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Post by ben:friendship frog on Feb 8, 2016 14:18:08 GMT -5
That and the story that seems to have broken today about him trying to give his notice to WWE. Seems a hell of a lot of stuff going on for a retirement. Also, why is everyone blaming Sheamus? Sheamus was his last opponent before he went out, so people are deciding that he must've injured him, rather than it just being a culmination of wear & tear. It wasn't though. His last match was against Tyson Kidd and Cesaro while teaming with John Cena.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 14:18:25 GMT -5
Not to mention there was that complete and utter bullshit story about Sheamus claiming a bounty WWE put out for anyone who shoot injured Bryan. Wait, what? That's so utterly baffling.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Feb 8, 2016 14:18:28 GMT -5
Meltzer is saying it's legit It's kind of sad when we need confirmation that someone is actually retiring and it isn't a storyline. That's just the nature of the business. We're trained to be suspicious of everything, even retirements.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Feb 8, 2016 14:18:40 GMT -5
Being upset about someone retiring doesn't make it okay to project on to his friend because of some goofy myth that one's been trying to hold the other down. But Bryan WAS held down. Not by Sheamus personally but by the company and its outdated views. And maybe Bryan's body wouldn't be so beaten to shit if he wasn't trying too hard trying to make this company open their eyes to real talent. But a talent of Bryan's caliber being forced to retire while lesser guys who couldn't hold his jock in the ring are still running around (admittedly including guys that I like) is going to fester resentment. The only thing those fans did wrong was use the words "kill yourself". Sheamus did absolutely nothing to retire Bryan. There's literally no point or reason to yelling at him on Twitter because of it.
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Post by bearned on Feb 8, 2016 14:18:45 GMT -5
This sucks but I am glad he is retiring rather than risking his health. Too many people have passed away too young in the business by not taking care of themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 14:19:14 GMT -5
All of his fans simply have to look at the litigation happy society for blame. Second to that ever since WWE went public there are stock holders that must be kept happy.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 8, 2016 14:19:25 GMT -5
Being upset about someone retiring doesn't make it okay to project on to his friend because of some goofy myth that one's been trying to hold the other down. But Bryan WAS held down. Not by Sheamus personally but by the company and its outdated views. And maybe Bryan's body wouldn't be so beaten to shit if he wasn't trying too hard trying to make this company open their eyes to real talent. But a talent of Bryan's caliber being forced to retire while lesser guys who couldn't hold his jock in the ring are still running around (admittedly including guys that I like) is going to fester resentment. The only thing those fans did wrong was use the words "kill yourself". I'd also like to point out WWE's hypocrisy with Bryan's health. He missed most of 2014 with a neck injury, and two months after returning they put him in a car crash ladder match. They don't care about his health. They care about this concussion lawsuit.
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Post by edgehead on Feb 8, 2016 14:19:51 GMT -5
I was fortunate enough to see Bryan wrestle in community centers and things of that nature on a few occassions with people like Brian Kendrick (Who was Spanky), The Haas Brothers, etc. So to look back at that and then be able to attend the Occupy Raw movement episode was incredible. And then watching him hold up the titles at Wrestlemania was surreal as I thought back to those days at the community center. What an incredible story he told.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 8, 2016 14:19:59 GMT -5
Not to mention there was that complete and utter bullshit story about Sheamus claiming a bounty WWE put out for anyone who shoot injured Bryan. Wait, what? That's so utterly baffling. It wasn't so much a story, per se... More like an insane foilhat conspiracy theory floated out by the dregs of the fandom.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Feb 8, 2016 14:20:18 GMT -5
Ignoring the too soon argument since it does not exist in WWE, Hall of Fame: 2016 or 2017?
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Post by Perd on Feb 8, 2016 14:20:44 GMT -5
I blame Big Show. I also blame him for it being so f***ing cold outside. F*** you, Show!
