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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 18:19:34 GMT -5
Reminds me of when Triple H eventually concludes that if Kurt ISN'T trying to bone Steph, he may in fact be gay, and makes some reference to flowers Steph received from Kurt. "Nice flowers, must've come from pansies" or something like that. Later, Kurt kisses Steph and lays out Triple H, telling him that he can ask his wife if he kisses like a pansy. I do not know why I remember this much of it like 17 years later, but I'm sure I'm screwing some of the lines up. I really think the ending to the storyline drove away a huge demographic. The women, 30-45, who liked Days of Our Lives, Friends, and Jerry Springer (yes, it was a weird time). The same audience I would say watches The Real Housewives and Love and Hip Hop shows. That audiences watched because it was like a soap opera. There were weddings, love triangles, pregnancies, miscarriages. Test in 1999 was basically a soap opera star. If we are writing the show like a soap opera, Steph leaves Triple H for Kurt. It's funny, because the same bastard who we hated for getting Steph months earlier is now showing a new side, and this dorky goody two shoes who should get his ass kicked gets the girl. It's just great storytelling. They didn't follow through, and many fans left. I remember my mom and my sisters and even girlfriends at the time loving Steph/HHH/Angle and even Vince/Trish and they hated pro wrestling.They all hated the crappy payoffs the Vince/Trish one ending with Trish slapping Vince turning babyface then being off tv for the better part of 2 months and then ending up with Steve Blackman for a couple weeks then randomly going back heel to be with Big Show was the final straw.
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 3, 2017 19:19:31 GMT -5
you can blame HHH the way the Kurt one ended
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Post by bigalbass86 AKA Smokin Vokoun on Mar 4, 2017 1:05:00 GMT -5
I don't know how it is generally rated, but Slamboree 97 is a damn fine PPV. I hadn't seen much of it before, and overall, top to bottom, its extremely solid, and I found myself marking out at the main event.
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Post by thegame415 on Mar 4, 2017 10:23:05 GMT -5
Man, Uncensored 2000 sucks, even by the dire standards set by Uncensored events past. I actually like 97,98 and even 99. However, the other three years are so abysmal it's tough to remember anything good coming out of it besides "rules...are for fools".
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Post by Dave the Dave on Mar 5, 2017 1:10:02 GMT -5
I don't know how it is generally rated, but Slamboree 97 is a damn fine PPV. I hadn't seen much of it before, and overall, top to bottom, its extremely solid, and I found myself marking out at the main event. I watched this based on this post. The card looks like trash lol. Based on that I bet a lot of people skip it. Gotta say though it was a damn good show.
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Post by bigalbass86 AKA Smokin Vokoun on Mar 5, 2017 1:17:57 GMT -5
I don't know how it is generally rated, but Slamboree 97 is a damn fine PPV. I hadn't seen much of it before, and overall, top to bottom, its extremely solid, and I found myself marking out at the main event. I watched this based on this post. The card looks like trash lol. Based on that I bet a lot of people skip it. Gotta say though it was a damn good show. I think some of the WCW ppvs from 1997 have the same problem. With Spring Stampede 97, Slamboree 97 and The Great American Bash 97, if you pick them out out of context, then the cards do look crappy, since there are no World Title Matches on those shows. Hell there is a 5-6 month period where there were NO World Title defenses on TV I believe. However, these shows really benefit from watching the Nitros that go with them, and you see that they were pretty well built from week to week, and it showed the real rise of Dallas Page as a Main Eventer, Eddie Guerrero's Heel turn and such. There is so much to like from that short period. And those PPVs, while on paper they have shit cards, are pretty solid.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 4:42:27 GMT -5
Did the weasel have a particularly nasty reputation in the US in the 1980s or something?
I knew about Bobby Heenan, of course, but watching those NWA shows from the 1980s I also see Paul Jones regularly being called a weasel by Jimmy Valiant and the fans.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 5, 2017 6:05:44 GMT -5
Kurt Angle had "never had a beer" until the APA shared one with him after he confronted Stone Cold on the post-Invasion RAW. That's alarming. Kurt went off the rails pretty quickly then.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 5, 2017 6:28:44 GMT -5
Did the weasel have a particularly nasty reputation in the US in the 1980s or something? I knew about Bobby Heenan, of course, but watching those NWA shows from the 1980s I also see Paul Jones regularly being called a weasel by Jimmy Valiant and the fans. It's a creature that is often used to conjure up images of underhanded, conniving behavior, sort of like chickens being used with cowardice. Hell, "weasel" is even used as a verb, like "You can't weasel out of this one". Back when they couldn't go too blue with insults, it's kinda like calling someone a snake but without the menace of that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 6:36:40 GMT -5
I understand. Thank you for your help, Mozenrath. It's really fun to see Ray Traylor's early appearances as a jobber on these NWA shows where he looks like the chubby kid you would see in a children's clique from a movie/TV series. The March 22nd, 1986 edition was especially nice where he and a tag team partner faced the Midnight Express and Jim Cornette spent most of the match insulting that "fat tub of goo"...a few months before that "fat tub of goo" would become his bodyguard.
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Post by britishbulldog on Mar 5, 2017 9:01:44 GMT -5
Bret's anti American heel was hands down one of the best heel turns I've ever seen. Dude was on fire.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 5, 2017 16:02:06 GMT -5
Bret's anti American heel was hands down one of the best heel turns I've ever seen. Dude was on fire. For a guy that didn't really like being a heel, it's incredible how damn good he was at it.
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Post by wingedeagle on Mar 6, 2017 2:30:30 GMT -5
It was intentional. Determined to undermine Bischoff and make him look as bad as possible, the new management in WCW set about destroying his contributions.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 6, 2017 18:29:23 GMT -5
Watching Spring Stampede 2000, and wow, once upon a time, Mancow was skinny.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 6, 2017 23:35:20 GMT -5
Jesus, these mid-2000 Nitros are so "shooty".
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Post by Dave the Dave on Mar 9, 2017 15:32:37 GMT -5
I'm at the end of 99 so I'm looking forward to it ^^^^ ugh these shows.
I have learned that Bobby Heenan really likes Lash LeRoux for some reason. It was like Flair, Goldberg then Lash were his favorites
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 9, 2017 18:31:12 GMT -5
Man, remember Kash, the third man in Harlem Heat 2000?
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Post by wingedeagle on Mar 9, 2017 20:35:08 GMT -5
For some reason on the newer PPVs, whoever makes the match graphics likes to use a white filter. I don't know why, but its dumb since it makes the picture look faded instead of colorful.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Mar 9, 2017 20:58:39 GMT -5
If anyone was wondering, Bobby Heenan screaming, "WHAT THE f*** ARE YOU DOING!?" to Pillman at the Clash is absolutely uncensored on the Network.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 21:08:14 GMT -5
Man, remember Kash, the third man in Harlem Heat 2000? I can't stop thinking about him his work in the no limit soldiers was the stuff of legend.
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