LuchaBella
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Post by LuchaBella on Oct 14, 2015 2:22:42 GMT -5
If need be, just have the spirit of Sister Abigail possess someone. It wouldn't be the most ludicrous thing on a show where we have brothers with mystical lightning and fire summoning powers, a little people world in the same place where they keep the tables and a roster of extraordinarily talented athletes who are apparently shit because they can't win every single time and their boss yells at them. I guess depending on when she is to have passed on, she could always just be taken as her reborn, then you don't have to get quite as supernatural about it as with a possession. Just need a young diva, and WWE's got their share. I still say swerve and its Bayley. She's got a following, so she knows how to get the crowd going just like brother Bray. Its a missed opportunity.
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Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 14, 2015 2:32:32 GMT -5
The thing is 85% of that roster can work so in regards to the ringwork it shouldn't be as "samey" as it as. With all these people i'm pretty sure people have come up with good ways to change up the in ring pace without every match ending in a finisher.
In regards to story, there isn't much to say about that. WWE main roster TV is week to week so what's important to them this week won't be next week. We will get New Day Lay out Cena and Reigns but next week because it doesn't matter or fit the narrative it won't be brought up. Things like that need to be cleaned up as it's the basics of storytelling.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 14, 2015 2:47:34 GMT -5
Predictability is fine if it follows a logical formula.
Like in a film where a hero beats the villain and rescues the girl.
WWE's problem is that they predictably create contrived characters and storylines.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 2:48:38 GMT -5
If need be, just have the spirit of Sister Abigail possess someone. It wouldn't be the most ludicrous thing on a show where we have brothers with mystical lightning and fire summoning powers, a little people world in the same place where they keep the tables and a roster of extraordinarily talented athletes who are apparently shit because they can't win every single time and their boss yells at them. I guess depending on when she is to have passed on, she could always just be taken as her reborn, then you don't have to get quite as supernatural about it as with a possession. Just need a young diva, and WWE's got their share. Bray: "Here's sister Abigail!" *random diva comes out* Ambrose: "Isn't Sister Abigail dead?" Bray: "I never said that." Ambrose: "Yes you did, look here's a video of you saying that." Bray: "You used MS Paint or something." Ambrose: "You can't use MS Paint on...look we HEAR you saying it. You can't draw voices in paint." Bray: "WELL WHATEVER IT IS YOU USE THAT'S WHAT YOU USED!" *throws mic at Ambrose* *Bray leaves* *Bray comes back* Bray: "POOPYPANTS!"
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 14, 2015 5:30:54 GMT -5
If need be, just have the spirit of Sister Abigail possess someone. It wouldn't be the most ludicrous thing on a show where we have brothers with mystical lightning and fire summoning powers, a little people world in the same place where they keep the tables and a roster of extraordinarily talented athletes who are apparently shit because they can't win every single time and their boss yells at them. I guess depending on when she is to have passed on, she could always just be taken as her reborn, then you don't have to get quite as supernatural about it as with a possession. Just need a young diva, and WWE's got their share. I'm just laughing at the idea of WWE deciding to be trolls about it and making NOBODY happy, where Bray does 1 of 2 things. 1) Has Harper start wheeling out a (fake) skeleton in a nun outfit sitting in a wheelchair OR 2) "She" turns out to be Erick Rowan, possessed OR 3) Both. Harper pushes out the "Sister Abagail" Skeleton, which "possesses" Rowan every time he's in the ring.
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 14, 2015 5:40:56 GMT -5
Wrestling has always been predictable to an extent, so while I would love to blame WWE for this, I have to be fair. They didn't invent the "formula". But it hasn't always been 3hrs/wk of the major television program (5hrs/wk if you subject yourself to Smackdown). When it has been (late period WCW) it wasn't well received or particularly successful.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 14, 2015 6:25:38 GMT -5
I guess depending on when she is to have passed on, she could always just be taken as her reborn, then you don't have to get quite as supernatural about it as with a possession. Just need a young diva, and WWE's got their share. I'm just laughing at the idea of WWE deciding to be trolls about it and making NOBODY happy, where Bray does 1 of 2 things. 1) Has Harper start wheeling out a (fake) skeleton in a nun outfit sitting in a wheelchair OR 2) "She" turns out to be Erick Rowan, possessed OR 3) Both. Harper pushes out the "Sister Abagail" Skeleton, which "possesses" Rowan every time he's in the ring. I would love Bray to start bringing out Sister Abigails skeleton. It's the sort of goofiness I like in wrestling.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 14, 2015 9:31:57 GMT -5
I agree. I disagree that a little Russo like booking is a bad thing though. One of my favorite examples of the Attitude era was Mick Foley's first title win. They was such a great damn surprise and gave everyone something to do. Just about everyone that was someone in the Attitude era was involved in that match and it should have been a clusterf*** of epic proportions but it worked.
