Hogan/Warrior WM6

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I guess it all depends on what you look at as a "clean" win, but Hogan technically had the Warrior pinned in the match. This has always bothered me, but I guess it was the only way to give Hogan a relatively clean loss to the Warrior.

Had the Ultimate Warrior's run been a little more successful, what do you think the result of their match at Wrestlemania VII been? My assumption is that Hogan would've gotten it back and they would have had the rubber match at Wrestlemania VIII with two legit superstars leading the way (Hogan and Warrior). It would've made the passing of the torch a lot more gradual and would've allowed more time for guys like Macho and Flair to be involved in some serious programs with both guys (not to mention Sid, Slaughter, Taker, etc.)

[willyjakes]

fwiw I don't think they would've stretched Hogan/Warrior to Wrestlemania 8, but a Wrestlemania 7 rematch should've definitely happened. A 100,000 seat stadium was a little too ambitious though.

Hogan would've gotten his win back at WM 7, and that would've been it. No further feuding between them.

[celtics543]

Maybe stretch it out to Wrestlemania 7 if you really want to put Warrior over. Have the rematch at Summerslam and then the rubber match at Wrestlemania, putting Warrior completely over as the man.

[HMARK Center]

I know some folks have looked back at Hogan/Warrior and disliked things like Hogan having the visible pin on Warrior, or Hogan making the show of handing Warrior the belt and what have you, but I always thought it worked decently given the story of the match, that both men were just so evenly matched that it would take a slip up by one of them to bring about the end (in this case, Hogan missing his final leg drop attempt). 1990 Hogan hadn't overstayed his welcome yet, so I never found it all too objectionable.

I DO think that where he started going off the rails in his WWF run was the Earthquake feud; yeah, Quake looked like a legitimate threat, but Hogan wound up beating him too much. Besides, Quake probably should've at least had a program with then-champ Warrior.

[auph10imitated]

Problem is where does that leave Warrior, I know in reality he left anyways in the summer. But having try to build him up as the next big thing, having him drop it back was a bit counter productive in terms of Warriors character so it was a difficult one. Unless Warrior turned hell but I couldnt really see that happening.

[willyjakes]

Feb 2, 2016 10:16:12 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

I know some folks have looked back at Hogan/Warrior and disliked things like Hogan having the visible pin on Warrior, or Hogan making the show of handing Warrior the belt and what have you, but I always thought it worked decently given the story of the match, that both men were just so evenly matched that it would take a slip up by one of them to bring about the end (in this case, Hogan missing his final leg drop attempt). 1990 Hogan hadn't overstayed his welcome yet, so I never found it all too objectionable.

I DO think that where he started going off the rails in his WWF run was the Earthquake feud; yeah, Quake looked like a legitimate threat, but Hogan wound up beating him too much. Besides, Quake probably should've at least had a program with then-champ Warrior.

The Hogan vs Goliath thing had been played out at that point. Quake should've been the monster to really make Warrior look vulnerable

Hogan to be honest needed to be off the air for 4 months minimum (if not 6) post Wrestlemania 6 to give Warrior some breathing room with the belt. Just have him vanish and have Gorilla say something like "Hulk is taking some time off to recover and contemplate..."

[Sephiroth]

Feb 2, 2016 10:16:12 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

I know some folks have looked back at Hogan/Warrior and disliked things like Hogan having the visible pin on Warrior, or Hogan making the show of handing Warrior the belt and what have you, but I always thought it worked decently given the story of the match, that both men were just so evenly matched that it would take a slip up by one of them to bring about the end (in this case, Hogan missing his final leg drop attempt). 1990 Hogan hadn't overstayed his welcome yet, so I never found it all too objectionable.

I DO think that where he started going off the rails in his WWF run was the Earthquake feud; yeah, Quake looked like a legitimate threat, but Hogan wound up beating him too much. Besides, Quake probably should've at least had a program with then-champ Warrior.

I've argued myself that it shoujd have been Warrior Vs Quake in the main event and Hogan vs Rude in the upper midcard. Hogan was still the main event even though Warrior was champ.

[SmashTV]

Although Hogan was gone from Wrestlemania to Summerslam, the fans never forgot about him and he was still 'the man'. Because Warrior's title reign didn't really pan out as expected (not really his fault, there just weren't any credible heels), you could have had him lose the title to Earthquake at Summerslam due to Jimmy Hart's interference. This sets up a rematch at Survivor Series, which also has Hogan returning to thank the fans for their support after being injured by Quake. He also issues a challenge at the Royal Rumble to whoever wins between Warrior and Earthquake that night.

Warrior wins the title, but soon after begins displaying slightly heelish tendencies i.e destroying jobbers after the bell, not breaking choke holds at the five count etc. When questioned about this by Mean Gene, he says that he was robbed of his title, and realised not playing by the rules helps you get ahead. He threatens to use these tactics on anyone who gets in his way, including Hogan at the Royal Rumble. When Hogan comes down to to try and appease him, Warrior attacks him and fully turns heel.

The match happens at the Royal Rumble (won by Mr Perfect), which Hogan wins by DQ after Warrior attacks him with a chair. The rematch at Wrestlemania VII is sanctioned as a no DQ, no countout match, with Hogan emerging victorious after an epic but bloody encounter.

My first ever bit of fantasy booking. Maybe it showed... :-)

[ICBM]

Hogan put him over as neat and tidy as you'd like. If Hogan had an out it was a small one and didn't blow a thing for me. He had to lose well to make warrior's win look as impressive as possible. He still beat Hogan with his finish. It's a short list of people who did that and all of them had to be positioned to look good after beating Hogan. Otherwise it's useless to have the biggest draw lose to someone.

