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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 18, 2015 8:58:40 GMT -5
For those watching the lower level shows recently, Adam Rose has had his gimmick tweaked YET AGAIN. And by tweaked, I mean completely taken away from him. He is now entering to no music, in plain black trunks, calling himself a "Party Pooper" and shoehorning as many references to the substance as humanly possible into his promos. John Cena looks at him and even he's like "Whoa, ease back on the poopy, son". And then to top it off, he loses to and/or gets his ass kicked by guys that are basically on the same level as him, like Fandango and Zack Ryder.
In my opinion, THIS is as cut-and-dry a possible case of a burial that I've seen in the company for a long time, and I just don't throw that term about for any old reason. THIS is someone looking like a goober or having their credibility destroyed or whatever term you want to use. Now, I'm not sure what he could have done for this to happen to him, but I've read some stories here and there about WWE not being happy with him for trolling fans on Twitter by teasing them with the comeback of Leo Kruger only to essentially go "LOL NOPE, STUPID MARKS", so it's plausible that this might be a punishment.
It's a shame that things just have not worked out for the guy since he joined the main roster, especially given the real life medical situation involving his son that was brought up on the ESPN doco about NXT. His gimmick gets undermined by commentary putting all the focus on the guy in the bunny suit, that ensuing feud gets dragged out for ages with no payoff in terms of anyone being revealed as the guy in the suit, he gets paired up with Cesaro/Kidd but gets left behind when they catch fire as a team, he abandons the Rosebuds for Rosa Mendes only to lose HER when she takes time off for her pregnancy, and now he wanders the arenas of Superstars and Main Event expressing his desire to take metaphorical poops. According to statistics, he's won only SIX matches all year, and none since late June.
None of this is to say that it's all over for Rose, because it never is until he gets his future endeavours... But of all the people on the roster, he's the one who'd have the biggest uphill climb to make at this point.
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Post by Juice on Sept 18, 2015 9:05:48 GMT -5
It actually makes sense. The party animal in heel form becoming a party pooper. Its incredibly logical
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 18, 2015 9:11:04 GMT -5
It actually makes sense. The party animal in heel form becoming a party pooper. Its incredibly logical In a way, yes. But I can't help feeling that this is just Vince getting his LOLs from making someone say poop constantly. Take those out of the picture, and there's pretty much only the match booking to worry about. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 9:13:07 GMT -5
They need his party posse to join him as equally drab, colorless and uninteresting party poopers too.
Imagine the bunny adorning a black polo shirt and having his eyes changed to be constantly half-open and tired, all the women in body-covering burqas (actually, hold on that one...) or the pizza slice guy covered in anchovies & wearing a giant GLUTEN FREE sign.
WWE - always missing the actual clever gold.
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Post by keezy on Sept 18, 2015 9:18:54 GMT -5
He's in better shape now than when he debuted as Rose.
He should be a Rick Rude who hates fun.
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Post by khyledeen on Sept 18, 2015 9:27:51 GMT -5
I'd heard about this gimmick but I don't watch Main Event or Superstars, I saw him on NXT this week, sat down to catch up while I ate: ".... you all took a hot steaming poop on my party" "... I'm here to take a hot steaming poop on yours" -_-
No need for him to mention poop so much, grosses me out, even more with his accent, it puts extra emphasis on the word, it's a shame.
Not saying he should be pushed hard simply because of his son, but he deserves way more than this, WWE shouldn't be punishing him for getting the Kruger stuff on Twitter over, it got over, people clearly want it, try it out, I've never seen it myself, but I imagine Ray has ideas for it, Vince or whoever should hear him out, and let him try it out, if it doesn't work, ok they tried, but they're not even doing that.
I like the guy, good on the mic, decent worker, let him come up with something, it's like Justin Gabriel, really wanted him to succeed in WWE, great looking guy, great worker, I'd have loved to have seen all of his Bunny ideas come to life (listen to his Talk Is Jericho), Adam/Ray/Leo/whoever, deserves more
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Sept 18, 2015 9:34:05 GMT -5
I hate him with the fury of a thousand suns.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Sept 18, 2015 9:34:37 GMT -5
So you're saying that John Cena can spray paint "so is Adam Rose" on JBL's limo?
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Sept 18, 2015 9:55:22 GMT -5
He's done, unfortunately. There's no coming back - not even KRUGAHHHHH could save him. Hopefully he can make some decent cash on the indies in the next few years.
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Sept 18, 2015 10:40:02 GMT -5
All I have to say is, in early 2017, we will hear: "What is Krusher Leon doing in the Imapct Zone?"
