Aya Reiko
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Post by Aya Reiko on Nov 25, 2015 4:08:40 GMT -5
The show happening, and then dying, might be what finally kills TNA, since I honestly think a big part of why Dixie has kept it going, as well as her father not making the sale of it, is just to try to sell the reality show of her running the thing. Once that's gone, she doesn't have that vanity project to look forward to and I think she'd lose interest in TNA itself. Part of the problem with reality TV isn't just the fact that you can make something work with any bozo, but the fact that there is usually a formula when it comes to making shows about people in an avenue of business: 1. People who are on the verge of success or climbing the ladder, or... 2. People who were successful, but have fallen by the wayside for various reasons. Dixie didn't accomplish #1, because while TNA had growth early on in its run, Dixie failed to capitalize on it and kept hiring people more concerned with their own agendas or ego preservation than creating a viable alternative to the WWE, and now it went from a mainstream network where everybody but Cable One users (poor bastards) can get to a subnetwork few people heard of to a rebranded network of a network that didn't quite accomplish what you would've expected from something called the TV Guide Channel. And while the downfall of TNA may be amusing to quite a few people, this isn't seeing a pop singer going through rehab or the troubled jock, where the damage ultimately hurt themselves more than it did those around them, which is the case for #2. In TNA's case, Dixie's actions hurt far too many people, far more than it should've, which including not paying and not providing health care (and even complaining at those who try to get assistance), having a salary structure where low end guys needed food stamps and only big names got big checks, letting the promotion do misogynistic angles and demean the Knockouts several times throughout the division's run, and blamed other people for bad decisions. Besides, even if they did find the process interesting, why would they think about it? You're following a woman who, in spite of a degree in marketing, has presented no discernable knowledge or a willingness to build her business the way most budding companies would try to do, and now the company is leeching off of smaller and smaller targets, all in the spin of "promise". Following Don King in his abandoned warehouse of a facility is something, because King had built an empire, but Dixie never got TNA past "niche" status, even when the company was full of big name guys. That said, if it reveals to the world just how dumb she truly is, I'm all for it. You forgot #3 3. People who are successful, but have a hook to keep the viewers tuning in. (aka The Duck Dynasty/Kardashians variant) This also does not apply to Dixie in either way. One, she is not a success, daddy paid for everything and she keeps squandering it all. Two, she has no hook. DD is rednecks, Kardashians is tabloid sleaze. The most Dixie could provide would be a poor-man's Vince McMahon. Nobody would be interested in that (especially with the real thing already on TV).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 4:15:24 GMT -5
Part of the problem with reality TV isn't just the fact that you can make something work with any bozo, but the fact that there is usually a formula when it comes to making shows about people in an avenue of business: 1. People who are on the verge of success or climbing the ladder, or... 2. People who were successful, but have fallen by the wayside for various reasons. Dixie didn't accomplish #1, because while TNA had growth early on in its run, Dixie failed to capitalize on it and kept hiring people more concerned with their own agendas or ego preservation than creating a viable alternative to the WWE, and now it went from a mainstream network where everybody but Cable One users (poor bastards) can get to a subnetwork few people heard of to a rebranded network of a network that didn't quite accomplish what you would've expected from something called the TV Guide Channel. And while the downfall of TNA may be amusing to quite a few people, this isn't seeing a pop singer going through rehab or the troubled jock, where the damage ultimately hurt themselves more than it did those around them, which is the case for #2. In TNA's case, Dixie's actions hurt far too many people, far more than it should've, which including not paying and not providing health care (and even complaining at those who try to get assistance), having a salary structure where low end guys needed food stamps and only big names got big checks, letting the promotion do misogynistic angles and demean the Knockouts several times throughout the division's run, and blamed other people for bad decisions. Besides, even if they did find the process interesting, why would they think about it? You're following a woman who, in spite of a degree in marketing, has presented no discernable knowledge or a willingness to build her business the way most budding companies would try to do, and now the company is leeching off of smaller and smaller targets, all in the spin of "promise". Following Don King in his abandoned warehouse of a facility is something, because King had built an empire, but Dixie never got TNA past "niche" status, even when the company was full of big name guys. That said, if it reveals to the world just how dumb she truly is, I'm all for it. You forgot #3 3. People who are successful, but have a hook to keep the viewers tuning in. (aka The Duck Dynasty/Kardashians variant) This also does not apply to Dixie in either way. One, she is not a success, daddy paid for everything and she keeps squandering it all. Two, she has no hook. DD is rednecks, Kardashians is tabloid sleaze. The most Dixie could provide would be a poor-man's Vince McMahon. Nobody would be interested in that (especially with the real thing already on TV). Oh, I forgot about those, and strangely enough, I would've argued Duck Dynasty as #1 in a way because Willie made a mom & pop company corporate. But I agree with you on that where Dixie doesn't have a hook (or an interesting one at that) for viewers to sink their teeth into. She would be a female Vince McMahon, which doesn't even sound that interesting, and that's that.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 25, 2015 4:50:35 GMT -5
I'd probably watch the hell out of a Vince reality show. Then again, as Foley said, there might be no point, because on-camera, he can't help but play up parts of his personality, which I guess is true of most people, but it does make me feel like we still wouldn't be getting an insight on the guy.
