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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 20, 2016 5:40:38 GMT -5
It was confirmed in a later interview after the fire incident at Elimination Chamber 2010 that Taker told officials backstage he "never wanted to see [that pyro operator] again." Unconfirmed: If Taker made said pyro operator disappear personally. Either Taker or Vince said something like "he goes or he dies"
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 20, 2016 8:45:59 GMT -5
Wrestlers court with actual witnesses? What a bunch of f***in nerds. And what did JBL ever do to get any stroke by the late 90s? Do some really solid jobs on Shotgun Saturday Night? Wrestlers are an odd bunch. It was all based on longevity with the Company, which is why when most of the Wrestler's Court stories come out It normally has Taker/Hunter as judge then The APA and Holly as the prosecution
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 20, 2016 8:49:21 GMT -5
IIRC, I read somewhere that Taker never confronted Shawn directly, but basically just talked out loud about how Shawn better do what's expected from him or else something bad could happen to him, while HHH and others "just happened" to be in earshot. Austin even said on the HBK DVD "Shawn didn't really want to drop that title to anybody." Also on the Triple H match collection he says his memories of Wrestlemania 14 aren't too happy, because his top job was to babysit Shawn and make sure he was there. forget everything I've ever said about the man, Triple H deserves everything good he gets.
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 20, 2016 11:50:59 GMT -5
As long as we can not compare military bullying, which has a purpose behind it and is used for a very real cause. Bullying is bullying. That's why I can't respect organizations that promote hazing and bullying. I agree. I'm just saying there's at least a difference between doing it because you need to win a war and DIZ BUSINESS bullying.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Mar 20, 2016 12:42:13 GMT -5
Shawn Stasiak was released for taping a conversation backstage. Stasiak has explained it as he was f***ing around and Steve Blackman found out and made a huge deal out of it. Wasn't it that Stasiak kept a recorder with him on the road and was taping conversations he had with guys in the car? I remember Davey Boy Smith being one of the guys recorded. I could be remembering it wrong, though.
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Post by TGM on Mar 20, 2016 13:23:10 GMT -5
Shawn Stasiak was released for taping a conversation backstage. Stasiak has explained it as he was f***ing around and Steve Blackman found out and made a huge deal out of it. Wasn't it that Stasiak kept a recorder with him on the road and was taping conversations he had with guys in the car? I remember Davey Boy Smith being one of the guys recorded. I could be remembering it wrong, though. I guess that makes sense, would have been around 1999. But I definitely remember him saying Steve Blackman was the one with a problem and Stasiak began to get scared because he didn't know Blackman too. I think it might have been in Powerslam magazine.
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Post by nate5054 on Mar 20, 2016 16:04:34 GMT -5
Ken Shamrock once for the crap beaten out if him by the Nasty Boys. Story goes that they were all out at a bar, and the Nasty Boys started harassing a wrestler's girlfriend. Shamrock told them to knock it off, and they started t mix it up. Later on Shamrock went up to their room to pick up where they had left off. One of the Nasty Boys pretended to be passed out in the bed while the other yanked the phone off the wall and hid in the closet. When Shamrock stormed in he jumped out and smacked him over the head with it. The two of them proceeded to beat the high holy crankit of Shamrock, to the pint his wife barely recognized him in the hospital. Years later Shamrock encountered them again in an airport. The two of them both turned completely chickenshit and begged him not to hurt them. Not that I condone violence and good for Shamrock for not beating the crap out of them I guess, but f*** those guys. I've always had a low opinion of Hogan for being friends with them.
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Post by nate5054 on Mar 20, 2016 16:06:39 GMT -5
A positive one, but everybody seems to love Glen Jacobs, and in this business of backstabbers and gossipers, I don't think I've ever heard a bad word about him. I was wondering the same thing. I've never heard a negative Kane story ever.