Hell, wasn't Michael Cole announcing for them at that time while JR was ill? He showed more passion in that match than he has for the last 20 surprise WWE returns combined. Vince needs to remember a little of that Magic and do something like Foley's title win or Taka vs HHH on occasion. Would it kill the business to maybe have had Santino beat del Rio in the Rumble or have someone like a Ryder upset Rollins for one night?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 12:09:48 GMT -5
Eh.
I'd rather have Bayley in The New Day.
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Post by cabbageboy on Oct 14, 2015 14:26:32 GMT -5
I don't have such a problem with a face making a comeback in a singles match with a heel. But I started an entire thread about the woeful state of tag wrestling when it comes to the tedious "face in peril" crap. The Orton/Ambrose vs. New Day match on Raw was a decent change, since the two faces beat the crap out of the heels until their own miscommunication cost them the match. I think Ambrose got worked over at some point but at least they changed it up a bit. It's even a problem in NXT. Witness the last Takeover where Dash and Dawson beat up Balor for an eternity with yawn inducing leg work, when we all knew he'd simply make the tag to Joe at some point. That's the problem with the "face in peril" shtick. Everyone knows the match won't go anywhere until the hot tag occurs. There can be wild tag brawls, faces outsmarting the heels and wrestling circles around them, 50/50 matches where guys tag in and out, etc.
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Post by ilggant on Oct 15, 2015 7:18:08 GMT -5
I guess depending on when she is to have passed on, she could always just be taken as her reborn, then you don't have to get quite as supernatural about it as with a possession. Just need a young diva, and WWE's got their share. I'm just laughing at the idea of WWE deciding to be trolls about it and making NOBODY happy, where Bray does 1 of 2 things. 1) Has Harper start wheeling out a (fake) skeleton in a nun outfit sitting in a wheelchair OR 2) "She" turns out to be Erick Rowan, possessed OR 3) Both. Harper pushes out the "Sister Abagail" Skeleton, which "possesses" Rowan every time he's in the ring. Well if they actually do end up introducing a female as Sister Abigail, I hope she has a beard
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Post by sonofblaine on Oct 15, 2015 8:33:03 GMT -5
Good lord, I just can't watch Reigns/Ambrose/Orton vs. Wyatts matches anymore. It's the visual equivalent of being immune to an illness at this point. I 100% agree. Raw is so... Stale. There's nothing new or fresh anymore outside of The New Day. I love Rollins, hate his story line. And the Wyatt's, why they never actually showed this sister Abigail is beyond me. At this point they should have swerved everyone and made Bayley sister Abigail or some shit. ANYTHING to shake things up. I watch weekly because I hope that things will change or something big will happen, but I'm always disappointed. I like my fanon that Abigail is how a demon/The Devil appeared to Husky Harris, killed him and is now possessing his corpse.
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 15, 2015 9:29:26 GMT -5
I'm just laughing at the idea of WWE deciding to be trolls about it and making NOBODY happy, where Bray does 1 of 2 things. 1) Has Harper start wheeling out a (fake) skeleton in a nun outfit sitting in a wheelchair OR 2) "She" turns out to be Erick Rowan, possessed OR 3) Both. Harper pushes out the "Sister Abagail" Skeleton, which "possesses" Rowan every time he's in the ring. Well if they actually do end up introducing a female as Sister Abigail, I hope she has a beard I'm willing to compromise on a Bearded Skeleton.
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Post by Gremlin on Oct 15, 2015 10:24:26 GMT -5
I guess depending on when she is to have passed on, she could always just be taken as her reborn, then you don't have to get quite as supernatural about it as with a possession. Just need a young diva, and WWE's got their share. 2) "She" turns out to be Erick Rowan, possessed. Only if his Rubik's Cube can be Lemarchand's Box.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 15, 2015 16:00:59 GMT -5
Well if they actually do end up introducing a female as Sister Abigail, I hope she has a beard I'm willing to compromise on a Bearded Skeleton. And just like that my first album has a title.
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 15, 2015 16:06:34 GMT -5
I'm willing to compromise on a Bearded Skeleton. And just like that my first album has a title. I want a credit in the liner notes.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 15, 2015 16:11:40 GMT -5
And just like that my first album has a title. I want a credit in the liner notes. Done.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Oct 16, 2015 2:58:05 GMT -5
I'm just laughing at the idea of WWE deciding to be trolls about it and making NOBODY happy, where Bray does 1 of 2 things. 1) Has Harper start wheeling out a (fake) skeleton in a nun outfit sitting in a wheelchair OR 2) "She" turns out to be Erick Rowan, possessed OR 3) Both. Harper pushes out the "Sister Abagail" Skeleton, which "possesses" Rowan every time he's in the ring. I would love Bray to start bringing out Sister Abigails skeleton. It's the sort of goofiness I like in wrestling. Then, every time it talks, the voice is just clearly Bray speaking in a falsetto voice dubbed over the arena speakers.
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