I don't think a Dixie reality show would be a hit, but I think someone said she's shot like 3 pilots, and just keeps returning to the idea, trying to pitch it to networks. Clearly, it's not getting any buyers, but she also is hesitant to let go of the concept. If it did get picked up, and then cancelled, that'd give a final nail in the coffin, and even she would probably have to let the idea go.
I don't know where that'd leave her stake with TNA, because any hope of using it to catapult herself into a brand that she could market would be over and done with. This is the same woman who had an action figure of herself made when she had barely even been on TV yet. She seems to want an identity of her own outside of TNA, but it hasn't really worked out for her so far.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 4:56:14 GMT -5
I think the reality show thing is in its own right Dixie basically giving up on TNA. This is something we only really started to hear about once the writing was on the wall with Spike, and it comes off like her back-up plan to stay (relatively) famous and in the spotlight, to where the only reason TNA is being kept alive is because without it there's nothing about her that'd give such a show a hook.
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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 25, 2015 15:38:34 GMT -5
The problem is, society today tends to reward idiots, so if Dixie gets her own show, and people mock her incessantly, she'd still get rich off of it, because they'd tune in to see her fail. I'd rather she never gain any traction and fade into obscurity.
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Post by r. on Nov 25, 2015 18:19:50 GMT -5
This man is your new TNA champ
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 21:03:36 GMT -5
Don't know how much money they'll have for their POP run because they cancelled their India tour this year, meaning no more events in 2015.
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Post by moondoggie on Nov 26, 2015 1:38:42 GMT -5
This man is your new TNA champ Rusevs less talented european equivalent?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 26, 2015 10:38:11 GMT -5
The thread title should say: "TNA we are popped". They got no funds to kick around shit looking sad out here.
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Post by moondoggie on Nov 27, 2015 21:37:18 GMT -5
Don't know how much money they'll have for their POP run because they cancelled their India tour this year, meaning no more events in 2015. apparently Pop TV isn't paying TNA or something like that so there will be no revenue coming from them
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 21:41:53 GMT -5
Don't know how much money they'll have for their POP run because they cancelled their India tour this year, meaning no more events in 2015. apparently Pop TV isn't paying TNA or something like that so there will be no revenue coming from them That's the kicker; TNA needs money because they'll have to pay out of pocket for these shows, but they don't have an actual source of revenue unless Bob Carter relents and funnels more money. It's amazing how they don't want to go on WGN because they'd take time off, but they already have months of inactivity.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 21:50:09 GMT -5
I think they'll at least for a few months be able to pay POP without issue, because they've had a good four months or so now of barely doing anything of substance - just Bound For Glory and a handful of house shows, otherwise they've basically been sitting paying out nothing while letting the checks from Destination America roll in.
The problem is the question of what happens when that money dries up. Given all the issues they've had with paying people and obvious price-cutting there obviously isn't that much of it coming in, certainly not enough to run all operations on for an extended period of time, and obviously they're not going to make a lot of money off of advertising directly after being kicked off a network because no one is willing to advertise during their show.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 13:38:32 GMT -5
No clue if wrestleinc is a legit source of news or if this is even true as it cites 'sources within TNA', but according to them TNA will be getting paid by Pop instead of buying airtime. Just fwiw. TNA to get paid by Pop?
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Nov 28, 2015 13:42:28 GMT -5
I can't wait till 2017 when they're on Soda! Network.
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Post by "Mr Wonderdick" Dick Dastardly on Nov 28, 2015 13:50:00 GMT -5
I can't wait till 2017 when they're on Soda! Network. Nah. 2017 it'll be on the Crackle Network. It's 2018, it'll be on the Snap Network.
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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 28, 2015 17:52:48 GMT -5
"Sources in TNA".
I'd put more trust in "Someone who's booking a fantasy TNA save in EWR" that I would that source.
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Post by moondoggie on Nov 28, 2015 21:13:45 GMT -5
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Aya Reiko
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Post by Aya Reiko on Nov 29, 2015 1:40:14 GMT -5
It's a "reporting what Dave Meltzer is reporting" article. We'll know sooner or later if the article is genuine. And if true, I'd take Dave's word over everyone elses.
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Post by Dukect on Nov 29, 2015 2:17:36 GMT -5
I want the Dixie Carter reality show to happen so bad. a) you know that it will be terrible and good for riffing and b) it will get cancelled with the quickness and we'll probably get an amazing (drunken) Twitter rant from Dixie about haters and so forth. But then I would have to one day review that said Dixie Carter Reality Show and that makes me sad do you want to make me sad
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Nov 29, 2015 7:50:39 GMT -5
I keep having to reread the title, I keep thinking it reads TNA: We've Got Poop and I just sit here and nod
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