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Post by Throwback on Mar 20, 2016 16:15:28 GMT -5
When the Hardy's won the WWE Tag Titles from the APA in 1999, Michael PS Hayes was their manager for a short period of time, and the short period of time is probably due to this story. On a drunk Plane Ride, not the one from Hell, Hayes decided that the Tag Team Champions deserved first class seats, and he himself collectively thought of himself as a Tag Team Champion, so he and the Hardy's, who were very reluctant to do so, took three first class seats on the plane that weren't theirs. And the seat Jeff Hardy was assigned to? Belonged to Kane. Kane had arrived to the plane late because he was waiting for D'Lo Brown at the gate, he had his ticket. Upon arriving to see Hardy had taken his seat, Jeff wanted to give it back to him, but Kane said it was fine and went back to sit in coach. Again no secret, Glenn Jacobs is a very nice man luckily for all three of them... Kane had a reputation for getting uncomfortable on Planes, especially on coach due to his height, so when Veterans, especially his good friend Taker heard about this, he punished the Hardy's and brought the hammer down on Hayes for the move as he was mostly to blame. Hayes was not allowed in First Class for a long time and soon lost his spot with the Hardy's altogether, taking the pinfall which would cost them the tag titles even, and the Hardy's apparently were tasked to rib Don ‘the Jackyl’ Callis, one of those "Nuclear Heat" stories on behalf of the veterans. According to the Hardy's biography, they only had to buy Kane dinner while Hayes carried his bags for a week yeah. Ribbing The jackyll (who is named in the book only as Monkey) was punishment for the not drinking and driving. APA ordered them to buy beer and drink it while driving to the next town and throw their empties at the speed signs along the way. A very wise decision not to take that order. So their punishment was to shove toothpicks into the keyholes of Jackll's rented car forcing him to have to get in the car through the trunk.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Mar 20, 2016 16:19:01 GMT -5
There are certain gues, sadly few and far between, that everyone just loves. Jacobs seems to be one of them, and I totally get it. Put people over selflessly? Check. Not "stiff the balls out of new guys"? CHeck. Get the most abominable shit over so that it doesn't get dumped on others? Check. Also, a Pink Floyd fan, apparently, so that's a plus for me. Apparently he was so nice to Stacy Keibler when she came over from WCW that she developed a crush on him, and he turned her down due to being married. Kane's just that dude. Kane had Stacy freakin' Keibler crushing on him and had to break her heart by saying no?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 20, 2016 16:26:38 GMT -5
Bullying is bullying. That's why I can't respect organizations that promote hazing and bullying. I agree. I'm just saying there's at least a difference between doing it because you need to win a war and DIZ BUSINESS bullying. This whole conversation is based on something that wasn't true. It was Daivari talking about himself and wanting to do the squats with Benoit to impress him.
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Post by angryfan on Mar 20, 2016 16:35:03 GMT -5
You know, it's funny, we hear time and time and time again how "Dis Bizniss" is all about "if you're not trying to be the top guy, if you're not trying to keep that spot, you don't want it bad enough", and yet the guys with the almost spotless records for class, the guys who everyone seems to look up to, admire, put over, and just love are so often the guys who were the opposite of this bullshit mentality.
Take a guy like Kane, a guy like Bossman for another one, and you've got guys who were never the top draw, never the biggest names and stars and moneymakers, didn't have endless "top guy with the title" runs, but...they did their jobs. They were and are PROFESSIONALS. Hell, even some of the truly tough and badass guys like a Dan Hodge, who could, should they choose, beat anyone on any given night legit, and just take the top spot out of shear ability, and yet they choose to do business, to work their ass off with what they're given, make it work however they can, get over and get their opponent over at the same time, and...I think that should be the true mark of greatness.
I remember a quote from Lance Storm once, who said "I never wanted to be the top guy, the greatest compliment was someone saying I'm a safe worker and I can make others look good out there".
I get it, it's not cool to say that in the grand scheme of "Am I going over" and all that, but...to me those are the guys I will always be drawn to, because they just get it.