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 18, 2015 10:43:44 GMT -5
All I have to say is, in early 2017, we will hear: "What is Krusher Leon doing in the Imapct Zone?" So you're a TNA optimist aye?  I think they could easily "fix" him but that would take effort on their part... which they've never had any inclination to do. |
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Post by fw91 on Sept 18, 2015 12:04:38 GMT -5
geez.... just make him Ray Leppan already
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Post by walterharrow on Sept 18, 2015 12:22:08 GMT -5
Just let him be Leo Kruger again on NXT. They could easily explain it by just having him 'snap' and giving him a split personality
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Sept 18, 2015 12:40:10 GMT -5
I am literally afraid of poop, so that gimmick is a no from me.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Sept 18, 2015 12:43:50 GMT -5
Give this man a suit, stat!
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 18, 2015 12:45:36 GMT -5
I think this gimmick is stupid, but at least they're doing something with him. It's better than others are getting.
Leo Kruger was starting to lose overness. That's why they gave him the Adam Rose gimmick in the first place. Now, granted, they shouldn't have shoved him into irrelevance, but that's because I think even the lower tier should have their own feuds and stories, and Rose sorta had that for a time with the Twitter war and the best of 100 series with Zack Ryder on Main Event and Superstars leading into WM31. I get that people feel bad for him because of the ESPN special, but did anyone ever think that the E:60 documentary is the reason that they even bothered to try to repackage him.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 18, 2015 12:49:02 GMT -5
It's a damn shame. Despite his best efforts with the Rose character, he was never given anything close to a fighting chance by creative.
If nothing else, they should have thrown him and Ryder together as a lower level face tag team.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 18, 2015 12:51:30 GMT -5
I think this gimmick is stupid, but at least they're doing something with him. It's better than others are getting. Leo Kruger was starting to lose overness. That's why they gave him the Adam Rose gimmick in the first place. Now, granted, they shouldn't have shoved him into irrelevance, but that's because I think even the lower tier should have their own feuds and stories, and Rose sorta had that for a time with the Twitter war and the best of 100 series with Zack Ryder on Main Event and Superstars leading into WM31. I get that people feel bad for him because of the ESPN special, but did anyone ever think that the E:60 documentary is the reason that they even bothered to try to repackage him. His debut feud was a really directionless feud with Swagger, who was as over as a lead baloon at the time. From there he did absolutley nothing until his 17 week feud with a dude in a bunny suit, which oh by the way, had no ending |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 18, 2015 12:54:09 GMT -5
I think this gimmick is stupid, but at least they're doing something with him. It's better than others are getting. Leo Kruger was starting to lose overness. That's why they gave him the Adam Rose gimmick in the first place. Now, granted, they shouldn't have shoved him into irrelevance, but that's because I think even the lower tier should have their own feuds and stories, and Rose sorta had that for a time with the Twitter war and the best of 100 series with Zack Ryder on Main Event and Superstars leading into WM31. I get that people feel bad for him because of the ESPN special, but did anyone ever think that the E:60 documentary is the reason that they even bothered to try to repackage him. His debut feud was a really directionless feud with Swagger, who was as over as a lead baloon at the time. From there he did absolutley nothing until his 17 week feud with a dude in a bunny suit, which oh by the way, had no ending This. He came in had a "feud" with Swagger that lasted like 2 shows... then didn't do anything until like November with the bunny stuff |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 18, 2015 13:11:29 GMT -5
I think this gimmick is stupid, but at least they're doing something with him. It's better than others are getting. Leo Kruger was starting to lose overness. That's why they gave him the Adam Rose gimmick in the first place. Now, granted, they shouldn't have shoved him into irrelevance, but that's because I think even the lower tier should have their own feuds and stories, and Rose sorta had that for a time with the Twitter war and the best of 100 series with Zack Ryder on Main Event and Superstars leading into WM31. I get that people feel bad for him because of the ESPN special, but did anyone ever think that the E:60 documentary is the reason that they even bothered to try to repackage him. His debut feud was a really directionless feud with Swagger, who was as over as a lead baloon at the time. From there he did absolutley nothing until his 17 week feud with a dude in a bunny suit, which oh by the way, had no ending Adam Rose was on his way to being the next Santino, the reliable comedy face who wins more often than he loses and always has a spot on TV. They even had Santino "pass the torch" to Rose with the Twisted Tea skit, as lame as it was. And as panned as the Kathie Lee and Hoda segment was, the fact is they thought highly enough of him at the time that they considered him worthy of interacting with the celebrity guests. Now, I was vocal about my dislike of the Bunny storyline, but until that point, Rose was used pretty well for someone they didn't intend to use as a potential main eventer |
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