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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 4:00:37 GMT -5
Just got major LOL's from them not mentioning AJ Styles as a TNA wrestler.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 12, 2016 4:16:06 GMT -5
Read it more as Nakamura vacating the IC Title. His last match will be on January 30th at Korakuen Hall.
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Post by radiantsilvergun on Jan 12, 2016 4:57:10 GMT -5
Nakamura stripped of his IC Title, so he's definitely on his way at the end of the month. Damn, that's kind of silly. They could have just let him drop it to Omega at New Beginnings. Looks like WWE are being douches again
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 12, 2016 7:04:44 GMT -5
Kind of doubt it's a bad blood thing; could simply be that, in case it's his final match, NJPW wants him to go out on top (and there's every chance in the world Nakamura will eventually return to NJPW, even if his WWE stint goes well).
Still, not keen on them not using the chance to put somebody over him before he's gone.
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Post by Vern on Jan 12, 2016 8:39:26 GMT -5
Kind of doubt it's a bad blood thing; could simply be that, in case it's his final match, NJPW wants him to go out on top (and there's every chance in the world Nakamura will eventually return to NJPW, even if his WWE stint goes well). Still, not keen on them not using the chance to put somebody over him before he's gone. I'd agree with your first point if they hadn't set up Omega/Nakamura so well. Why have Omega say he's taking the title from him if they're not going to have the match? That's what's making me think something's changed drastically since then.
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Post by mhamm05 on Jan 12, 2016 9:29:06 GMT -5
Kind of doubt it's a bad blood thing; could simply be that, in case it's his final match, NJPW wants him to go out on top (and there's every chance in the world Nakamura will eventually return to NJPW, even if his WWE stint goes well). Still, not keen on them not using the chance to put somebody over him before he's gone. I'd agree with your first point if they hadn't set up Omega/Nakamura so well. Why have Omega say he's taking the title from him if they're not going to have the match? That's what's making me think something's changed drastically since then. What're you implying exactly? I might just be slow, but, to me, the only reason to have Nakamura drop the title now is to get him in NXT / WWE sooner than end of the month. Do you have another idea?
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Post by Vern on Jan 12, 2016 9:43:50 GMT -5
I'd agree with your first point if they hadn't set up Omega/Nakamura so well. Why have Omega say he's taking the title from him if they're not going to have the match? That's what's making me think something's changed drastically since then. What're you implying exactly? I might just be slow, but, to me, the only reason to have Nakamura drop the title now is to get him in NXT / WWE sooner than end of the month. Do you have another idea? It's not when he drops it, it's that he does drop it before he leaves. Why would they set up Omega wanting to take the title from Nakamura then have Nakamura leave while still champion without having the match? It makes me think that NJPW understood Shinsuke would lose the title to Omega at New Beginning in Feb (and had Omega challenge him), but now Nakamura's leaving at the end of January instead. It's all speculation, but it is the scenario that makes the most sense imo.
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Post by 魔界5号 on Jan 12, 2016 13:39:24 GMT -5
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Jan 12, 2016 13:47:31 GMT -5
What're you implying exactly? I might just be slow, but, to me, the only reason to have Nakamura drop the title now is to get him in NXT / WWE sooner than end of the month. Do you have another idea? It's not when he drops it, it's that he does drop it before he leaves. Why would they set up Omega wanting to take the title from Nakamura then have Nakamura leave while still champion without having the match? It makes me think that NJPW understood Shinsuke would lose the title to Omega at New Beginning in Feb (and had Omega challenge him), but now Nakamura's leaving at the end of January instead. It's all speculation, but it is the scenario that makes the most sense imo. From what I have heard, Nakamura's deal ends Jan. 31, this means that NJPW would be in a similar situation to WWE when Jarrett left since he will be signing with them at that time. Only they were lucky enough to figure it out with time to spare.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Jan 12, 2016 16:05:27 GMT -5
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Post by MrElijah on Jan 12, 2016 16:27:47 GMT -5
HHH: Hey Tama, sign with us, and dammit, Vince will buy Haku 2 trucks!
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Post by alexwrightspackage on Jan 12, 2016 17:11:47 GMT -5
Err...99% chance the rest of the Rumble will be a letdown?