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Post by Ryushinku on Mar 20, 2016 16:45:28 GMT -5
It's WCW related, but I always liked this one. Late in 2000, Sting and Booker T are set to tag against the young power team of Jindrak and O'Haire, who are real green but trying to impress. They have a big spot where they double hip toss an opponent from the floor outside into the ring, over the top rope. Sting is gung ho wanting to take this spot. Thing is, they've only ever done it with cruiserweights and for obvious reasons, as even with the push-off it requires a big vertical leap and flexibility. Sting at this point is around 41 and a genuine heavyweight. Nash and Lance Storm overhear about this and spent several minutes telling Sting up and down that it's a terrible idea and not to do it for risk of injury. Match goes ahead, and at one point Sting ends up on the floor. Sting does the spot and barely makes it, catching the back of his head on the top rope and landing hard on his ass. Though, he did make it. Backstage, Lance and Nash stare boggle-eyed at each other and yell "What about the double hip toss?!" Pressed about it afterwards, Sting replied "I just wanted to get those kids over." Storm talked about the whole thing on one of his website commentaries many years ago.
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Post by Ryushinku on Mar 20, 2016 16:46:58 GMT -5
I remember a quote from Lance Storm once, who said "I never wanted to be the top guy, the greatest compliment was someone saying I'm a safe worker and I can make others look good out there". And Lance had that fantastic quote where he said "I'd trust Hulk Hogan to punch my kids", he was such a safe worker.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Mar 20, 2016 18:24:00 GMT -5
I read this story from the book Titan Sinking. From before WM 11
“THE EVENING before WrestleMania, Vince sent a memo around that instructed his entire crew to convene first thing in the morning at the arena. There were predictable grumblings, with the performers unhappy that their night of pre-show decadence would have to be cut short because of the early wake-up call. The unofficial rule amongst many of the boys was that when it came to doing pay-per-view, having a hangover was a prerequisite because it made you sulky and focussed. Of course, the risk was that someone would go too far and be in no condition to perform come show time, but Vince's meeting made sure there would be little chance of that. Sure enough, everyone was accounted for on that dreary Sunday morning, tired, but for the most part sober.
The boys sat with sunglasses covering their heavy eyes, sipping black coffee from the local Starbucks while wondering what was so urgent that Vince had dragged them out of bed at the crack of dawn. Those who had known McMahon for a while had a good inkling; the meeting wasn't about anything at all. It was simply a front to keep everyone in check and make sure there were no major problems caused by someone having a little too much fun the night before the biggest show of the year. "I betcha Vince doesn't even show," whispered Paul Bearer to no one in particular, and sure enough, he didn't. Instead J.J. Dillon wandered into the room, and told the amassed throng that Vince wasn't coming, but he just wanted to tell them all to have a good show. It was classic McMahon; keeping his troops in check and running things from afar under his authoritarian rule.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Mar 20, 2016 18:49:36 GMT -5
There are certain gues, sadly few and far between, that everyone just loves. Jacobs seems to be one of them, and I totally get it. Put people over selflessly? Check. Not "stiff the balls out of new guys"? CHeck. Get the most abominable shit over so that it doesn't get dumped on others? Check. Also, a Pink Floyd fan, apparently, so that's a plus for me. Apparently he was so nice to Stacy Keibler when she came over from WCW that she developed a crush on him, and he turned her down due to being married. Kane's just that dude. That's actually adorable, Kane is a gigantic softy and Stacy developed a crush on him because of that.
