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Post by wisdomwizard on Sept 21, 2015 22:34:18 GMT -5
The whole show as a whole is stale. Week to week, it never f***ing changes. I'm thankful to you fine folks in this thread for keeping me entertained.
What do you mean specifically by that? There wasn't a long boring promo by Seth or The Authority, it was a brawl between the Wyatts and the Shield. Paige turned heel on new champion Charlotte, Owens is the IC champion, Kane's H.R. jolliness shtick, there was plenty of differences so how was it all the same?!
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Post by LuchaBella on Sept 21, 2015 22:37:06 GMT -5
The whole show as a whole is stale. Week to week, it never f***ing changes. I'm thankful to you fine folks in this thread for keeping me entertained.
What do you mean specifically by that? There wasn't a long boring promo by Seth or The Authority, it was a brawl between the Wyatts and the Shield. Paige turned heel on new champion Charlotte, Owens is the IC champion, Kane's H.R. jolliness shtick, there was plenty of differences so how was it all the same?!
Because there's nothing new. The only exciting thing was Paige turning heel. We see the same fights with the same people, with the same set up, the same crowd shots, the predictable back stage segments and recap segments. There is nothing exciting at all.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Sept 21, 2015 22:38:30 GMT -5
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Post by hbkid718 on Sept 21, 2015 22:38:52 GMT -5
Here are the facts about tonight's Raw
Raw was the 200th Show on TV & Pay-Per-View in WWE & NXT in 2015 The Lucha Dragons & Neville VS The Ascension & Stardust was The Ascension’s 1st opener since Smackdown on August 27, Neville’s 1st opener since Raw on August 3, The Lucha Dragons’ 1st opener since Smackdown on July 16, Stardust’s 1st opener since Raw on March 23, their 3rd re-match, the 1st match to be re-matched from Night of Champions, the 2nd straight month a match from a Pay-Per-View was re-matched on Raw the next night, & Kalisto’s 50th match of 2015, making him the 16th wrestler to compete in 50 matches on TV & Pay-Per-View in WWE & NXT Ryback VS Bo Dallas was Dallas’ 1st match on Raw since losing to Dean Ambrose on July 6 & their 2nd re-match Charlotte VS Brie Bella was Brie’s 1st match on Raw since losing to Charlotte on August 31, their 3rd re-match, & the 100th Non-Title Match of 2015 in WWE & NXT on TV & Pay-Per-View Mark Henry VS Sheamus was Henry’s 1st match on Raw since losing to Rusev on August 17 & their 2nd re-match The Dudley Boyz & Dolph Ziggler VS The New Day & Rusev was the 2nd night in a row that there was 2 6-Man Tag Team Matches Natalya VS Naomi was Natalya’s 1st match since she & Alicia Fox lost to Naomi & Tamina on Smackdown on May 14, her 1st on Raw since a Battle Royal on April 13, Naomi’s 1st match on Raw since a 6-Diva’s Tag on August 10, Naomi’s 1st singles win since defeating Summer Rae on Main Event on June 16, her 1st on Raw since defeating Brie Bella on April 27, their 6th re-match, & the 2nd week in a row Raw had 2 Diva’s Matches Cesaro VS The Big Show was the 2nd week in a row a match from Smackdown was re-matched on the following week’s Raw & their 2nd re-match John Cena VS Seth Rollins was the 19th United States Championship Match of 2015, the 2nd night in a row the US Title was defended, Cena’s 3rd week in a row in the Raw main event, Rollins’ 5th TV main event in a row, the 1st Champion VS Champion Match since Smackdown on September 10, & their 5th re-match
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Post by Greer on Sept 21, 2015 22:44:03 GMT -5
What do you mean specifically by that? There wasn't a long boring promo by Seth or The Authority, it was a brawl between the Wyatts and the Shield. Paige turned heel on new champion Charlotte, Owens is the IC champion, Kane's H.R. jolliness shtick, there was plenty of differences so how was it all the same?!
