical skills. And another thing, they told Orton years ago that he should stop going to the top rope because it ruins his longevity but now we have Cena always going to the top rope every match and doing all of these ridiculous moves he shouldn't be doing. f***ing stupid. Like what. Cena is legit freaky strong but doesn't really have the size to be a pure powerhouse. That's why WWE pushes the "Can he lift the Big Show?" stuff. Plus it's kind of awkward and bothersome for Cena were to be putting dudes on his shoulders and doing everything except his finisher. Orton stopped going to the top rope and look what happened. People accuse him of being boring.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 16:11:30 GMT -5
Cena can still have the "lolz we indy fans dudez" credit if he stopped doing all of that "flippy do shit" and just switched to more power moves. He's always been about strength so it's stupid to me to see them say "well Cena's athletic too look at this!" rather than evolving his strength and technical skills. And another thing, they told Orton years ago that he should stop going to the top rope because it ruins his longevity but now we have Cena always going to the top rope every match and doing all of these ridiculous moves he shouldn't be doing. f***ing stupid. Like what. Cena is legit freaky strong but doesn't really have the size to be a pure powerhouse. That's why WWE pushes the "Can he lift the Big Show?" stuff. Plus it's kind of awkward and bothersome for Cena were to be putting dudes on his shoulders and doing everything except his finisher. Orton stopped going to the top rope and look what happened. People accuse him of being boring. There's multiple drivers, suplexes, clotheslines, powerbombs and variations of these moves that Cena can use to prove he can truly get down with the indy crew. He can legit pick 10 and be fine with his arsenal. If Cena can lift up Big Show of all people I'm sure he can do all of these moves to the entire roster and be perfectly ok, let alone do them in a much safer way than what he's tried thus far. They push the "can he lift Big Show" stuff because Show is the largest guy on the roster and Cena lifting him would prove he's arguably the strongest in the company. That's a reinforcement of Cena's strength that should be embellished when he's not lifting up Big Show in matches otherwise to those watching it's as if he doesn't have a particular style. Cena's the strong guy who has 1 additional tool (STF, top rope leg drop, fist drop) for every opponent he needs. They need to show that Cena's the strong guy which is where these other moves come into play otherwise he doesn't fit his box. It's like Kofi Kingston. He's the athletic high-flying guy. If you don't show how he's athletic and high flying then some people don't get he's that way. If Cena doesn't show he's "the strong guy" like they portray then newer fans only know when he's lifting up Big Show. Again, that's where these moves come into play. It's waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy more awkward seeing Cena perform a horrible Springboard Stunner and Yoshi Tonic than it is seeing Cena perform something like an X-Plex.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 5, 2015 18:06:10 GMT -5
Da Meltz, for whatever it's worth, says that 'Cena is okay, or at least right now that's what they believe.'
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Post by Woo on Sept 5, 2015 18:50:38 GMT -5
I don't think Cena needs to stop doing that move. In fact, I think MORE wrestlers need to start pulling "flippy" stuff out of their asses if it means making the fans accept that they can wrestle and know how to work. Cena could convince fans that he can wrestle by learning how to do an STF or learning how to see an injury.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Sept 5, 2015 19:10:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 19:26:32 GMT -5
Cena can still have the "lolz we indy fans dudez" credit if he stopped doing all of that "flippy do shit" and just switched to more power moves. He's always been about strength so it's stupid to me to see them say "well Cena's athletic too look at this!" rather than evolving his strength and technical skills. And another thing, they told Orton years ago that he should stop going to the top rope because it ruins his longevity but now we have Cena always going to the top rope every match and doing all of these ridiculous moves he shouldn't be doing. f***ing stupid. Like what. Cena is legit freaky strong but doesn't really have the size to be a pure powerhouse. That's why WWE pushes the "Can he lift the Big Show?" stuff. Plus it's kind of awkward and bothersome for Cena were to be putting dudes on his shoulders and doing everything except his finisher. Orton stopped going to the top rope and look what happened. People accuse him of being boring. People didn't start accusing Orton of being boring because he stopped doing his flying crossbody. It's more because he regularly goes months or sometimes years at a time with no direction or purpose, he's been around a decade and basically faced everybody there is to face, he almost exclusively speaks in a dull monotone drawl that makes every sentence take three times as long to come out as it would from a normal human being, and if he's not feeling motivated he's prone to half-assing it in the ring.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Sept 5, 2015 20:48:15 GMT -5
Don't try the sunset flip again Don't try the sunset flip again Don't try the sunset flip again
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Post by Chainsaw on Sept 5, 2015 20:54:13 GMT -5
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Sept 6, 2015 1:37:02 GMT -5
If that was say... Neville and Balor doing that the injury risk wouldn't be that bad. Gotta be worse by the heavier Owens and the Surgically repaired Cena doing it though
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Post by RI Richmark on Sept 6, 2015 5:43:09 GMT -5
I don't think Cena needs to stop doing that move. In fact, I think MORE wrestlers need to start pulling "flippy" stuff out of their asses if it means making the fans accept that they can wrestle and know how to work. Yes, I think we all want to see Big Show try to do the Red Arrow.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Sept 6, 2015 5:45:24 GMT -5
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