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Post by Woo on Oct 13, 2015 16:47:45 GMT -5
Okay, when does Vince finally get voted out of his own company? At some point Stephanie has to confront the situation because her dad is essentially destroying her future. The angle where HHH told Vince the board gave him a vote of no confidence seems all too real now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 16:49:57 GMT -5
Okay, when does Vince finally get voted out of his own company? At some point Stephanie has to confront the situation because her dad is essentially destroying her future. In all honesty Stephanie likely doesn't have that much of a grand future with the company in any major way. As much as they push for it and position it that way, shareholders aren't going to be especially confident with trusting two unproven people with no direct experience running the business end like that when Vince is gone. Probably have a lot of power still, certainly, but it's more likely WWE would either be run more by committee or be sold to some bigger business. Plus with how she's been selling shares left and right over the past few years she's probably not in much of a position to try to impose her will on anything and I doubt Vince is just going to listen to suggestions.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 13, 2015 17:28:30 GMT -5
Vince: I want results or I want resignations
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 13, 2015 17:31:42 GMT -5
Vince: I want results or I want resignations Actual quote, or just a guess?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 13, 2015 17:38:04 GMT -5
They must not be concerned considering the dogshit they keep putting out on Mondays.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 13, 2015 17:42:10 GMT -5
Good. Raw was f***ing terrible last night.
The New Day was the only thing remotely interesting.
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Post by thirteen3 on Oct 13, 2015 17:43:41 GMT -5
Vince: I want results or I want resignations Actual quote, or just a guess? I believe Dixie said something similar a few years back.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 17:46:21 GMT -5
I'm the first to say that RAW isn't entertaining to me and I can only really stand to watch half a youtube clip most weeks from their channel, but honestly being 4th behind football and baseball (or, the #1 scripted show - is how I would spin it if I were WWE) isn't actually that bad, provided the show is still making a profit when it comes to ad revenue vs production costs (though I'm sure Vince will find a way to pay the mid-to-lower level stars even less now just or the "honor" of wrestling in WWE).
It is definitely not forward momentum for the company, but it always seems worse compared to when they were dominating cable TV a decade ago.
Again, I do not care for the show at all right now, but its not like the ship is sinking or anything.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 13, 2015 17:51:24 GMT -5
Vince: I want results or I want resignations Actual quote, or just a guess? Something he said before when the ratings was down
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 13, 2015 17:57:21 GMT -5
and dave had this to say
Cable is not doing the numbers it was doing even 5 years ago.
Stuff like Netflix have put a dent into it
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Post by ToyfareMark on Oct 13, 2015 17:59:20 GMT -5
I have no idea what that number means, but They were up against a pretty big MLB game and MNF. It was hardly going to be a break out night. Worst viewership nr. for a non-holiday RAW since 1997 Quote wrestlingnewsworld: This week’s episode of WWE Monday Night Raw did an average viewing audience of 3,284,667 viewers on the USA Network. That’s down an average of (-93,333 viewers) from the week prior. This is the lowest average audience of 2015, a mark WWE continues to set against fall competition. Below is how the show did each hour: Hour one – 3,518,000 viewers Hour two – 3,254,000 viewers Hour three – 3,082,000 viewers Average – 3,284,667 viewers Competition was stiff everywhere. 12,182,000 viewers for Monday Night Football on ESPN and 5,784,000 for the MLB Playoffs on TBS. This says more about baseball's popularity than WWE's. Thats pathetic, especially considering you had the 3 largest markets in the country involved.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 18:00:04 GMT -5
I'm the first to say that RAW isn't entertaining to me and I can only really stand to watch half a youtube clip most weeks from their channel, but honestly being 4th behind football and baseball (or, the #1 scripted show - is how I would spin it if I were WWE) isn't actually that bad, provided the show is still making a profit when it comes to ad revenue vs production costs (though I'm sure Vince will find a way to pay the mid-to-lower level stars even less now just or the "honor" of wrestling in WWE). It is definitely not forward momentum for the company, but it always seems worse compared to when they were dominating cable TV a decade ago. Again, I do not care for the show at all right now, but its not like the ship is sinking or anything. Well, no, they're not in any jeopardy right now or anything, but they've been gradually sliding in ratings for years with the rate that's happening at increasingly badly this year, and more than anything they rely on the money from their TV deal, they already didn't get anywhere near what they wanted last time it was up for renewal (and in the aftermath between it and the initial failure of the network started cutting costs like mad, which they still haven't really stopped doing), and if this trend keeps going the next time it's up for renewal they're either going to be offered a lot less or, even worse, they won't be doing well enough to prop up USA's spot as the #1 network anymore and be seen as potentially expendable.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Oct 13, 2015 18:04:44 GMT -5
Fought a really good MNF game and you had a game where Cubs fans got to enjoy their players beat up on their much hated rival Cardinals.
