So.. is like half the roster about to retire?

[ben:friendship frog]

With these new CTE scans which Daniel Bryan was able to have access to which gave him this data which ultimately led to his retirement, if WWE really does care about their talent and taking concussions seriously nowadays then surely every single member of the roster should be sent for these tests?

Then where do we end up? The amount of concussions on that roster must be insane.

Dudleys, Ziggler, Jericho and The Miz come straight to mind. It sucks but for the long term benefits of all the wrestlers they really should look into this if they're not already. It shouldn't be like Ziggler gets a mild concussion in 18 months, they test him and realise how messed up his brain might be. They should test them all right now and then routinely test.

[Brother-RD]

Unless a talent is experiencing lingering post-concussion symptoms, I doubt anyone is about to be rigorously tested by order of WWE. It's too potentially devastating to the company.

[Burst]

It's one of those tricky things where not everyone's brain is necessarily affected in the same way. You honestly would have to treat it as a case-by-case thing.

[ben:friendship frog]

Feb 9, 2016 15:05:00 GMT -5 Burst said:

It's one of those tricky things where not everyone's brain is necessarily affected in the same way. You honestly would have to treat it as a case-by-case thing.

Definitely, but I feel like there should be a starting point and they should just test everyone now. The problem is as Bryan found out, you might feel okay but you're really not and it could have a really drastic effect on the company if they lose a couple of top stars, but their health is the most important thing.

[Burst]

Well practically half the roster is on the shelf anyway for other injuries, so they might as well test. It does depend on how elaborate/expensive the CTE test Bryan got is, though.

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I'd figure at least a few of them are probably readying for it. Really if they haven't extensively tested at least certain people with a notable history of concussions, like Ziggler, already (like in the aftermath of Christian retiring over the same thing) then they really, really should.

[Fade is a CodyCryBaby]

Feb 9, 2016 15:01:55 GMT -5 Brother-RD said:

Unless a talent is experiencing lingering post-concussion symptoms, I doubt anyone is about to be rigorously tested by order of WWE. It's too potentially devastating to the company.

That's the scary truth. I think eventually, an off-season or having two rosters switching out, will become inevitable.

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Bryan is a more extreme case than any of these. Guys like Miz and Ziggler have had 2-3 concussions, which obviously isn't ideal but they've also both been healthy for years now.

[thecrusherwi]

I would bet the NFL would pay WWE millions to make sure no other wrestlers get that CTE test. They don't want the media to run with the idea If "fake" sports can mess you up this bad, what would a "real" sport do to you!?"

[molson5]

It depends on how they interpret the results. These scans are being used in MMA camps, but they're not immediately shutting people down forever when they see damage, they're using the scans to identify when to take breaks from sparing (per Meltzer). Brain damage DOES occur in any contact sport, it's just a question of severity and how much damage we're willing to accept as a society. We've always accepted a fair amount, even the entire concept of getting knocked out is based upon damage to the brain. Apparently (agan per Meltzer), the brain is really good at bypassing damaged areas and maintaining normal function until the damaged portions heal. But, are we willing to accept the damage in the first place? Those are the questions we'll be asking ourselves in the years to come. I'm guessing that once we realize that every contact sports athlete (and anyone else who has been hit in the head a lot) suffers some damage to the brain, we might get a little numb to it. It's not like every athlete dies young. But hopefully we'll use these tools to make everything somewhat safer, to decrease the number of people who really suffer, and to provide more information so athletes can make more informed decisions about the risks.

[Chuck Conry]

So how bad is Bryan's brain supposed to be at this point? Any word on what scared him so much and caused this?

[YAKMAN is ICHIBAN]

Feb 9, 2016 16:37:43 GMT -5 Chuck Conry said:

So how bad is Bryan's brain supposed to be at this point? Any word on what scared him so much and caused this?

There's no hard news on the specifics of his medical tests as far as I know, but you could see it in is eyes that it must have been pretty damn scary.