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Post by Vern on Jan 12, 2016 17:27:48 GMT -5
It's not when he drops it, it's that he does drop it before he leaves. Why would they set up Omega wanting to take the title from Nakamura then have Nakamura leave while still champion without having the match? It makes me think that NJPW understood Shinsuke would lose the title to Omega at New Beginning in Feb (and had Omega challenge him), but now Nakamura's leaving at the end of January instead. It's all speculation, but it is the scenario that makes the most sense imo. From what I have heard, Nakamura's deal ends Jan. 31, this means that NJPW would be in a similar situation to WWE when Jarrett left since he will be signing with them at that time. Only they were lucky enough to figure it out with time to spare. But they set up Omega/Nakamura for February AFTER the news broke that Styles/Nakamura/Gallows/Anderson were leaving (after AJ's farewell in fact). They had to have had, at one point but no longer, some assurance that Nakamura would stay on past the end of his contract long enough to drop the belt. Stripping him of it instead reeks of a last ditch option.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Jan 12, 2016 17:40:04 GMT -5
From what I have heard, Nakamura's deal ends Jan. 31, this means that NJPW would be in a similar situation to WWE when Jarrett left since he will be signing with them at that time. Only they were lucky enough to figure it out with time to spare. But they set up Omega/Nakamura for February AFTER the news broke that Styles/Nakamura/Gallows/Anderson were leaving (after AJ's farewell in fact). They had to have had, at one point but no longer, some assurance that Nakamura would stay on past the end of his contract long enough to drop the belt. Stripping him of it instead reeks of a last ditch option. And Jarrett/Chyna was set up long after Jarrett made it known he was leaving. It is not impossible or unheard of to set something up and have the wrong date or assume wrong. Gedo and Jado are human and make mistakes, setting that up, thinking they'd have him when they don't is not an unheard of thing. Going straight to evil WWE is or bad blood is reaching. Shit happens and NJPW is not immune to it.
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Post by Vern on Jan 12, 2016 18:08:20 GMT -5
But they set up Omega/Nakamura for February AFTER the news broke that Styles/Nakamura/Gallows/Anderson were leaving (after AJ's farewell in fact). They had to have had, at one point but no longer, some assurance that Nakamura would stay on past the end of his contract long enough to drop the belt. Stripping him of it instead reeks of a last ditch option. And Jarrett/Chyna was set up long after Jarrett made it known he was leaving. It is not impossible or unheard of to set something up and have the wrong date or assume wrong. Gedo and Jado are human and make mistakes, setting that up, thinking they'd have him when they don't is not an unheard of thing. Going straight to evil WWE is or bad blood is reaching. Shit happens and NJPW is not immune to it. I totally agree, again I was just speculating. I'm making no judgments or anything based on my conclusions, just thinking out loud as to what BTS scenario could have brought us this course of events. That would have been a pretty big mistake on Jado and Gedo's part though... one that I personally don't think they made.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Jan 13, 2016 12:58:02 GMT -5
EXCLUSIVE UPDATE ON HUGE INTERNATIONAL NAME AND WWE by Mike Johnson @ 11:56 AM on 1/13/2016
Japanese star Shinsuke Nakamura, who was stripped earlier this week of the IWGP Intercontinental championship by New Japan Pro Wrestling, will be coming to the United States for several weeks in early February to spend time at the WWE Performance Center, PWInsider.com has exclusively confirmed with a source in Japan.
According to the source, Nakamura will be training at the WWE Performance Center in Winter Park, FL and will also undergo medical testing (I would assume in Pittsburgh, where such testing is usually done) that, if he passes it, would clear Nakamura to sign with WWE.
As PWInsider.com noted last week, Nakamura reached out to WWE about their interest in signing him in early 2015. By the time the company responded, he had already signed a one year deal with NJPW. Nakamura will be finishing up with New Japan later this month.
Nakamura, 35, is considered one of the most charismatic talents in New Japan. He is three time IWGP Heavyweight champion and a five time IWGP Intercontinental champion.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 13, 2016 22:44:51 GMT -5
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 14, 2016 3:16:56 GMT -5
From what I have heard, Nakamura's deal ends Jan. 31, this means that NJPW would be in a similar situation to WWE when Jarrett left since he will be signing with them at that time. Only they were lucky enough to figure it out with time to spare. But they set up Omega/Nakamura for February AFTER the news broke that Styles/Nakamura/Gallows/Anderson were leaving (after AJ's farewell in fact). They had to have had, at one point but no longer, some assurance that Nakamura would stay on past the end of his contract long enough to drop the belt. Stripping him of it instead reeks of a last ditch option. Keep in mind as well for a "title vacating" and to go out on top- the story has turned in recent weeks to "Shinsuke Nakamura's about to take on the world and go to WWE to be a bigger star!" instead. That's usually a big enough deal in the culture that vacating the title (so Nakamura can go to America at the top of his game) is more viable than having him drop the title (and thus be seen as a loser right as he's about to go to America.)
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Post by 543Y2J on Jan 16, 2016 17:12:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 17:30:09 GMT -5
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