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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 28, 2016 14:20:06 GMT -5
Reigns eliminated Sheamus in 2014 not 2015. Sheamus missed 2015 due to injury. Also Reigns should really just have sole possession of the elimination title since Strowman shouldn't be credited for the assisted elimination on Lesnar (even though that's what's listed) as they all came back in when they were already eliminated. Thanks for the correction. Again, I read my stats wrong. That's what happens when you're reading through hundreds of stats. The stuff with The Wyatts is why Kane's elimination count is different because he eliminated Daniel Bryan in 2014 after he was already eliminated and WWE doesn't count it as an official elimination. All of this is subjective and everyone has their own opinions on what counts and doesn't. That's why it's fun. And there will never be a full real list, as everyone decides things different. Another example is WWE.com has Jack Swagger as being eliminated in 29 seconds, but I counted his elimination as 15 seconds, which is what the announcers said. I think .com counts the time from the moment the buzzer sounds, through the wrestler's entrance until they get eliminated. I counted from the minute their music stopped and they got in the ring. Usually every year someone figures out the ring times and releases it to the main wrestling sites which is what I always go by as those are more accurate. WWE.com's ring times have always been inaccurate as I honestly think they just make up and pad times as much as they can get away with depending on who they're pushing. Like for example in 2014 in the first released non WWE.com stats Ambrose was listed as having a slightly higher time then Reigns, but on WWE.com's stats Reigns was listed as having the higher time. Then in 2013 they somehow gave Miz and Sin Cara times of 5 and 3 and a half minutes respectively which isn't possible considering they drew numbers 28 and 29 respectively and were eliminated by #30 entrant Ryback within a minute after he entered the ring. Since the intervals are a minute and half it would mean that Miz was in for more around 4 minutes and Sin Cara was probably only in for a little over 2.
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Post by hbkid718 on Jan 28, 2016 14:29:53 GMT -5
Thanks for the correction. Again, I read my stats wrong. That's what happens when you're reading through hundreds of stats. The stuff with The Wyatts is why Kane's elimination count is different because he eliminated Daniel Bryan in 2014 after he was already eliminated and WWE doesn't count it as an official elimination. All of this is subjective and everyone has their own opinions on what counts and doesn't. That's why it's fun. And there will never be a full real list, as everyone decides things different. Another example is WWE.com has Jack Swagger as being eliminated in 29 seconds, but I counted his elimination as 15 seconds, which is what the announcers said. I think .com counts the time from the moment the buzzer sounds, through the wrestler's entrance until they get eliminated. I counted from the minute their music stopped and they got in the ring. Usually every year someone figures out the ring times and releases it to the main wrestling sites which is what I always go by as those are more accurate. WWE.com's ring times have always been inaccurate as I honestly think they just make up and pad times as much as they can get away with depending on who they're pushing. Like for example in 2014 in the first released non WWE.com stats Ambrose was listed as having a slightly higher time then Reigns, but on WWE.com's stats Reigns was listed as having the higher time. Then in 2013 they somehow gave Miz and Sin Cara times of 5 and 3 and a half minutes respectively which isn't possible considering they drew numbers 28 and 29 respectively and were eliminated by #30 entrant Ryback within a minute after he entered the ring. Since the intervals are a minute and half it would mean that Miz was in for more around 4 minutes and Sin Cara was probably only in for a little over 2. I looked at various sites and most of the times were similar to mine. The way I did it was I watched the Rumble on the Network and looked at the time stamp as a wrestler entered the match and when they were eliminated and that's how I got my times, which I how I think most people do it. But like I said, everything is subjective, so there will never be an "official" list of times.
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Post by MrElijah on Jan 28, 2016 14:32:26 GMT -5
This is the first time since 1998 that a former IWGP World Heavyweight Champion has competed in the Rumble, those 2 were AJ Styles and Brock Lesnar.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 28, 2016 14:42:27 GMT -5
Usually every year someone figures out the ring times and releases it to the main wrestling sites which is what I always go by as those are more accurate. WWE.com's ring times have always been inaccurate as I honestly think they just make up and pad times as much as they can get away with depending on who they're pushing. Like for example in 2014 in the first released non WWE.com stats Ambrose was listed as having a slightly higher time then Reigns, but on WWE.com's stats Reigns was listed as having the higher time. Then in 2013 they somehow gave Miz and Sin Cara times of 5 and 3 and a half minutes respectively which isn't possible considering they drew numbers 28 and 29 respectively and were eliminated by #30 entrant Ryback within a minute after he entered the ring. Since the intervals are a minute and half it would mean that Miz was in for more around 4 minutes and Sin Cara was probably only in for a little over 2. I looked at various sites and most of the times were similar to mine. The way I did it was I watched the Rumble on the Network and looked at the time stamp as a wrestler entered the match and when they were eliminated and that's how I got my times, which I how I think most people do it. But like I said, everything is subjective, so there will never be an "official" list of times. That's a good way to do it. When putting together my Rumble countdown I do every year, I did the same thing when figuring Miz and Sheamus' times since they both got credited for more ring time they should've as the website I was looking at obviously just went by when their buzzer went to when they were eliminated. However the time that were both literally in the ring was much shorter as Miz did commentary for most of his time and Sheamus got knocked out by Reigns in the aisle and didn't enter for probably another minute after the next guy, Triple H, came out.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 28, 2016 14:56:22 GMT -5
WWE always point out that Santino holds the record as the shortest time in the Rumble at one second, so for that to stand they have to count from the moment the entrant hits the ring.
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Post by hbkid718 on Jan 28, 2016 15:23:08 GMT -5
WWE always point out that Santino holds the record as the shortest time in the Rumble at one second, so for that to stand they have to count from the moment the entrant hits the ring. Yeah, that would makes sense, but this year they counted it different. Because Swagger was in the Ring for 15 seconds, but WWE.com has it listed at 29 seconds, which would make it from his entrance to his elimination, not from when he entered the ring.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Jan 28, 2016 18:07:33 GMT -5
Rusev is the 4th person to be the first person eliminated in a rumble and the last person eliminated in another.
Shawn Michaels, Ted Dibiase, and Santino are the others.
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Post by 4real on Jan 28, 2016 18:15:37 GMT -5
Rusev is the 4th person to be the first person eliminated in a rumble and the last person eliminated in another. Shawn Michaels, Ted Dibiase, and Santino are the others. Would Earthquake count? Last in 91 first in 99. Different characters though mind.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 28, 2016 19:10:29 GMT -5
WWE always point out that Santino holds the record as the shortest time in the Rumble at one second, so for that to stand they have to count from the moment the entrant hits the ring. Yeah, that would makes sense, but this year they counted it different. Because Swagger was in the Ring for 15 seconds, but WWE.com has it listed at 29 seconds, which would make it from his entrance to his elimination, not from when he entered the ring. I go by what is said and shown on TV, since that's about as close to "canon" as it gets with WWE.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Jan 28, 2016 20:42:28 GMT -5
Rusev is the 4th person to be the first person eliminated in a rumble and the last person eliminated in another. Shawn Michaels, Ted Dibiase, and Santino are the others. Would Earthquake count? Last in 91 first in 99. Different characters though mind. Ah that's actually a great point. I would count it.
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