Because there's nothing new. The only exciting thing was Paige turning heel. We see the same fights with the same people, with the same set up, the same crowd shots, the predictable back stage segments and recap segments. There is nothing exciting at all. Yep. I don't even get when people say RAW was good or bad. They all just feel like one giant blur of sameness. The only time they try is the RAW after Mania. I could watch a RAW from 2011 and a RAW from this year and you would pretty much be watching the same thing with some different faces here and there. The format remains the same.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Sept 21, 2015 22:45:17 GMT -5
What do you mean specifically by that? There wasn't a long boring promo by Seth or The Authority, it was a brawl between the Wyatts and the Shield. Paige turned heel on new champion Charlotte, Owens is the IC champion, Kane's H.R. jolliness shtick, there was plenty of differences so how was it all the same?!
Because there's nothing new. The only exciting thing was Paige turning heel. We see the same fights with the same people, with the same set up, the same crowd shots, the predictable back stage segments and recap segments. There is nothing exciting at all.
The same fights thing I can understand with Stardust and Neville still going at it, not to mention Rusev/Ziggler and Cena/Rollins. But everything in between like I listed WAS different. As for the rest, backstage segments are something they NEED to do to flesh out the angles. I don't mean show everything Hunter and Stephanie are up to, but things like Natalya calling out Paige or the New Day's segement with Edge and Christian plus The Dudleys can result in good character development. The problem is WWE doesn't do them enough. The big problem with the midcard is there being too many bare-bones angles where there's no reason for the feud just "I'm tougher than you!" and that's all.
As for the presentation like the crowd cuts,, that's never going to change with Dunn sitting in the director's chair so if that's a big part of why you don't enjoy RAW I can't offer anything other than to say wait for Hunter to take control, I guess? *shrugs*
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Sept 21, 2015 23:11:34 GMT -5
Rusev Countia, Rusev Confusca
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Sept 21, 2015 23:48:24 GMT -5
The whole show as a whole is stale. Week to week, it never f***ing changes. I'm thankful to you fine folks in this thread for keeping me entertained.
What do you mean specifically by that? There wasn't a long boring promo by Seth or The Authority, it was a brawl between the Wyatts and the Shield. Paige turned heel on new champion Charlotte, Owens is the IC champion, Kane's H.R. jolliness shtick, there was plenty of differences so how was it all the same?!
So the show was basically HR Kane....And Stuff
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Post by Chiral on Sept 22, 2015 1:25:44 GMT -5
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Post by Dang! on Sept 22, 2015 4:01:21 GMT -5
Seriously that ending was very LOLTNA. Now that TNA has become pretty much irrelevant, WWE has taken their place to create as much LOLWWE as possible. They have 56 yo Sting going for the WHC (in 2015!), they had their version of Claire Lynch, they have Team 3D and I don't think that they'll miss out on giving us MMA MIZ. I called it, expect it!
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 22, 2015 4:22:41 GMT -5
Seriously that ending was very LOLTNA. Now that TNA has become pretty much irrelevant, WWE has taken their place to create as much LOLWWE as possible. They have 56 yo Sting going for the WHC (in 2015!), they had their version of Claire Lynch, they have Team 3D and I don't think that they'll miss out on giving us MMA MIZ. I called it, expect it! See, now I'm picturing Miz in vale tudo shorts, gloves, and taped feet with his shades and hijab and I can't stop laughing
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 22, 2015 15:42:35 GMT -5
Now that TNA has become pretty much irrelevant, WWE has taken their place to create as much LOLWWE as possible. They have 56 yo Sting going for the WHC (in 2015!), they had their version of Claire Lynch, they have Team 3D and I don't think that they'll miss out on giving us MMA MIZ. I called it, expect it! See, now I'm picturing Miz in vale tudo shorts, gloves, and taped feet with his shades and hijab and I can't stop laughing I'm laughing as well, from my pants.
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