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Post by auph10imitated on Oct 3, 2015 6:37:40 GMT -5
What was the real story about Heenan leaving his managing role in the summer of 1991? As a kid, I clearly believed the story of him becoming an announcer but as I got older it dawned on me, he announced regardless with his position on PTW, as well as doing other shows. So was he just simply coming off the road, downscaling his role? Or was there something more behind it?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 3, 2015 6:40:03 GMT -5
He had neck issues which were bothering him, so he couldn't bump anymore. Also, he didn't like having to try and talk up other heels while he had his own stable when he was doing commentary and managing at the same time. He decided just being on commentary was easier.
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Post by auph10imitated on Oct 3, 2015 6:53:42 GMT -5
Ah right yeah, I recall hearing about the neck issues now. Makes sense now. Shame he was leaving managing as Flair was coming in, good job Perfect was a good choice for the managing role.
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Post by willywonka666 on Oct 3, 2015 10:07:54 GMT -5
Did he manage Luger? I wasn't really watching at the time, but I thought he accompanied him to the ring a little
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Oct 3, 2015 11:56:26 GMT -5
Did he manage Luger? I wasn't really watching at the time, but I thought he accompanied him to the ring a little He did the unveiling and verbal fellatio at Royal Rumble, but other than that, I don't think so. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 3, 2015 16:34:45 GMT -5
He quit to become a broadcast journalist.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 3, 2015 21:21:06 GMT -5
Did he manage Luger? I wasn't really watching at the time, but I thought he accompanied him to the ring a little He managed Flair for like ten days. He famously told him something like, "I hate you. I hope all your hair falls out and comes back red". Heenan didn't want to do it, was pushed into it and then couldn't keep up with Flair's night life, so he he finally refused to manage Flair and just became a broadcast journalist. |
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Post by molson5 on Oct 3, 2015 22:50:31 GMT -5
Meltzer talked about this not too long ago. Heenan's neck was so bad by this point he couldn't even do his regular non-bump stuff at ringside. When someone hit a big move on one of clients, he used to violently swing his own head back as if he felt the pain himself. He couldn't do that anymore, he basically could only stand there. He didn't like managing in that limited capacity.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Oct 4, 2015 6:09:04 GMT -5
I never got why he just gives Perfect to Coach, then basically abandons The Barbarian and Haku, he should have at least given them to Fuji
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Post by The Sam on Oct 4, 2015 8:58:51 GMT -5
He also had problems with Rick Rude. Rude didn't want Heenan as a manager as he felt Heenan was stealing his heat ("weasel" chants, selling on the outside, etc). So Heenan stopped doing that stuff.
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Post by jason1980s on Oct 4, 2015 10:11:29 GMT -5
Might be a good thing that he did transition to the broadcast booth when he did. Barbarian and Haku, though favorites of mine, were really going nowhere and Mr. Perfect wasn't too far from leaving the ring for a year. If he had managed Flair from the ring, it probably wouldn't be nearly as remembered as his broadcasts during the matches.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Oct 4, 2015 11:33:44 GMT -5
I never got why he just gives Perfect to Coach, then basically abandons The Barbarian and Haku, he should have at least given sold them to Fuji Fixed for Heenan isn't just gonna give away a pair of commodities....Uh I mean clients when he can make a quick buck by selling their contracts! |
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 5, 2015 1:03:35 GMT -5
had Heenan stuck to managing he would have gotten Flair and probably The Beverly Brothers. I could see him getting Shawn Michaels later on as well since he always put him over on commentary.
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Post by auph10imitated on Oct 5, 2015 3:50:18 GMT -5
I think Haku and Barbarian would have suited Fuji pretty well, but I am sure Haku dissapaered early summer anyways and returned randomly for the 1992 Rumble before dissapearing again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 13:20:32 GMT -5
Barbarian had already with Fuji, so I guess they didn't want to revisit the past. Also Fuji had Berserker, so perhaps his fuzzy boot quota was fulfilled? (That was going more serious until I realized the boots and then I just couldn't resist  ) Fun factoid 1: Barbarian's last televised match was the 92 Rumble too; I'd thought he lasted a bit longer on TV. Worked house shows, subbing for DiBiase toward the end, including Dino Bravo's retirement match the night after that Rumble. Fun factoid 2: Haku's last notable match in 1991 was a MSG show with Barbarian vs. Kato and Fuji, which I think has made the rounds online over the years. A couple house shows in the States later and he went overseas to work joint WWF/Super World of Sports shows in Japan. He became a tag champ there, and even went back to going by "King Haku." After returning stateside for the Rumble match (an incredibly brief comeback, for a guy who'd been working in Japan - keep him in for 10 minutes of so, at least, not just 2), he worked solely over there for the rest of his WWF tenure. One of his last shows associated with the company was winning a handicap match overseas against the Beverlys, and his last WWE match for the era was in May there against the Undertaker. |
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Post by willywonka666 on Oct 5, 2015 17:26:39 GMT -5
had Heenan stuck to managing he would have gotten Flair and probably The Beverly Brothers. I could see him getting Shawn Michaels later on as well since he always put him over on commentary. Now I thought he did manage the Beverly Brothers-but again I barely watched at that time but I seem to remember he had something to do with them |
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Post by jason1980s on Oct 5, 2015 18:23:40 GMT -5
I would imagine another reason why Bobby no longer managed was because Jesse had left a year earlier. Bobby and Gorilla were a proven team for many years on Prime Time. With others, Vince perhaps couldn't take care of backstage business and do the PPV commentary at the same time and though Piper was a great mic guy, that may not have translated well in the broadcast booth.
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Post by Old Baby on Oct 5, 2015 19:52:58 GMT -5
Somebody needs to pay Bobby's old gopher, Woodrow, for a shoot so we can get the facts on this.
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Post by auph10imitated on Oct 6, 2015 10:54:06 GMT -5
The Undertaker vs King Haku match was in September 1992 I believe and not May. That was his last official WWF/SWS match. I know he had run his course and thats probably why he was sent to Japan, but with a fair few new faces on the roster in 1992 they could have gotten some fresh matches out of him. Haku vs Crush, Haku vs Tatanka, Haku vs Undertaker etc.
Also, had he not already joined WCW in 1994 - Haku would have been a much better fit for Samu's replacement in The Headshrinkers than The Barbarian.
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