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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jan 2, 2016 10:46:46 GMT -5
Like, Seth Rollins. These are the guys WWE have hand-chosen to be the new face of the company... yet they are always loathesome pricks yet in real-life the face of the company has always been a goody-two-shoes. Kinda doesn't make sense. Surely the WWE would want a nice guy as the face of the company and not a smug knob like they usually pick.
I want to see a corporate heel who acts like Cena and Hogan ramped up to 1000. Posts selfies of himself doing good deeds "LOL, gave a homeless man a sandwich today because I'm such a good guy. What have you done?", "Another Be a Star Apperance. I make a real difference. What do my haters do? LOL" cuts stereotypical WWE promos full of WWE buzzwords like 'sports entertainer', 'superstar', 'WWE universe' and going all out with it as well as the lamest insults possible. Wrestles every match doing nothing but the WWE 5 moves of doom thing and picking the worst, lamest and easiest to do moves possible for it. Humble-bragging constantly whilst also giving their opponents back-handed compliments and being as patronising as possible.
Just be as utterly obnoxious as possible doing everything most fans complain about whilst never doing anything actually bad and evil.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jan 2, 2016 10:55:23 GMT -5
Yes Bo Dallas for WWE champ
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Post by 魔界5号 on Jan 2, 2016 10:56:24 GMT -5
Yes Bo Dallas for WWE champ This was my first thought lol. This would be a perfect thing for Bo. Even as IC Champ. |
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Jan 2, 2016 10:59:51 GMT -5
Like, Seth Rollins. These are the guys WWE have hand-chosen to be the new face of the company... yet they are always loathesome pricks yet in real-life the face of the company has always been a goody-two-shoes. Kinda doesn't make sense. Surely the WWE would want a nice guy as the face of the company and not a smug knob like they usually pick. I want to see a corporate heel who acts like Cena and Hogan ramped up to 1000. Posts selfies of himself doing good deeds "LOL, gave a homeless man a sandwich today because I'm such a good guy. What have you done?", "Another Be a Star Apperance. I make a real difference. What do my haters do? LOL" cuts stereotypical WWE promos full of WWE buzzwords like 'sports entertainer', 'superstar', 'WWE universe' and going all out with it as well as the lamest insults possible. Wrestles every match doing nothing but the WWE 5 moves of doom thing and picking the worst, lamest and easiest to do moves possible for it. Humble-bragging constantly whilst also giving their opponents back-handed compliments and being as patronising as possible. Just be as utterly obnoxious as possible doing everything most fans complain about whilst never doing anything actually bad and evil. This is exactly what John Cena's heel turn COULD be if it were to ever happen, but it won't. Instead, Bo Dallas got to the main roster and Vince didn't get the joke. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 11:00:25 GMT -5
Favorite Corporate Prick: Shawn Michaels WWF 1998.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 2, 2016 11:13:07 GMT -5
Thing is, Bo Dallas is a fun idea for a gimmick for an overall crappy wrestler. This wouldn't be hard for Cena to do. The underlying theme of Cena's entire career arc is that he really has been the ideal corporate image that Vince wanted to project in 1998, but he had to deal with guys like Austin that he didn't want. Cena really is that empty suit vacant pretty boy "do it for the kids" type Vince always wanted, and as such he's never been very popular with certain groups of fans. That's why any time there's some hint of a Cena vs. Management storyline it falls 100% flat because no one could possibly buy that management isn't behind John Cena.
You want to talk stale? HHH first turned heel and joined the Corporation at WM XV. That was in 1999 and he's still doing some variation on being a corporate heel.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jan 2, 2016 11:23:02 GMT -5
The idea is we don't WANT Seth as the face of the company, he's being shoved down our throats whether we want him or not, and it's only John Cena can save us.
Irony, thy name is WWE.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 2, 2016 14:50:50 GMT -5
Thing is, Bo Dallas is a fun idea for a gimmick for an overall crappy wrestler. This wouldn't be hard for Cena to do. The underlying theme of Cena's entire career arc is that he really has been the ideal corporate image that Vince wanted to project in 1998, but he had to deal with guys like Austin that he didn't want. Cena really is that empty suit vacant pretty boy "do it for the kids" type Vince always wanted, and as such he's never been very popular with certain groups of fans. That's why any time there's some hint of a Cena vs. Management storyline it falls 100% flat because no one could possibly buy that management isn't behind John Cena. You want to talk stale? HHH first turned heel and joined the Corporation at WM XV. That was in 1999 and he's still doing some variation on being a corporate heel. Cena isn't like Austin, but at the same time his character is not someone who will change who he is and let corporate suits tell him how to dress and how to act. John Cena isn't gonna put on a suit unless it's for a talk show or formal event. A possible "Corporate Heel Cena" would look nothing like the John Cena we see on TV now; Mr. McMahon would want him to ditch the jorts and those fruity-ass colors and start looking like a professional, dammit. |
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jan 2, 2016 15:07:16 GMT -5
They did this exact character with Kurt Angle and it was glorious. That's back when they were self aware and were clever enough to be subversive. Now, every babyface has to be a smart ass comedian and every heel has to be smug coward, even when they were formally bad asses (like Sheamus)
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Post by Some Guy on Jan 2, 2016 15:27:04 GMT -5
They did this exact character with Kurt Angle and it was glorious. That's back when they were self aware and were clever enough to be subversive. Now, every babyface has to be a smart ass comedian and every heel has to be smug coward, even when they were formally bad asses (like Sheamus) By the time he became champ, he was a total coward heel man. |
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Post by The Tank on Jan 3, 2016 9:04:23 GMT -5
Because as much as we love to rag on Old Man Vince being out of touch and his cah-raaaazy antics, they know damn well what they're doing right now.
Putting that character on TV would just be a parody of what they're dead-seriously selling John Cena as.
They're not gonna put a character on TV mocking their top guy. And unfortunately, they're not gonna let John Cena BE that character, even though it would probably be incredible.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jan 3, 2016 9:59:00 GMT -5
That would be fantastic, but I would make one small modification: don't have him actually do anything nice and have him just be a "Slacktivist". Have him always using hashtags about awareness for things going around the world and wearing different shirts supporting causes, but then when he's challenged to actually do something to help the world, he doesn't.
Have them be a total poser.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jan 3, 2016 12:46:33 GMT -5
That would be fantastic, but I would make one small modification: don't have him actually do anything nice and have him just be a "Slacktivist". Have him always using hashtags about awareness for things going around the world and wearing different shirts supporting causes, but then when he's challenged to actually do something to help the world, he doesn't. Have them be a total poser. Unfortunately, this is too close to what WWE is as a whole. |
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 3, 2016 13:00:40 GMT -5
The only time a Cena anti-establishment character arc could've and would've worked is when he wasn't the watered down Doctor of Thuganomics.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 3, 2016 13:11:51 GMT -5
It would be a good twist on things and definitely draw immense heat if they could deliver it well, but I don't see it ever actually happening. It's easy for management to distance themselves from the roles they play when they're cartoonishly evil and over the top, but they can't easily do that when they're aping the actual reality of corporate life. Forget having John Cena as a character, you're using WWE's charitable work as a pivot for heel heat when the heiress apparent to the company is making a big show of her own charitable efforts. WWE wants people to use their made up buzzwords nobody bothers with, not have them come off as things people are using only due to corporate suck-up culture. Make your corporate heels into hollow, ironic reflections of actual corporate people, and you're not only on a level of writing that is perhaps out of their depth, but cuts far too close to home and forces them to confront certain discomforts of what they do that it wouldn't ever get past the pitch stage.
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