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Post by radiantsilvergun on Dec 11, 2015 0:14:27 GMT -5
The story goes that Cena was supposed to get stretchered out after getting the ass whooping of a lifetime by Brock at ER '12. The time comes at the end and he ends up no selling a bit and saying some vague sympathetic shit on the mic. Brock reportedly gets pissed backstage. Cena's comments at the end go nowhere and the match means nothing in the big picture of things.
Were Cenas comments alluding to him taking time off due to injury, or was it Cena trying build up the Rock/Cena 2 "THEY TOOK MY JAWB" angle? Seems like this little situation had a bit of a ripple effect in watering down Brock at the start, as well as watering down the WM29 rematch quite a bit. Do you think it would've made a difference if he went through with the original plan? Was Cena just being a dick? 1989 Denver Broncos?
All I know is that it was confusing as hell live, and its still confusing now.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 11, 2015 0:15:38 GMT -5
Was suppose to take time off but Vince told him he needed him still on the road
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 11, 2015 0:17:10 GMT -5
Brock can get over himself if he wants to throw a tantrum about that. He's THE most protected man in WWE history, even over Hogan. It didn't harm him in the slightest.
EDIT: That said, if he was upset more about the match having its ending changed and not being told, that's a different matter entirely, but otherwise, waaah.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 11, 2015 0:23:07 GMT -5
I think he was supposed to leave to work on his divorce and then return as a heel but Vince called it off sometime between the end of that PPV and RAW the next day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 0:24:03 GMT -5
Brock can get over himself if he wants to throw a tantrum about that. He's THE most protected man in WWE history, even over Hogan. It didn't harm him in the slightest. It was his first match back though, and he did the job. If that was done witht he thought that it was a Pyrrhic victory and Cena got stretchered out after, I can see why he'd be pissed off. We always say it, he's about the money. Cena cutting a promo instead of doing a stretcher job potentially cuts into Brock's aura, thus his drawing power, thus how much money he makes. |
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 11, 2015 0:45:17 GMT -5
Not telling Brock the plan was wrong. And classic Vince.
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Post by radiantsilvergun on Dec 11, 2015 0:51:09 GMT -5
Not telling Brock the plan was wrong. And classic Vince. You don't think it was Cena going into business for himself? Thats what it came off like. |
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Post by moondoggie on Dec 11, 2015 1:17:02 GMT -5
Not telling Brock the plan was wrong. And classic Vince. You don't think it was Cena going into business for himself? Thats what it came off like. That bitch Cena. Just like Summerslam 2010. F**k you Cena. F**k you to Hell |
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 11, 2015 1:30:03 GMT -5
Not telling Brock the plan was wrong. And classic Vince. You don't think it was Cena going into business for himself? Thats what it came off like. John Cena or not, who the f*** is going to go into business for himself when you're working with Brock Lesnar? |
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Dec 11, 2015 1:47:35 GMT -5
You don't think it was Cena going into business for himself? Thats what it came off like. That bitch Cena. Just like Summerslam 2010. F**k you Cena. F**k you to Hell  |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 11, 2015 2:40:07 GMT -5
Cena no-selling a murder pissed me off so much
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Post by thegame415 on Dec 11, 2015 12:35:28 GMT -5
Cena taking time off and returning at Raw 1000 as a heel made the most sense,
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 11, 2015 15:21:27 GMT -5
Not telling Brock the plan was wrong. And classic Vince. You don't think it was Cena going into business for himself? Thats what it came off like. He's John Cena, but he'd have still been in DEEP shit if he pulled a stunt like that without Vince's approval. At the very least, it would have got out to newz sites, because I don't think the fallout would be subtle backstage. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 15:39:24 GMT -5
I think he was supposed to leave to work on his divorce and then return as a heel but Vince called it off sometime between the end of that PPV and RAW the next day. Was that when he had new gear made and everything? That's what keeps my hope alive for a turn, they've thought about and even taken steps to do it. |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 11, 2015 15:43:12 GMT -5
I think he was supposed to leave to work on his divorce and then return as a heel but Vince called it off sometime between the end of that PPV and RAW the next day. Was that when he had new gear made and everything? That's what keeps my hope alive for a turn, they've thought about and even taken steps to do it. I think so. If I remember right Hero said one year but talked about another and it seemed to point to this time frame. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 15:53:38 GMT -5
Was that when he had new gear made and everything? That's what keeps my hope alive for a turn, they've thought about and even taken steps to do it. I think so. If I remember right Hero said one year but talked about another and it seemed to point to this time frame. I thought Cena talked about it himself, maybe I'm just remembering what Hero said. I went to Mania 28 and rented a car for the drive that had satellite radio, and I caught a wrestling show (Busted Wide Open, maybe?) on there with Cena as a guest. He was heavily denying that he'd ever turn, literally said it would never happen It seemed like he may have been working though, he laid it on real thick. |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 11, 2015 16:03:06 GMT -5
I think so. If I remember right Hero said one year but talked about another and it seemed to point to this time frame. I thought Cena talked about it himself, maybe I'm just remembering what Hero said. I went to Mania 28 and rented a car for the drive that had satellite radio, and I caught a wrestling show (Busted Wide Open, maybe?) on there with Cena as a guest. He was heavily denying that he'd ever turn, literally said it would never happen It seemed like he may have been working though, he laid it on real thick. Digging around he confirmed the story during the Jericho podcast. He was supposed to go heel around the Rock feud, recorded new music, had new gear designed and paid for and then Vince called it off. |
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Post by Crimson on Dec 11, 2015 16:11:03 GMT -5
I thought Cena talked about it himself, maybe I'm just remembering what Hero said. I went to Mania 28 and rented a car for the drive that had satellite radio, and I caught a wrestling show (Busted Wide Open, maybe?) on there with Cena as a guest. He was heavily denying that he'd ever turn, literally said it would never happen It seemed like he may have been working though, he laid it on real thick. Digging around he confirmed the story during the Jericho podcast. He was supposed to go heel around the Rock feud, recorded new music, had new gear designed and paid for and then Vince called it off. You sure it wasn't Cena's nefarious plan to go into business for himself? |
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Post by JCBaggee on Dec 11, 2015 16:31:35 GMT -5
Cena no-selling a murder pissed me off so much John Cena is basically the human version of the gauntlet from Torchwood. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 11, 2015 16:47:13 GMT -5
Brock can get over himself if he wants to throw a tantrum about that. He's THE most protected man in WWE history, even over Hogan. It didn't harm him in the slightest. EDIT: That said, if he was upset more about the match having its ending changed and not being told, that's a different matter entirely, but otherwise, waaah. Except he wasn't that protected in 2012. We complain about Cena's five moves of doom, but he jobbed to Cena in two moves, albeit steel-augmented ones. Brother jobbed in his first match back in eight years, having left on his back in the first place. Saying that, I have heard literally nothing ever about Brock complaining about losing in fake sports. Seeing some of the ridiculous shit they've made him do, I think it's pretty clear that with a pay cheque that size he would quite happily job in 30 seconds to Zack Ryder if WWE asked him to, and sell the shit out of the Rough Ryder along the way. |
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