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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Oct 31, 2015 23:12:14 GMT -5
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 31, 2015 23:13:49 GMT -5
It'd be stupid as f***, but I would love it to death if Jar Jar ended up being the supreme mastermind of Star Wars.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 1, 2015 10:00:51 GMT -5
Was Jar Jar giving powers to Palpatine always part of Lucas' masterplan, dating back to the 1970's when he sketched out the backstory?
It would be hilarious if that was the case. Just the idea of this shitty plot sitting on his shelf for decades until he had a chance to film it.
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 1, 2015 10:17:37 GMT -5
I'll believe 100% until the day I die that Jar Jar being the one to bring up the vote creating the Empire was fan service
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Post by Juice on Nov 1, 2015 10:49:41 GMT -5
I liked jar jar
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Post by Stu on Nov 1, 2015 11:20:07 GMT -5
It's certainly a fun read and I would be pleasantly surprised if it turned out to be true. I love the idea of viewers overlooking the real "phantom menace" in the first film.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 1, 2015 11:41:18 GMT -5
My theory is that Qui Gon was a Sith. Palpatine sent him to Naboo as a cover. The plan was always to go to Tatooine and find Anakin. Qui Gon then sacrificed himself to allow the inexperienced Obi Wan to train Anakin badly, so Palpatine could step in as a substitute mentor and BOOM! Darth Vader, the Empire, Imperial Walkers and Scout Troopers.
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 1, 2015 11:49:51 GMT -5
George Lucas, see what you have unleashed?
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Nov 1, 2015 12:09:02 GMT -5
I know it's got more problems than Jar Jar (still a guilty pleasure film for me), but I always felt Phantom Menace would be vastly improved had he instead been cast as a disgraced Gungan warrior prospect who made a living as a petty thief.
I have this rewrite in my head where Jar still provides some comic relief but he's not an out-and-out clown- his accent isn't as forced and he'd also be a serious and capable fighter when called on. His arc would be more about restoring a sense of inner pride and protecting his fellow Gungans, as opposed to "I just want to be useful and not blow up everything I touch".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 15:41:10 GMT -5
It'd be stupid as f***, but I would love it to death if Jar Jar ended up being the supreme mastermind of Star Wars.  |
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 1, 2015 17:25:15 GMT -5
You know, the prequels were lacking their big twist like the original trilogy had. ON the other hand, it'd require Lucas being a much better writer than he has shown to be in the past.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 1, 2015 21:49:01 GMT -5
I used to antagonise Star Wars fans by arguing that Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru were not killed by stormtroopers, but died in a tragic kitchen fire.
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Post by kidglov3s on Nov 1, 2015 21:53:16 GMT -5
I'll believe 100% until the day I die that Jar Jar being the one to bring up the vote creating the Empire was fan service I have always felt that Jar Jar was meant to have a major role in 2/3 and was cut down as much as possible in response to the fan rejection. Now all the clones totally being Boba Fett's dad? That shit's lazy, pandering fan service. |
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Post by nickcave on Nov 1, 2015 22:57:24 GMT -5
I'll believe 100% until the day I die that Jar Jar being the one to bring up the vote creating the Empire was fan service I have always felt that Jar Jar was meant to have a major role in 2/3 and was cut down as much as possible in response to the fan rejection. Now all the clones totally being Boba Fett's dad? That shit's lazy, pandering fan service. The actor who plays Jar Jar has said that Lucas made major rewrites to the next film due to the backlash of Jar Jar so that makes sense. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 2, 2015 11:24:52 GMT -5
Eh my favorite theory is still the Stormtroopers were lousy shots on purpose. Since the main time they are shooting at the Main Characters was on the Deathstar and the Empire letting them escape was a plot point. Earlier in the film they pretty much murder everyone on Leia's ship with no problem... also the blasters stun setting is used for the only time in all 6 movies  |
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 2, 2015 12:41:16 GMT -5
I'm guessing that the stormtroopers sucked in the classic trilogy because they had stopped using mentally conditioned clones and were using ordinary Joes who signed up for the dental plan.
For example, that conversation in Star Wars which goes something like this..
ST 1: "Hey man, do you have any idea what's going on?"
ST 2: "Nah, probably a drill or whatever"
ST 1: "Yeah I thought it might be"
ST 2: "When does your shift end?"
ST 1: "About 1 o'clock"
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 2, 2015 13:31:01 GMT -5
I have always felt that Jar Jar was meant to have a major role in 2/3 and was cut down as much as possible in response to the fan rejection. Now all the clones totally being Boba Fett's dad? That shit's lazy, pandering fan service. The actor who plays Jar Jar has said that Lucas made major rewrites to the next film due to the backlash of Jar Jar so that makes sense. Lucas had a black minstrel, scheming Fu Manchus, and a tight-fisted Jew in Episode 1. I figure someone had to have said to him "Hey, tone that shit down okay?" when he was writing the follow ups. |
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