Warrior beats Hogan, makes WWF money
Rock beats Hogan makes WWE money
Sting beats Hogan wcw made money (pissed away a bunch but Sting was a huge star for them and made money)
Goldberg beats Hogan makes wcw money
All thee above were done in such a way as to make the winner look like a star. Vs the below example where the results speak for themself

Kidman out of nowhere sort of beats Hogan but without build or context. The feud drew zero attention and finished with a fizzle. Kidman did nothing afterward. Nothing worth Hogan bumping for even a drop kick.

Warrior, Rock, Sting, Goldberg all drew money and were elevated. They were done in such a way as to maximize the efforts

[AtomSmasher]

For a while this was my favourite match - then i watched it again a couple of years later and i thought it was dull.
The balancing of everything so that Hogan didn't look too 'weak' gets a bit tedious and by 92 i'd seen Perfect/Hart and Flair go for 60 minutes to win the Rumble.
Looking back, it seemed obvious to introduce Earthquake as Warrior's next opponent - and as mentioned above, Hogan/Rude would have been intriguing (and could have built to the cage at SS)...
All in all, i suspect the match and the programs afterwards were another example of Hogan's ego running wild, jack.

[Hit Girl]

My all time favourite match, simply for sheer spectacle.

[Milkman Norm]

Feb 2, 2016 15:55:58 GMT -5 AtomSmasher said:

For a while this was my favourite match - then i watched it again a couple of years later and i thought it was dull.
The balancing of everything so that Hogan didn't look too 'weak' gets a bit tedious and by 92 i'd seen Perfect/Hart and Flair go for 60 minutes to win the Rumble.
Looking back, it seemed obvious to introduce Earthquake as Warrior's next opponent - and as mentioned above, Hogan/Rude would have been intriguing (and could have built to the cage at SS)...
All in all, i suspect the match and the programs afterwards were another example of Hogan's ego running wild, jack.

I don't think Hogan's ego had much to do with it. The match was laid out that way because Hogan was going to comeback to headline a top house show tour while Warrior headlined another top house show tour. The failure of WWF to push Warrior or of Warrior to not stay over as champion had nothing to do with Hogan.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

The whole problem with Warrior's reign was, once you have a guy smash through the entire roster, beat the top guy of the last whatever, 6 years, where do you go? The best heel they had was Quake and Hogan got him. Warrior simply had no place to go. He was in a no-win situation. Even if Warrior got Quake, it wouldn't have drawn much better than Rude. Your top face is only as good as your top heel.

The only way they had to go was Hogan wanting his title back and it would have killed off Warrior having him drop it back to Hogan. Warrior was booked into a corner, not his fault.

[auph10imitated]

If Warrior had won the title a year later he would have had a better selection of heels to face, you had Flair, Undertaker and Justice (if they didnt debut him as a face) all potentially hot feuds for Warrior, and of course the turn of Jake Roberts could have been a great feud for him also. Perhaps they should have turned Jake in 1990.

[Hanzo]

Feb 2, 2016 9:38:17 GMT -5 willyjakes said:

fwiw I don't think they would've stretched Hogan/Warrior to Wrestlemania 8, but a Wrestlemania 7 rematch should've definitely happened. A 100,000 seat stadium was a little too ambitious though.

If Hogan vs. Warrior couldn't draw 100,000, HHH vs. Roman Reigns darn sure ain't going to.

[Sephiroth]

Feb 3, 2016 1:21:16 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

The whole problem with Warrior's reign was, once you have a guy smash through the entire roster, beat the top guy of the last whatever, 6 years, where do you go? The best heel they had was Quake and Hogan got him. Warrior simply had no place to go. He was in a no-win situation. Even if Warrior got Quake, it wouldn't have drawn much better than Rude. Your top face is only as good as your top heel.

The only way they had to go was Hogan wanting his title back and it would have killed off Warrior having him drop it back to Hogan. Warrior was booked into a corner, not his fault.

There were several stars that Warrior had not worked with who would have had credibility as title opponents, like Savage or Jake Roberts. But even then, an argument could be made that those guys had already been hovering in the main event for a while and hence they wouldn't have offered much that was fresh or new. In a way its ironic; not long after Warrior's title reign ended The Undertaker rose swiftly to the top, and Sid Vicious/Justice would come to the WWF. Either of them could have made perfectly fresh and new title challengers for Warrior if they had held off on putting the belt on him a little longer.

I'd also like to point out that I've long found some ironic parallels between Warrior's title reign and Chris Benoit's. In both cases you had top drawer stars who fans had wanted to see become the top dog for some time. Their chase for the belt was heavily hyped, building them up as destined to be champion. Their title victory was a definitive moment, with the other top man raising their arm in the ring. But along the way, they forgot to build up a significant heel to act as challenger afterward and ended up doing a rush job with someone who fans had already seen the new champ work with numerous times. And even when holding the belt, they were still treated as the secondary act to the person the champ had gone over for the strap. And in the end, the title ended up being put on a short term, transition champion before being reverted to the same exact person the destined one had beaten for it. History repeating itself.

[Ron Woodsman aka Shempaholic]

Savage vs Warrior seems like it would have been a logical feud after WM6. No disrespect to Rick Rude, but a Warrior/Savage cage match at Summerslam would have likely done better than Rude/Warrior (Rick didn't really hit his peak until he got to WCW anyway). If I'm booking Summerslam 1990 I'd put Rude with Dusty Rhodes and Savage with Warrior (though if a Warrior/Savage feud happened that early we may have been robbed of their WM7 classic). Rude and Dusty would have been a fun feud; I can imagine Rude putting Sapphire's face on his tights.