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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 18, 2015 21:02:28 GMT -5
^ I had thought that Tolkien was trying to show that the brothers embodied the best and worst of what remained in Men. Bravery combined with foolish pride in Boromir, and Willpower combined with foolish honor in Faramir. If that was the case, it's something that was underdeveloped. It's only foolish honour if something bad comes from it, or at the very least he was shown to ultimately be tempted in spite of what he believed of himself. As it is presented in the book, he says he'd never be tempted, isn't, and that's it. The only other character to have that kind of resistance to the ring is Tom Bombadil, who at least has the benefit of being an immensely powerful and ancient being.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 21:07:11 GMT -5
#orclivesmatter. Y'all are reported for being speciest.
Honestly though, I don't go deep on Tolkien, but as I understand the Orc:
-They're dim. Not troll dim, but still sub-human levels of intelligence. -They're kinda primal. -They're not galvanized and duke it out all the time because they're kinda primal.
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 18, 2015 21:09:26 GMT -5
I was thinking the Willpower was resisting the Ring, the foolish honor was how he dealt with his father. And Boromir's foolish pride was thinking he could handle the ring. With twist being each brother was out of his element. Faramir was ideal to handle the Quest, and Boromir was ideal to defend the kingdom and stand up to his father. Basically a double fish-out-of-water subplot.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 18, 2015 21:21:59 GMT -5
I was thinking the Willpower was resisting the Ring, the foolish honor was how he dealt with his father. And Boromir's foolish pride was thinking he could handle the ring. With twist being each brother was out of his element. Faramir was ideal to handle the Quest, and Boromir was ideal to defend the kingdom and stand up to his father. Basically a double fish-out-of-water subplot. That's possible, but the ring suffers as a result. It's the source of ultimate evil, that can corrupt even the most virtuous soul, and here's a guy who isn't even tempted by it to the point of saying he'd not even pick it up if he found it on the ground. Not that many of Peter Jackson's changes were really all that good, but Faramir's arc was perfect - he showed he was the more suitable of the brothers for the quest, heightened the tension between him and his father, and the ring's power wasn't diminished by someone casually dismissing it.
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