[Fade is a CodyCryBaby]

Feb 9, 2016 17:43:17 GMT -5 YAKMAN is ICHIBAN said:

Feb 9, 2016 16:37:43 GMT -5 Chuck Conry said:

So how bad is Bryan's brain supposed to be at this point? Any word on what scared him so much and caused this?

There's no hard news on the specifics of his medical tests as far as I know, but you could see it in is eyes that it must have been pretty damn scary.

Think of how bad he was trying to come back, getting other doctors clearances, even alluding to wrestling elsewhere, whatever he was told had to be bad.

[ASYLUMHAUSEN]

John Cena is held together by scotch tape, staples & yarn at this point....I gotta imagine he'll be sliding from active competitor to company ambassador a lot sooner than people think.

[mcstoklasa]

Mick Foley could not have been allowed to compete if he was in this era. Moves like where an opponent snaps his head back onto the steel ramp from a standing position. Jesus, I'm pretty sure he said that gave him a concussion in the Orton match. I wonder how many he had?

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Feb 9, 2016 17:52:48 GMT -5 mcstoklasa said:

Mick Foley could not have been allowed to compete if he was in this era. Moves like where an opponent snaps his head back onto the steel ramp from a standing position. Jesus, I'm pretty sure he said that gave him a concussion in the Orton match. I wonder how many he had?

If I were to guess, all of them. He had all of the concussions.

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

Feb 9, 2016 15:48:30 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

Bryan is a more extreme case than any of these. Guys like Miz and Ziggler have had 2-3 concussions, which obviously isn't ideal but they've also both been healthy for years now.

2-3 diagnosed concussions. God only knows what else they could have had happen either in developmental or even just thanks to the regular impact of being in the ring. Everybody should get tested.

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Feb 9, 2016 17:50:58 GMT -5 ASYLUMHAUSEN said:

John Cena is held together by scotch tape, staples & yarn at this point....I gotta imagine he'll be sliding from active competitor to company ambassador a lot sooner than people think.

I mean, it's not hard to tell. He's been visibly winding down his career the past couple of years with the move toward building his name in Hollywood and his decreasing prominence.

[ASYLUMHAUSEN]

Feb 9, 2016 18:02:35 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Feb 9, 2016 17:50:58 GMT -5 ASYLUMHAUSEN said:

John Cena is held together by scotch tape, staples & yarn at this point....I gotta imagine he'll be sliding from active competitor to company ambassador a lot sooner than people think.

I mean, it's not hard to tell. He's been visibly winding down his career the past couple of years with the move toward building his name in Hollywood and his decreasing prominence.

I mean, I know I didn't exactly go out on a limb with the statement (as your points show) but I get this feeling people think he'll be around forever given that he has come back from shit and wrestled regularly way faster than pretty much any other human possibly could.

So, either he's got Wolverine/Deadpool's healing factor....or he's working through a lotta pain. Even with the lighter schedule he's worked the last few years, the man still has to be living with a whole lotta daily pain lingering from the various injuries.

[mcstoklasa]

Feb 9, 2016 17:57:27 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Feb 9, 2016 17:52:48 GMT -5 mcstoklasa said:

Mick Foley could not have been allowed to compete if he was in this era. Moves like where an opponent snaps his head back onto the steel ramp from a standing position. Jesus, I'm pretty sure he said that gave him a concussion in the Orton match. I wonder how many he had?

If I were to guess, all of them. He had all of the concussions.

WWE Hall of Famer Mick Foley did an interview for StarTribune.com:

How many concussions do you think you've had?

Unfortunately, I had too many for me to count really.

You must have an enormous tolerance for pain, given this lore about you fighting with a separated shoulder.

You've got to make sure we talk about that in past tense. I did have a tremendous tolerance for pain. Now, not so much. Almost anything [brings me to my knees now]. I’m a guy who used to be fairly fearless. Now, please don’t tell me I have to walk down a flight of steps. [Wrestling] was tough on the body, the knee joints, the back, and so stairs are difficult.