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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Sept 18, 2015 15:17:47 GMT -5
Yes, he did. I was just joking, brother. I know lol. I just found that whole odd situation to be very awkward and funny. What happened in that 4 way match?
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Post by jason1980s on Sept 18, 2015 16:01:04 GMT -5
As a kid I liked Hercules but during the last year or two, he probably got more time with the company than he should have. He had really run his course by end of the face run. Though Power & Glory did relatively well, they were really two lower tier guys put together (much like New Age Outlaws) b/c there was nothing left for them. The Outlaws were a hit while P & G eventually showed why creative had nothing for them.
As for Virgil, I'm thinking the jersey was given to him by a promoter. I doubt he'd bought it for himself unless something on clearance and I notice sometimes promoters will give a few extras to the wrestler.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Sept 18, 2015 16:55:57 GMT -5
That no selling jobber against the towers- one was sid, can't recall the other's name.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Sept 18, 2015 17:00:19 GMT -5
Warrior no selling the pedigree.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 17:29:50 GMT -5
Early Undertaker didn't sell anything.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 18, 2015 17:42:59 GMT -5
I always loved when people would punch masked Kane, particularly in the first few years, and Kane would do the head-tilt as if to say "Really? That was your plan?" See, that kind of no-selling I love. When you have this giant character whose entire gimmick is being terrifying, it works great. When it's Road Warrior Hawk standing up and casually strolling away after getting nailed with someone's protected finish? Not so much.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 18:35:24 GMT -5
Oh, you wanted videos, sorry. What the hell kind of hockey jersey is he wearing? Probably found it in the subway He doesn't know, but he'll sell it to you autographed for the right price!
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Post by Gremlin on Sept 18, 2015 19:06:43 GMT -5
Clash of Champions XXX. Hogan/Savage vs Sullivan/Butcher. They had Hogan knocked out via sleeper and Macho Man dropped his top rope elbow drop on him and that instantly revived him. www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuqacRuUIdI
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 19, 2015 10:24:15 GMT -5
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Post by Dang! on Sept 20, 2015 23:04:38 GMT -5
I don't think it would be a good idea to attack a legend considering his status back then, especially considering the reason WHY he was doing that job and the fact that Hall and Nash were far away.
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Post by cjh on Sept 20, 2015 23:10:24 GMT -5
I don't think it would be a good idea to attack a legend considering his status back then, especially considering the reason WHY he was doing that job and the fact that Hall and Nash were far away. The curtain call was two months after HHH/Warrior.
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Post by Dang! on Sept 20, 2015 23:20:03 GMT -5
I don't think it would be a good idea to attack a legend considering his status back then, especially considering the reason WHY he was doing that job and the fact that Hall and Nash were far away. The curtain call was two months after HHH/Warrior. Oh, I was almost sure that the match was a punishment because of that.
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Post by Ryushinku on Sept 22, 2015 3:51:58 GMT -5
I cannot even begin to imagine the amount of world-destroying heat Vince would've rained down on Hunter if he'd chosen to legit attack Warrior (on his big return match, too) due to being pissed off about the Pedigree no-sell.
I mean, talk about something that would've fundamentally changed the wrestling landscape as we know it now. Never mind out of the company, Vince would've had Hunter erased from existance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 15:05:29 GMT -5
youtube.com/watch?v=obRe6Qoe-f8Earthquake vs Koji Kitao. Kitao starts completely no selling everything and spends the rest of the match either trying to kick 'Quake or poke him in the eye, before grabbing a mic and shouting "Wrestling is fake". And this was a week after WrestleMania 7, no less, which I'd imagine was a very good payday for him, plus exposure to American audiences. Although given his attitude.....maybe it WASN'T a good payday.
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Post by 魔界5号 on Sept 22, 2015 15:34:28 GMT -5
The curtain call was two months after HHH/Warrior. Oh, I was almost sure that the match was a punishment because of that. Triple H was originally slated to win KOTR that year. His punishment was not winning it.
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Post by tms on Sept 22, 2015 20:02:24 GMT -5
That Sid/Hercules video is such a guilty pleasure.
