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Post by Throwback on Mar 14, 2016 5:50:43 GMT -5
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Mar 14, 2016 6:03:59 GMT -5
- It was in keeping with the juvenile sort of shit DX went in for. - It was only the European title (which admittedly meant more at the time but not world title level) - If memory serves they were forced into the match. - It wasn't the payoff to a year long feud - Lack of "butts in seats"
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 14, 2016 6:04:33 GMT -5
Because it was for the European Title, not the biggest title in the company. Also DX hadn't spent years running roughshod over the faces for years. There was also Slaughter at the end saying that Owen Hart would get a shot at the title, so there was something to look forward to.
With the Fingerpoke, it was once again the nWo getting over on WCW, and showing that there was no hope for the good guys to win and destroy the nWo.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Mar 14, 2016 6:14:21 GMT -5
I was gonna say that it did actually make the belt a bit of a joke from then on, but looking at the Euro title, it actually had a great run, with few exceptions I have fond memories of every holder. (Notable exceptions being Spike Dudley and Bradshaw, neither of whom I remember holding it)
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 14, 2016 6:19:19 GMT -5
There wasn't really any build to think there'd be animosity between the two, and they were being put into the match to try to drive a wedge between them. I suppose they valued their free will and giving Slaughter a bit of a "f*** off" over that particular belt, plus if he had to lose it, better to a buddy than someone else.
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Post by Ludwig Kaiser’s Walk on Mar 14, 2016 6:28:36 GMT -5
Hogan and Nash had more or less been feuding for a long time within the nWo. HHH and HBK were forced into the match as well.
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Post by jmule on Mar 14, 2016 6:37:17 GMT -5
I dunno what you're complaining about I thought that match was right up there with savage /steamboat.
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Post by Push R Truth on Mar 14, 2016 6:40:07 GMT -5
The only real thing in common was "Title was on the line and both guys were on the same side". Everything except that was different.
That's not a WWE whitewashed opinion, that's just the facts from somebody that watched both when they hit the airwaves. Fingerpoke felt like a giant FU to the audience that we had no recourse against... except to change the channel. The European title match was an FU to Commissioner Slaughter, was your typical DX hyjinx, wasn't the culmination of some giant feud and ended with Slaughter getting some recourse by booking the next title match.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 6:43:34 GMT -5
Because the Fingerpoke Of Doom was supposed to be a rematch between Goldberg and Nash after shenanigans broke the streak. Then Goldberg got replaced by Hogan, which sucked, but at least he was feuding with Nash. Then that happened.
But for the record, I thought DX doing it sucked too. They could have had someone from the Hart Foundation win it from Shawn, and then lose it a couple weeks later to Triple H.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 14, 2016 10:13:27 GMT -5
As stated it's Apples and Oranges.
Nash and Hogan were rivals, and was supposed to be a big match that was the culmination of NWO Hollywood and the NWO Wolfpack rivalry for the World Title.
Shawn and HHH were two friends that didn't want to wrestle for the lower mid-card belt so had a farce of a match to mess with the authority figure that were making them wrestle.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Mar 14, 2016 11:00:56 GMT -5
I still stand by my thought that the Fingerpoke of Doom would've worked fine if they had followed it up properly. I have recently been watching the Nitros in order and it's actually pretty good TV after the FOD until SuperBrawl when they again make the NWO go over in every match.
Had it led to Goldberg beating Hall, then Nash, and then making it clear that he was stalking Hogan rather than screwing around with Bam Bam Bigelow and then doing f*** all for 2 months, it would've been fine.
The DX one was clearly supposed to get them over for being immature, yet smarter than Slaughter, to show Michaels as a coward who wanted no part of Owen, and to transition Hunter into a feud with Owen over the title without having to damage Michaels by hotshotting it to someone. Made sense.
EDIT: For the record I still think the FOD was beyond stupid and there are 100 other things they should have done instead (including not turning the white hot Wolfpac heel or giving Hogan the belt), but I think it was salvageable until about March when the feud lost Goldberg, Flair turned heel, and all hell broke lose in the Main Event. Ugh it still pisses me off.
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Post by corndog on Mar 14, 2016 11:17:50 GMT -5
I agree with everyone that this was nothing close to Nash/Hogan. Sgt. Slaughter forced them to face off being best friends and in DX together. Nash/Hogan was a match that was supposed to be a payoff for a year long feud. Also, the Nash/Hogan match was supposed to keep us from tuning into Mick Foley winning the WWF title that WCW told everyone about. Granted, everyone tuned into Raw anyways, by that point WCW had already burned us enough times, and in their last chance to get people to give a crap about them, they blew it.
On just the "match" itself, I did love Ross and Cornette's digs at Michaels. Cornette saying Michaels could cry on cue and Ross saying he lost his smile.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Mar 14, 2016 11:19:13 GMT -5
The other key is "at the time" at the time the FPoD pissed people off but it was in part good heat because the nWo were heels. In part it was bad heat because Nash was over as a cool face and probably should have protected his spot better. (I'm not joking. I think Kevin Nash should have politiced more in late 1998 as far as his character went) People were clearly done with Hogan as the top heel and needed a break. But I think it could have worked hey they done.....you know? Anything to follow it up.
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Post by lebuddha on Mar 14, 2016 13:49:06 GMT -5
I agree with everyone that this was nothing close to Nash/Hogan. Sgt. Slaughter forced them to face off being best friends and in DX together. Nash/Hogan was a match that was supposed to be a payoff for a year long feud. Also, the Nash/Hogan match was supposed to keep us from tuning into Mick Foley winning the WWF title that WCW told everyone about. Granted, everyone tuned into Raw anyways, by that point WCW had already burned us enough times, and in their last chance to get people to give a crap about them, they blew it. Combined with Goldberg's streak ending a few weeks before at Starrcade + with the screwjob tazer ending + and the nWo reforming after the FPoD: there was no reason to watch WCW anymore, which is why they lost in the ratings war after this.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Mar 14, 2016 16:44:23 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of this either, but yeah. Overall it's different than the Finger Poke of Doom.
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Post by fw91 on Mar 14, 2016 16:54:54 GMT -5
because it was funny. From the commentary, to HHH running the ropes.
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Post by The Tank on Mar 14, 2016 17:16:43 GMT -5
It didn't end with all the bad guys and newly bad guys that were barely good to begin with beating the shit out of the one last credible good guy the company had.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 14, 2016 17:21:45 GMT -5
It was meant to show what juvenile assholes they were. And it definitely accomplished that. Was never set up to be a major angle, and was just funny
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Post by percymania on Mar 14, 2016 18:16:05 GMT -5
Yeah, this stunt doesn't compare well to the Fingerpoke of Doom. It wasn't the main event, it wasn't for the world title, it was a match DX was forced into, etc etc.
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Mar 14, 2016 18:54:27 GMT -5
Yeah, this stunt doesn't compare well to the Fingerpoke of Doom. It wasn't the main event, it wasn't for the world title, it was a match DX was forced into, etc etc. It was the main event but everything else is spot on.
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