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Post by erisi236 on Oct 23, 2006 14:49:35 GMT -5
So I've spent many hours watching the Hellraiser movies, and boy do some of them blow. In some of the later ones it's almost as if the producers just picked horror scripts at random out of a box and said "How can we put Pinhead in this" Pretty sad considering the first flick is a great horror classic.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 23, 2006 14:52:18 GMT -5
yeah Hellraiser is pretty much a "watch the first 2 or 3 and avoid everything else" series. I gotta say Hellraiser 6. I haven't watched 8 yet, but 7 ("Deader") was so lame I decided never to watch another new one. even so, while Hellraiser 7 was bad, it wasn't the incomprehensible mess that is Hellraiser 6.
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Post by Deus Ex Machina on Oct 23, 2006 15:24:51 GMT -5
This is the review I made on here (and transfered to IMDB) on part 6: Hellseeker after my infamous Hellraiser marathon:
"It was all just a dream..., 16 January 2006 1/10 Author: Dan Denholt from Denmark
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
Have you ever seen a movie where something happens and then they cut and "it was all just a dream"? It's a plot device writers use when they've written themselves into a corner and need an easy way out. Now, imagine a movie where this device is used after just about every scene. Sometimes repeatedly. As in "it was all just a dream. Within a dream. Within another dream.". Well, thankfully you never have to imagine such a movie, as it already exists in the form of Hellraiser: Hellseeker. Watching this movie is excruciatingly frustrating as the main character wakes from a dream to find himself in the hospital, only to wake from a dream and find himself at the office, then wake from a dream to find himself at home, just to wake from a dream to find himself at the police station, where he goes over the exact same story he has already told them before. Then repeat. Moving at a narrative speed of moss, we just jump from one of four locations to another, over and over and over and over, with seemingly little in the way of plot or point. Further more, you'd think the star of the movie also wrote it, as every woman his character comes across, throws themselves at him, despite him being a very ordinary looking, dull, office worker. Guess that anonymity really turns the women on, eh? Ashley Laurence is listed second in the credits, but she is hardly in the movie, making very little connection to the originals. But, hey, Pinhead is hardly in this one either, with probably even less screen time than part 5, and like Inferno, it all turns out to be more psycho babble, Twilight Zone, wannabe garbage. Just far more annoying, worse written and without any good ideas at all. An utter atrocity that even the appearance of Doug Bradley can't save. "
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Oct 23, 2006 15:28:46 GMT -5
I've only seen 1-5.
Apparently I should quit.
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Post by erisi236 on Oct 23, 2006 15:31:44 GMT -5
maybe watching the film was just a dream and it doesn't actually exist I love how parts 6-8 are Hellraiser films in name only, now I know that part 1 Pinhead and the Cenobites are not on scene very often but it seems so different in the later films. It's like you're watching some random "Pyschological thriller" and in the middle Pinhead pops up and says "We'll tear your soul apart" and then disappears and you wonder what he's doing in this film. ;D
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Post by Voldemar H. "Brak" Guerta on Oct 23, 2006 15:53:48 GMT -5
Haha, so you were watching the Sci-Fi Channel earlier today too, eh? Hellraiser 6 takes the cheese cake here, that one was god-awful. Hellraiser 4 was pretty bad too. I thought 2 & 3 were pretty good though, I enjoyed the focus being shifted onto the Cenobites after part 1.
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Post by Dr. Marzvon Zombie M.D. on Oct 23, 2006 15:55:17 GMT -5
I wasn't to much in to bloodline, maybe I should give it another chance only watched it once.
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Post by erisi236 on Oct 23, 2006 15:58:11 GMT -5
heh, Bloodline seems like a great flick after watching 6, 7 and 8 ;D
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Post by Dr. Marzvon Zombie M.D. on Oct 23, 2006 15:59:43 GMT -5
heh, Bloodline seems like a great flick after watching 6, 7 and 8 ;D I have not made it that far yet and to be honest had no clue there was anything past bloodline lmao.
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Post by Deus Ex Machina on Oct 23, 2006 16:03:27 GMT -5
maybe watching the film was just a dream and it doesn't actually exist I love how parts 6-8 are Hellraiser films in name only, now I know that part 1 Pinhead and the Cenobites are not on scene very often but it seems so different in the later films. It's like you're watching some random "Pyschological thriller" and in the middle Pinhead pops up and says "We'll tear your soul apart" and then disappears and you wonder what he's doing in this film. ;D In part 5: Inferno, he's a crimesolving Pinhead.
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Post by hank72francis on Oct 23, 2006 16:06:27 GMT -5
Good to see I'm not the only person who was watching the Sci-Fi channel today.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 23, 2006 16:17:47 GMT -5
maybe watching the film was just a dream and it doesn't actually exist I love how parts 6-8 are Hellraiser films in name only, now I know that part 1 Pinhead and the Cenobites are not on scene very often but it seems so different in the later films. It's like you're watching some random "Pyschological thriller" and in the middle Pinhead pops up and says "We'll tear your soul apart" and then disappears and you wonder what he's doing in this film. ;D In part 5: Inferno, he's a crimesolving Pinhead. THAT was his purpose? well at least you figured it out. Inferno was another "WTF this makes no sense" movie.
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Post by erisi236 on Oct 23, 2006 16:19:02 GMT -5
Good to see I'm not the only person who was watching the Sci-Fi channel today. heh, I wish it was all day Hellraiser, even those crappy sequels are better then whatever crap is on right now ;D
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Oct 23, 2006 16:25:18 GMT -5
Bloodline I actually liked quite well, and didn' see why Kevin Yagher, the director, hated it so much that he used the dreaded "Alan Smithee" pseudonym.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Oct 23, 2006 16:38:03 GMT -5
only seen 1- 5 and bloodline is the worst of them for me anyway......
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Post by flea on Oct 23, 2006 16:39:28 GMT -5
hellseeker ate ass
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Post by erisi236 on Oct 23, 2006 17:02:20 GMT -5
In part 5: Inferno, he's a crimesolving Pinhead. "but is Knightboat, the crime solving boat!" ;D
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Post by Jiren on Oct 23, 2006 17:03:13 GMT -5
Post bloodline (not TOO bad) all equally suck donkey balls
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Post by hank72francis on Oct 23, 2006 17:57:07 GMT -5
Hellraiser is an awesome B-franchise but it stands no chance against the new Pumpkinhead thats coming out.
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Post by mysterydriver on Oct 23, 2006 19:04:54 GMT -5
Inferno was the first Hellraiser I ever saw, so without knowing the history of the films (Just a basic "Dude, the guy has pins in his head" type stuff), I thought it was neat. After seeing the others, I know it isn't great, but it was the first one I saw so it is higher on the list than some.
Hellworld had Lance Hendriksen at least.
Deader had Kari Wuhrer. Yippee Flippin' Skippy. UGH! That, plus the stupid cult, is why it gets my vote.
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