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Post by Stu on Mar 20, 2016 19:31:27 GMT -5
I read this story from the book Titan Sinking. From before WM 11 “THE EVENING before WrestleMania, Vince sent a memo around that instructed his entire crew to convene first thing in the morning at the arena. There were predictable grumblings, with the performers unhappy that their night of pre-show decadence would have to be cut short because of the early wake-up call. The unofficial rule amongst many of the boys was that when it came to doing pay-per-view, having a hangover was a prerequisite because it made you sulky and focussed. Of course, the risk was that someone would go too far and be in no condition to perform come show time, but Vince's meeting made sure there would be little chance of that. Sure enough, everyone was accounted for on that dreary Sunday morning, tired, but for the most part sober. The boys sat with sunglasses covering their heavy eyes, sipping black coffee from the local Starbucks while wondering what was so urgent that Vince had dragged them out of bed at the crack of dawn. Those who had known McMahon for a while had a good inkling; the meeting wasn't about anything at all. It was simply a front to keep everyone in check and make sure there were no major problems caused by someone having a little too much fun the night before the biggest show of the year. "I betcha Vince doesn't even show," whispered Paul Bearer to no one in particular, and sure enough, he didn't. Instead J.J. Dillon wandered into the room, and told the amassed throng that Vince wasn't coming, but he just wanted to tell them all to have a good show. It was classic McMahon; keeping his troops in check and running things from afar under his authoritarian rule. Who wrote the book? Apparently he was so nice to Stacy Keibler when she came over from WCW that she developed a crush on him, and he turned her down due to being married. Kane's just that dude. That's actually adorable, Kane is a gigantic softy and Stacy developed a crush on him because of that. So in the end, George Clooney ended up dating the girl who was rejected by Kane.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 20, 2016 19:32:44 GMT -5
It's WCW related, but I always liked this one. Late in 2000, Sting and Booker T are set to tag against the young power team of Jindrak and O'Haire, who are real green but trying to impress. They have a big spot where they double hip toss an opponent from the floor outside into the ring, over the top rope. Sting is gung ho wanting to take this spot. Thing is, they've only ever done it with cruiserweights and for obvious reasons, as even with the push-off it requires a big vertical leap and flexibility. Sting at this point is around 41 and a genuine heavyweight. Nash and Lance Storm overhear about this and spent several minutes telling Sting up and down that it's a terrible idea and not to do it for risk of injury. Match goes ahead, and at one point Sting ends up on the floor. Sting does the spot and barely makes it, catching the back of his head on the top rope and landing hard on his ass. Though, he did make it. Backstage, Lance and Nash stare boggle-eyed at each other and yell "What about the double hip toss?!" Pressed about it afterwards, Sting replied "I just wanted to get those kids over." Storm talked about the whole thing on one of his website commentaries many years ago. reminds me of Punk telling Rusev to beat the shit out of him at RR 14
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 19:37:08 GMT -5
It's WCW related, but I always liked this one. Late in 2000, Sting and Booker T are set to tag against the young power team of Jindrak and O'Haire, who are real green but trying to impress. They have a big spot where they double hip toss an opponent from the floor outside into the ring, over the top rope. Sting is gung ho wanting to take this spot. Thing is, they've only ever done it with cruiserweights and for obvious reasons, as even with the push-off it requires a big vertical leap and flexibility. Sting at this point is around 41 and a genuine heavyweight. Nash and Lance Storm overhear about this and spent several minutes telling Sting up and down that it's a terrible idea and not to do it for risk of injury. Match goes ahead, and at one point Sting ends up on the floor. Sting does the spot and barely makes it, catching the back of his head on the top rope and landing hard on his ass. Though, he did make it. Backstage, Lance and Nash stare boggle-eyed at each other and yell "What about the double hip toss?!" Pressed about it afterwards, Sting replied "I just wanted to get those kids over." Storm talked about the whole thing on one of his website commentaries many years ago. reminds me of Punk telling Rusev to beat the shit out of him at RR 14 Honestly the amazing thing about the Punk / Rusev story is nowadays, you'd never know it because Rusev is terrific at making moments memorable and doing little things to really make himself stand out. It comes off like he really learned from that.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 20, 2016 19:44:11 GMT -5
reminds me of Punk telling Rusev to beat the shit out of him at RR 14 Honestly the amazing thing about the Punk / Rusev story is nowadays, you'd never know it because Rusev is terrific at making moments memorable and doing little things to really make himself stand out. It comes off like he really learned from that. If you come in and immediately take out one of the big fish, people will notice you.
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