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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Feb 13, 2016 14:22:45 GMT -5
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 13, 2016 14:43:43 GMT -5
Not saying anything because I hate Shaun King so much that I am not giving him the satisfaction of talking about this story.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 13, 2016 14:53:25 GMT -5
What a wonderful and constructive contribution to this thread.
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Post by MGH on Feb 13, 2016 14:56:05 GMT -5
What a wonderful and constructive contribution to this thread. I've had him on ignore since I retired. I just got to read this story this morning and I admit it actually shook me a little bit. It's a disgusting, kind of horrifying story to be honest. We really need to stop pretending we "know" these athletes we root for. We never really do.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Feb 13, 2016 14:59:13 GMT -5
Damning, but not shocking. I hope that book contains something pointing out the lies though I doubt it.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 13, 2016 15:03:36 GMT -5
What a wonderful and constructive contribution to this thread. Okay, you want contribution....fine. I hope this isn't true, but if it is...Manning should just retire from public life as well as the NFL.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 13, 2016 15:04:34 GMT -5
I had heard the scuttlebutt about this happening and I brushed it off as unsubstantiated rumors. Especially since when I hear "sexual assault," my mind jumps to "rape." But the documents presented and the trail of evidence and testimony corroborating everyone else but the Mannings' story is real damning. At least it wasn't rape, but it's still a pretty heinous action and Manning should've been punished for it.
But then we've seen how corrupting sports culture is when it comes to covering up sexual assaults by star athletes and coaches and punishing the victims instead. Hell, what happened with Jameis Winston shows this applies as much in the present day as it did in 1996.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 13, 2016 15:43:40 GMT -5
Yep....Super Bowl 50 is more looking like something all of us may want to forget. Carolina fans for how bad our team played and Denver fans because the star quarterback may be one level under Rae Carruth.
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Post by BRV on Feb 13, 2016 16:20:27 GMT -5
As I've said in the past few days and weeks, Peyton Manning is football's Lance Armstrong. Performance-enhancing drug use allegations? Check. Aw-shucks and affable in front of the camera but ruthless and cutthroat behind it? Check. Willing to go to absurd lengths to destroy an accuser's reputation? Check. However, even Lance Armstrong didn't go as far as to allegedly sexually assault someone.
Peyton Manning can put on the facade of the gregarious, easy-going gentleman, but we now know it's just that: a facade. It's a farce, a disingenuous character created to make America and the media at large love him while accusations and allegations get swept under the rug. He's lucky that he and daddy have the national sports media in their back pocket, because it took someone like Shaun King (who, again, I'm not much of a fan of) to really breathe national life into this story that needs to be told. Sure, it's upwards of 20 years old, but it's a story that has to be told, if nothing else than as a warning to every sports fan or athletic team or college program, that the people we see on television are not the deities we so badly want them to be.
I just don't understand how Manning is so teflon. No athlete in American sports has ever been treated with kid gloves the way Manning has. Even Michael Jordan had Sam Smith's "The Jordan Rules". If Jameis Winston has Tallahassee follow him forever, if Ben Roethlisberger will have Lake Tahoe and Milledgeville attached to his name for all of eternity, then Peyton Manning should absolutely have this story accompany him. No amount of Papa John kissing or Budweiser hawking or golly-gee-whiz-ing should allow him to avoid this story.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 13, 2016 16:40:20 GMT -5
All you have to do is be nice to media guys, say all the right things in front of a camera, smile every now and then, and you're Teflon for life.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 13, 2016 21:16:21 GMT -5
What's sad is that because he won another super bowl and people are still in the afterglow of that, this will be largely forgotten by the time next season starts.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 13, 2016 22:21:16 GMT -5
ESPN still refuses to talk about it as it is nowhere on their website.
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Post by Some Guy on Feb 13, 2016 22:28:33 GMT -5
This was in The Daily Beast last week, so at least Shaun King brought it higher I guess
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Post by Spider2024 on Feb 13, 2016 23:59:28 GMT -5
Pey-ton-likes-to-fling-his-junk.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 14, 2016 0:31:40 GMT -5
I don't know that I'd call it 'assault', but it was definitely harassment that nothing was ever done about.
Seems odd to bring it up twenty years later unless the woman was pressing charges or something of that nature, which she's clearly not.
Not saying Peyton should've 'gotten away' with it or anything either mind ya.
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Post by "Mr Wonderdick" Dick Dastardly on Feb 14, 2016 1:27:10 GMT -5
I find it amusing that people here in Indiana are going "Derp! This was in the past! Leave Peyton alone!", yet some of those people are the same ones always harping on Tom Brady and the Patriots for being "cheaters".
I think this is just a little bit worse than less air in footballs and taping practices.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Feb 14, 2016 4:51:40 GMT -5
I don't know that I'd call it 'assault', but it was definitely harassment that nothing was ever done about. Seems odd to bring it up twenty years later unless the woman was pressing charges or something of that nature, which she's clearly not. Not saying Peyton should've 'gotten away' with it or anything either mind ya. If someone put their dick into your mother, daughter, sister, etc face unwantedly while they were doing their job, what would you call that?
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Post by ibdude on Feb 14, 2016 5:33:28 GMT -5
This just shows that the hero worship some people put on these celebrities has to stop. Nine times out of ten you will never know these people, and vice versa. All you know is what you see on tv. Charles Barkley was right when he said he wasn't a role model.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 14, 2016 9:27:16 GMT -5
I wonder if Urlacher and Romanowski will crawl out of their who-gives-a-f*** holes to say Manning needs to "act better."
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 14, 2016 9:37:44 GMT -5
Several years back, there was an ESPN radio commenter, I think Colin Cowherd (though I'm loathe to give him credit for anything), that talked about Peyton Manning and how he'd successfully built this facade for himself, pretending to be this common goofy guy you see in commercials. For some reason, that always painted how I viewed him, and this really is a horrific reminder of how the privaleged try to create images for their own profit. I don't know that I'd call it 'assault', but it was definitely harassment that nothing was ever done about. Seems odd to bring it up twenty years later unless the woman was pressing charges or something of that nature, which she's clearly not. Not saying Peyton should've 'gotten away' with it or anything either mind ya. The documents were apparently kept under wraps until just recently, which is why it's being brought up again. And while it may not be rape, I'm pretty sure shoving someone's dick into someone else's face non-consensually constitutes sexual assault. I'm not a legal expert, but it'd be surprising to me if it didn't.
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