Is it too late for Cody Rhodes?

[Rican]

Cody Rhodes has been on the main roster for almost ten years now. In that time he's reinvented himself numerous times and has seemed on his way to the top a few times but has never quite made it. As long as he's been around, he's still only 30 years old, same age as Roman Reigns.

Do you think the ship has sailed on Cody as a main eventer? Or do you think it might still happen?

[Final Countdown Jones]

Mark Henry is proof that so long as you're employed, it's never too late.

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He has a huge uphill battle. Its not even because of the Stardust gimmick. Cody looked like a main eventer when it was just Cena and Everyone Else, but I can't picture him as a top star in a company that also employs AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens, Finn Balor, etc. Cody used to be with it, then WWE changed what "it" was.

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I saw him job in four minutes last night in the pre-show dark match to Fandango. I'm not ready to stick a fork in him yet, but I'm close.

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Lord no. He's probably the only guy who's not constantly on tv you know will eventually make it. He's the only guy on the roster who's not a main eventer that has constantly had some sort of gimmick, angle, plot/character progression or segment for the past 9 years. Not even Big Show and Sheamus fit in this category and even more than that, Cody's said in the past that he wants that long grind to the top. He's old school. He didn't want a quick rise.

Xavier Woods is probably more done than Cody I'd say and he's in New Day and on Raw weekly.

[häšhtå.gdālėÿ]

Yes.

Though I never thought there was ever a time for Cody Rhodes. One of the most boring and uninspiring guys around, in my mind.

[Perd]

Ten years from now he will be trying to talk Kofi Kingston into teaming with him.

[carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army)]

Dude can run with any gimmick they want to give him. Any time they wanted him to be important, he would be.

[DZ: WF Legacy]

Once the office has a view of a guy, it's very hard to get them to change it without a Daniel Bryan-like level of support. I don't think they view Cody as much of anything beyond a solid, dependable hand. Before Stardust, we was floundering around...much like he is now. His last memorable thing was "guy who has mustache," and before that was the awesome initial Cody/Goldust feud against The Shield and others for the tag belts. He can obviously do it, but he's gotta strike gold with another gimmick/character to get them to notice again. It clearly ain't happenin' with Stardust.

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Mar 9, 2016 23:32:53 GMT -5 DZ: WF Legacy said:

Once the office has a view of a guy, it's very hard to get them to change it without a Daniel Bryan-like level of support. I don't think they view Cody as much of anything beyond a solid, dependable hand. Before Stardust, we was floundering around...much like he is now. His last memorable thing was "guy who has mustache," and before that was the awesome initial Cody/Goldust feud against The Shield and others for the tag belts. He can obviously do it, but he's gotta strike gold with another gimmick/character to get them to notice again. It clearly ain't happenin' with Stardust.

Cody/Goldust vs Shield was after his mustaches Team Rhodes Scholar run. His team with Goldie was the last thing regular Cody did before becoming Stardust.

[chazraps]

It's never too late.

REMINDER: It's wrestling.

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Mar 9, 2016 23:47:27 GMT -5 @notoriousnd22 said:

Mar 9, 2016 23:32:53 GMT -5 DZ: WF Legacy said:

Once the office has a view of a guy, it's very hard to get them to change it without a Daniel Bryan-like level of support. I don't think they view Cody as much of anything beyond a solid, dependable hand. Before Stardust, we was floundering around...much like he is now. His last memorable thing was "guy who has mustache," and before that was the awesome initial Cody/Goldust feud against The Shield and others for the tag belts. He can obviously do it, but he's gotta strike gold with another gimmick/character to get them to notice again. It clearly ain't happenin' with Stardust.

Cody/Goldust vs Shield was after his mustaches Team Rhodes Scholar run. His team with Goldie was the last thing regular Cody did before becoming Stardust.

Ah, that's right. My mistake.

That just reminds me of that cool spot in the ladder match with Rhodes and Sandow.

[JCBaggee]

Cody's not done. He looked done a long time ago, but never forget that deep down inside, just waiting to be given a chance to truly break the glass ceiling is the Cody Rhodes who was haphazardly booked into one of his most memorable feuds because creative forgot he was getting married.

[Crappler El 0 M]

It might be, but it doesn't have to be.

[Dean-o]

He will get his time.

[abjordans]

Mar 9, 2016 23:25:10 GMT -5 @kn said:

Lord no. He's probably the only guy who's not constantly on tv you know will eventually make it. He's the only guy on the roster who's not a main eventer that has constantly had some sort of gimmick, angle, plot/character progression or segment for the past 9 years. Not even Big Show and Sheamus fit in this category and even more than that, Cody's said in the past that he wants that long grind to the top. He's old school. He didn't want a quick rise.

Xavier Woods is probably more done than Cody I'd say and he's in New Day and on Raw weekly.