There's a really funny moment as (noticably out of shape) Herc is walking towards the ring on his way to the match with Sid. Gorilla (who's on commentary with Lord Alfred) mentions that "Herc's leaning a bit to the west!" A few seconds of silence pass and you can clearly hear Lord Alfred trying badly to contain a guffaw. Monsoon almost never buried a face, let alone his physique, so it was funny to hear that coming from him, especially given the context that you have this mythology-inspired heroic character with heroic theme music coming out to answer Sid's challenge.
Also, the way Herc locks his fingers and puts his hands behind his head as he's being powerbombed, as if to say, "Whelp, Grandpa Hercules is gettin' too old for this ish, Imma take a nap right here and now."
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 22, 2015 20:34:09 GMT -5
Oh, I was almost sure that the match was a punishment because of that. Triple H was originally slated to win KOTR that year. His punishment was not winning it. I feel the incident with Marty Garner likely had as much to do with those plans being changed at the curtain call. Garner suffered a serious neck injury when taking the pedigree so I wouldn't be surprised if they were fearing another Marty Janetty/Charles Austin situation where they'd be sued and spend a fair amount of money and effort tied up in a prolonged legal battle. They'd never really punished any of the Kliq for anything, punishing them for hugging at a house show seems like a really strange place to start.
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Post by 魔界5号 on Sept 23, 2015 0:40:30 GMT -5
Triple H was originally slated to win KOTR that year. His punishment was not winning it. I feel the incident with Marty Garner likely had as much to do with those plans being changed at the curtain call. Garner suffered a serious neck injury when taking the pedigree so I wouldn't be surprised if they were fearing another Marty Janetty/Charles Austin situation where they'd be sued and spend a fair amount of money and effort tied up in a prolonged legal battle. They'd never really punished any of the Kliq for anything, punishing them for hugging at a house show seems like a really strange place to start. To be fair, the botch was kind of Garner's fault to begin with. He said himself that he thought it was an underhook suplex. I think his punishment was just being demoted from upper carder to facing jobbers. It was pretty big at the time. This was when it was widely believed by everybody that wrestling was 100% real. When footage of Diesel and The Game, two heels, hugging Razor and Shawn, two faces, leaked, it was huge. Nash and Hall left for WCW and Shawn was WWF Champion at the time. They couldn't punish either of them.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 23, 2015 5:56:58 GMT -5
To be fair, the botch was kind of Garner's fault to begin with. He said himself that he thought it was an underhook suplex. I think his punishment was just being demoted from upper carder to facing jobbers. It was pretty big at the time. This was when it was widely believed by everybody that wrestling was 100% real. When footage of Diesel and The Game, two heels, hugging Razor and Shawn, two faces, leaked, it was huge. Nash and Hall left for WCW and Shawn was WWF Champion at the time. They couldn't punish either of them. And Charles Austin took the Rocker Dropper wrong and it cost them $26.7 million two years earlier so that sting would have been fresh in their minds. The curtain call happened in 1996, the kliq had spent the previous 3 years doing everything together in public, posing for pictures in airports as a group while many of the members were feuding and let's not forget in 1989, Vince came out in public and admitted it was fake as part of a massive lobbying campaign so he didn't have to comply with the rules put in place by state athletic boards, no more physicals for wrestlers, no more licenses for promoters (boy, that did wonders for wrestling) and that message was really driven home throughout the steroid trial era. The 'This is real' ship had sailed a looooong time before the overblown group hug.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Sept 23, 2015 15:20:14 GMT -5
I feel the incident with Marty Garner likely had as much to do with those plans being changed at the curtain call. Garner suffered a serious neck injury when taking the pedigree so I wouldn't be surprised if they were fearing another Marty Janetty/Charles Austin situation where they'd be sued and spend a fair amount of money and effort tied up in a prolonged legal battle. They'd never really punished any of the Kliq for anything, punishing them for hugging at a house show seems like a really strange place to start. To be fair, the botch was kind of Garner's fault to begin with. He said himself that he thought it was an underhook suplex. I think his punishment was just being demoted from upper carder to facing jobbers. It was pretty big at the time. This was when it was widely believed by everybody that wrestling was 100% real. When footage of Diesel and The Game, two heels, hugging Razor and Shawn, two faces, leaked, it was huge. Nash and Hall left for WCW and Shawn was WWF Champion at the time. They couldn't punish either of them. "Widely believed by everybody that wrestling was 100% real"? When did it happen, 1956?
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