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Feb 8, 2016 14:20:49 GMT -5
But Bryan WAS held down. Not by Sheamus personally but by the company and its outdated views. And maybe Bryan's body wouldn't be so beaten to shit if he wasn't trying too hard trying to make this company open their eyes to real talent. But a talent of Bryan's caliber being forced to retire while lesser guys who couldn't hold his jock in the ring are still running around (admittedly including guys that I like) is going to fester resentment. The only thing those fans did wrong was use the words "kill yourself". I'd also like to point out WWE's hypocrisy with Bryan's health. He missed most of 2014 with a neck injury, and two months after returning they put him in a car crash ladder match. They don't care about his health. They care about this concussion lawsuit. Pretty much, plus how many times did he pull double duty on RAW in 2013? It was insane.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Feb 8, 2016 14:21:02 GMT -5
I'm not shocked but it still f***ing sucks.
The dude is one of the best in ring performers of all time
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Feb 8, 2016 14:21:39 GMT -5
Again, I hope Vito and all the scum involved in this lawsuit never see a dime. WWE's hardly a non-profit charity organization, but they're a big part in Bryan's situation. I'd rather watch Vince take big handfuls of money and burn it than see the SmackDown crossdresser get an easy settlement.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 14:22:21 GMT -5
Ignoring the too soon argument since it does not exist in WWE, Hall of Fame: 2016 or 2017? I'd assume next year, given they could always use more headliners and already have Sting for this year.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Feb 8, 2016 14:22:49 GMT -5
Ignoring the too soon argument since it does not exist in WWE, Hall of Fame: 2016 or 2017? 2017. I'd assume they already have their list concrete right now, so I don't see them bumping someone else right now so soon to Mania.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 14:23:25 GMT -5
It just all seems weird to me that Bryan's retiring after he was so adamant on returning to the ring. He denounced doing anything else other than wrestling including being an announcer, a trainer and an on-air figure, he was told that he couldn't even be let out of his contract...now suddenly his Tide commercial's coming out, his hair's short, he's announced he's retiring on Raw tonight, he'll be on ESPN this week. What's happening? Either Bryan realized he was never being cleared and the WWE gave him a hell of a new deal which he couldn't refuse or this is a work. I highly doubt he's heading to New Japan since they're promoting the hell out of him right now. Regardless, amazing wrestler, probably the #1 guy recently who overcame everything they threw at him and he's changed not only those in the business but fans as well. He will be missed. maybe he decided leaving to wrestle elsewhere would put stress on his marriage with Brie Could be but given Bryan's very passionate and Brie knows about his future they probably gave Bryan a hell of a deal for this. - Improved pay with better promotion for him - On-air role that's equal if not above the Authority/GM - Many WWE ambassador deals - Brie gets a push - 2017 Hall of Fame - Major backstage official I don't know but all sorts of stuff they probably did. They're probably going to do whatever it takes so he stays with the company when his contract's over with. Either way if I were Bryan I'd let it all hang tonight. Just let him go with it, start shooting and hit who he feels he needs to. My best guess would be with them refusing to let him go and freezing his contract, he probably figured he has no choice but to play ball with them for now and take some other unrelated job because otherwise he's basically stuck unable to leave. More than likely what happened. That and the story that seems to have broken today about him trying to give his notice to WWE. Seems a hell of a lot of stuff going on for a retirement. Also, why is everyone blaming Sheamus? Yeah it's crazy this is all happening at once. And you know how a large amount of wrestling fans are, they're ignorant.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Feb 8, 2016 14:24:17 GMT -5
Ignoring the too soon argument since it does not exist in WWE, Hall of Fame: 2016 or 2017? Hopefully 2017. I don't think I can emotionally handle two speeches from Bryan about this situation within two months of each other.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 8, 2016 14:24:53 GMT -5
Again, I hope Vito and all the scum involved in this lawsuit never see a dime. WWE's hardly a non-profit charity organization, but they're a big part in Bryan's situation. I'd rather watch Vince take big handfuls of money and burn it than see the SmackDown crossdresser get an easy settlement. They might've sued WWE, but it was WWE who chose to keep Bryan out of the ring purely for PR reasons and not out of any genuine concern for him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 14:25:09 GMT -5
D-Bry was always entertaining, but at this point in WWE's trajectory, I'm not sure where he'd even fit in the landscape of the company.
He'd still be the workhorse mid-card guy, but based on all the indicators WWE has out there about who they want in the main event scene and how they're shaping it, Bryan wouldn't even be near the upper-mid card if he was able to come back to WWE.
Hopefully they find a non-wrestling role for him as he's definitely been a key factor in WWE's few bright spots during the past 5-6 years.
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