This makes no sense. New Day is one of the top 3 acts in the company. Xavier is a big part of them being what they are. Cody has never once had a run as hot and as long as New Day. Also, Cody has not had constant angles. He has had lots of runs where he wasn't doinguch, including this entire Stardust run, minus the Amell stuff. Cody is just not going to be a top guy in WWE. I am not sure he will ever be a major force in the midcard. WWE is just too stacked now, like someone said earlier. It is hard for the guys who only have WWE experience to really gain traction.

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Mar 10, 2016 0:40:37 GMT -5 abjordans said:

Mar 9, 2016 23:25:10 GMT -5 @kn said:

Lord no. He's probably the only guy who's not constantly on tv you know will eventually make it. He's the only guy on the roster who's not a main eventer that has constantly had some sort of gimmick, angle, plot/character progression or segment for the past 9 years. Not even Big Show and Sheamus fit in this category and even more than that, Cody's said in the past that he wants that long grind to the top. He's old school. He didn't want a quick rise.

Xavier Woods is probably more done than Cody I'd say and he's in New Day and on Raw weekly.

This makes no sense. New Day is one of the top 3 acts in the company. Xavier is a big part of them being what they are. Cody has never once had a run as hot and as long as New Day. Also, Cody has not had constant angles. He has had lots of runs where he wasn't doinguch, including this entire Stardust run, minus the Amell stuff. Cody is just not going to be a top guy in WWE. I am not sure he will ever be a major force in the midcard. WWE is just too stacked now, like someone said earlier. It is hard for the guys who only have WWE experience to really gain traction.

I'm the one who said that the roster was too stacked for Cody to make much headway, but I kinda get what he means. Cody is someone who could theoretically be inserted in a midcard role, even if only just to put some other guys over. While New Day is one of the hottest acts in the company right now, Xavier as an individual seems like he has already hit his ceiling as New Day's mouthpiece who almost never wrestles and only has titles on his resume via the Freebird Rule; Xavier probably realizes this, hence why he says his goal is to "help Kofi make it" rather than himself.

[taker1990]

I think his Time will come but it's a couple yrs away.

[ilggant]

I think JBL is the answer to the 'is it ever too late' debate.

It never is. If the company decides to get behind someone, they will.

Especially with someone as talented as Cody.

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Mar 10, 2016 0:40:37 GMT -5 abjordans said:

Mar 9, 2016 23:25:10 GMT -5 @kn said:

Lord no. He's probably the only guy who's not constantly on tv you know will eventually make it. He's the only guy on the roster who's not a main eventer that has constantly had some sort of gimmick, angle, plot/character progression or segment for the past 9 years. Not even Big Show and Sheamus fit in this category and even more than that, Cody's said in the past that he wants that long grind to the top. He's old school. He didn't want a quick rise.

Xavier Woods is probably more done than Cody I'd say and he's in New Day and on Raw weekly.

This makes no sense. New Day is one of the top 3 acts in the company. Xavier is a big part of them being what they are. Cody has never once had a run as hot and as long as New Day. Also, Cody has not had constant angles. He has had lots of runs where he wasn't doinguch, including this entire Stardust run, minus the Amell stuff. Cody is just not going to be a top guy in WWE. I am not sure he will ever be a major force in the midcard. WWE is just too stacked now, like someone said earlier. It is hard for the guys who only have WWE experience to really gain traction.

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Catch_US described it well.

Cody is someone who could theoretically be inserted in a midcard role, even if only just to put some other guys over. While New Day is one of the hottest acts in the company right now, Xavier as an individual seems like he has already hit his ceiling as New Day's mouthpiece who almost never wrestles and only has titles on his resume via the Freebird Rule; Xavier probably realizes this, hence why he says his goal is to "help Kofi make it" rather than himself.

That's just the truth of the matter. For example guaranteed Cody will be inserted in a WM match for a midcard title simply because they trust him and he's legit enough for it. He was the guy trusted to go against Amell, guy trusted to go over 40 minutes in a Rumble while also eliminating 6 dudes, guy trusted to go against Big Show at a Wrestlemania, Orton feuds, ladder matches at WM for titles or even briefcase matches. New Day's popping but Xavier's actually the lowest one of the totem pole out of all 3. Kofi's the veteran who's the most well-known with the accolades who has a had a real career in the company, Big E's a former IC champion, former NXT Champion and Vince actually wanted to push Big E in Roman's spot but Triple H made him think of Roman instead. Xavier on the other hand, he's great at what he does as their mouthpiece but like said, Xavier's goal is to help Kofi be WWE Champion as he himself said. He doesn't have Big E's look and power nor does he have Kofi's speed and ring skills. Xavier basically has a ceiling here. You really compare that to someone like Cody who's been in the game for 9 years and has had some transitional moments? I mean it doesn't hold up. Besides that you can't say "well New Day is this over so Xavier will be-" if he moved onto a single's career because the same could apply to Nexus or any other group where one guy moves onto a singles. Basically I'm saying that Cody/Stardust is more secure in a company standpoint by himself rather than Xavier alone because Xavier's mostly here due to the New Day, not by himself. If they broke up Kofi and Big E would be fine while Xavier likely wouldn't be.

I stick by my statement. It just is what it is.