By the way, next Raw is all they have been setting up for weeks with the people they announced on that show.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 18:06:03 GMT -5
I'm the first to say that RAW isn't entertaining to me and I can only really stand to watch half a youtube clip most weeks from their channel, but honestly being 4th behind football and baseball (or, the #1 scripted show - is how I would spin it if I were WWE) isn't actually that bad, provided the show is still making a profit when it comes to ad revenue vs production costs (though I'm sure Vince will find a way to pay the mid-to-lower level stars even less now just or the "honor" of wrestling in WWE). It is definitely not forward momentum for the company, but it always seems worse compared to when they were dominating cable TV a decade ago. Again, I do not care for the show at all right now, but its not like the ship is sinking or anything. Well, no, they're not in any jeopardy right now or anything, but they've been gradually sliding in ratings for years with the rate that's happening at increasingly badly this year, and more than anything they rely on the money from their TV deal, they already didn't get anywhere near what they wanted last time it was up for renewal (and in the aftermath between it and the initial failure of the network started cutting costs like mad, which they still haven't really stopped doing), and if this trend keeps going the next time it's up for renewal they're either going to be offered a lot less or, even worse, they won't be doing well enough to prop up USA's spot as the #1 network anymore and be seen as potentially expendable. For sure. Like I said, part of that is they went from the BOOM of wrestling being popular to basically a niche product that's desperately trying to hold on to its fanbase as it VERY slowly leaves them for other forms of entertainment. They'll have to cut costs significantly if trends continue and the question USA will eventually have to ask themselves is if wrestling has a significant enough audience to warrant having a 3 hour tv show.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 13, 2015 18:07:54 GMT -5
You'd think that with two times the amount of Kane you'd get twice the amount of ratings, but noppeeeeeeeee.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 18:09:51 GMT -5
They must not be concerned considering the dogshit they keep putting out on Mondays. You say that, but considering how badly they shit themselves when they're making an honest effort (see: Roman Reigns's WrestleMania push), maybe they just don't know what to do...
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Post by freeze Austin on Oct 13, 2015 18:20:13 GMT -5
Okay, when does Vince finally get voted out of his own company? At some point Stephanie has to confront the situation because her dad is essentially destroying her future. She supposedly thinks just like Vince in terms of booking and creative, so I doubt she's going to confront him anytime soon. Triple H probably would, but I imagine he's a bit worried about the backlash he'd get from his wife and the rest of the family. And even if he was able to talk Vince into stepping down, there's no guarantee that Trips would be allowed to do his thing the way a lot of fans would like for him to be able to because it's believed that the shareholders have no faith in him because he doesn't have an MBA and he's never ran a business.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 13, 2015 18:25:19 GMT -5
If Vince would step down the Shareholders would have a heart attack. The stock would be at a all time low
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 13, 2015 18:36:44 GMT -5
If Vince would step down the Shareholders would have a heart attack. The stock would be at a all time low But they're cool with him running viewership into the ground. This is exactly why corporate wrestling sucks.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Oct 13, 2015 18:45:45 GMT -5
They must not be concerned considering the dogshit they keep putting out on Mondays. Vince: Nah nah y'all this is real life.
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