JCBaggee
Hank Scorpio
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Post by JCBaggee on Sept 16, 2015 13:31:51 GMT -5
Chickenshit heel who doesn't want to fight, but when he has to he can back it up.
Lazy Champion, I guess?
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chrom
Backup Wench
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Post by chrom on Sept 16, 2015 14:16:18 GMT -5
Incompetent twit who needs ten guys to do even the slightest task and couldn't even beat Funaki one on one.
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Post by joeiscool on Sept 16, 2015 14:20:13 GMT -5
he seems like HHH tbh
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Sept 16, 2015 14:25:39 GMT -5
Incompetent twit who needs ten guys to do even the slightest task and couldn't even beat Funaki one on one. He beat Ambrose one on one, also RVD etc. Though to be fair, he has not beaten Funaki, and he probably could not so I concede on that point.
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Chiral
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Post by Chiral on Sept 16, 2015 14:26:20 GMT -5
Fake laughing enthusiast.
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Bo Rida
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 16, 2015 16:12:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the answers so far. The topic is about his character, but you're just talking about booking and finishes. He can be a good character that he portrays very well, while still being booked terribly. Whether John Stewart saved him or he just lost the match to Cena, either way Rollins is the same character, for example. Wins and losses aren't his character. Wins and losses on paper don't effect his character but the reasons behind them can especially when combined with other factors. The way he used to successfully execute his own plans showed intelligence and competence, two characteristics he hasn't shown a lot of lately. Each success fed his arrogance and led to him being cocky and fearless. Then that stopped and the characteristics of cowardice, paranoia and self-doubt took over but I don't really know why.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 16, 2015 16:15:41 GMT -5
Overall I wish he'd have stayed part of the SHIELD. They were more marketable than Seth as a wimpy champion, which for the most part has been a boring, never-ending shitberg of HHH/Steph glorifying
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Sept 16, 2015 16:17:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the answers so far. The topic is about his character, but you're just talking about booking and finishes. He can be a good character that he portrays very well, while still being booked terribly. Whether John Stewart saved him or he just lost the match to Cena, either way Rollins is the same character, for example. Wins and losses aren't his character. Wins and losses on paper don't effect his character but the reasons behind them can especially when combined with other factors. The way he used to successfully execute his own plans showed intelligence and competence, two characteristics he hasn't shown a lot of lately. Each success fed his arrogance and led to him being cocky and fearless. Then that stopped and the characteristics of cowardice, paranoia and self-doubt took over but I don't really know why. His singles heel push got rolling when Kane won Money in the Bank for him. For me I'd like to see him do more over-the-top villainy like the cinder blocks murder and threatening to murder Edge. I'd like to see more clean-ish wins for him match wise, but I can understand why they're booking him this way for the heat. While connected, I do think his booking and his character are different topics. The booking has often been garbage, him bickering with his step parents and whatnot, but I'm still finding his character as entertaining as ever.
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Post by Starshine on Sept 16, 2015 21:43:44 GMT -5
He's a typical WWE main event heel.
They book them super strong leading into their title run then they suddenly become incompetent chickenshit cowards as soon as they touch the belt.
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Post by Woo on Sept 17, 2015 18:07:13 GMT -5
Why did Stewart help him again?
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 17, 2015 18:16:20 GMT -5
Why did Stewart help him again? To protect Flair's world title record, which Flair almost immediately dismissed as meaningless, so....really no reason at all.
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JCBaggee
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Post by JCBaggee on Sept 17, 2015 18:16:17 GMT -5
Why did Stewart help him again? Stewart couldn't bear the thought of anyone coming close to Ric Flair's record.
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Post by lmagicdancer1 on Sept 17, 2015 20:03:36 GMT -5
seth rollins has had the world title for sixth months. Is the plan for him to eventually beat cm punks title reign?
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Post by Captain & Diet on Sept 17, 2015 20:09:06 GMT -5
He's a chicken shit heel who can turn it on during a match and be downright brutal. He prefers to take the easy way out and have help from the Authority to protect his title. The character is likely a manic depressive egomaniac with narcissistic tendencies.
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Post by RedSmile on Sept 17, 2015 22:08:24 GMT -5
I will give this a shot...
Seth Rollins is one of the most gifted professional wrestlers in the world, and was overshadowed in the Shield by the insanty of Dean Ambrose, and the swag of Roman Reigns. At the time, no one believed in Seth Rollins, or if they did, they thought him to be the weakest member who'd never be a world champion. As a result, Rollins became insecure about his future, and sold out to a guy who slept his way to a world title, the wife he slept with, and then surrounded himself with a bunch of has-beens, and never-wases, all for a fast track to the main event and a world championship.
The truth is, and even though Rollins is a dual champ, Rollins has never needed any of them, but his own insecurities begat necessary loyalties to the Authority which begat more insecurities. So he's this awesome wrestler, who'd be even better, if he weren't trapped by his own mess that he now has to lie in.
That may not be it, but that's kinda how I'd book him.
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Post by Ruthless Pessimism on Sept 17, 2015 23:08:22 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't necessarily see him as the chickenshit heel. At least not quite that far into it...
Seth is a pack hunter. When he was with the Shield, he could be fearless and talk shit because he had the numbers to back him up. And together, they stomped the mess out of everybody, even the top guys in the company. He broke from the Shield and joined the Authority because of the promise of a stronger pack, I mean what's better than being the crown jewel of the group running the company?
But when Seth won the title, suddenly he had something to lose. He had achieved the dream of rising through the indys to become the number one guy in the biggest company in wrestling. And suddenly, it was a long way back down again. So he falls back on the pack to help him (Kane, HHH, Show, J&J, etc) because his biggest fear is losing what he worked so hard to achieve. That fear has overpowered what once made him so impressive. And luck (along with the pack) has helped him stay on top. I think when he drops the title, he's got a chance to develop that character a little further and possibly turn into a bad ass face if he were to turn on the authority because of what he had "become"...
Not quite a chickenshit but not completely removed from it.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 17, 2015 23:17:09 GMT -5
What I would have done is keep the SHIELD together and make Ziggler into the Authority's chosen champion. I think he pulls off the arrogant douche far better than Seth. Corporate Ziggler would have been in his element. It would play off Ziggler's natural arrogance and give him a well defined role to play. They could have still had J/J Security, Korporate Kane, and Big Show, while preserving SHIELD, who people still wanted to cheer for.
If not Ziggler, Orton could have filled the role. He has the history with HHH, is also very good at playing an arrogant shithead and has also been directionless for several years and needed a strong, clearly defined role.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Sept 17, 2015 23:38:44 GMT -5
An insanely talented wrestler whose paranoia and lust for the title has overridden whatever confidence he had in his own abilities to the point that he's become reliant on others (that is, The Authority) to retain his crown.
And part and parcel to this is an exceedingly large ego that prevents him from seeing that he's become a chickenshit.
As badly as he's been booked at times, Seth Rollins is a really compelling character. He's essentially a guy with the talent to be champion, but his lack of real self-confidence and not false bravado has led him down the path of least resistance.
His eventual face turn could end up being a helluva redemption story.
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Post by Woo on Sept 18, 2015 13:13:34 GMT -5
Why did Stewart help him again? To protect Flair's world title record, which Flair almost immediately dismissed as meaningless, so....really no reason at all. Wow. That is just terrible! Doesn't help that Flair has 20 world titles either.
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 18, 2015 13:40:58 GMT -5
You're trying to figure out WWE booking?
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