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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 1, 2016 3:43:17 GMT -5
Back in his episode of Jericho's podcast, Chris was telling a story about how hard it took for Big Show to be taken seriously again and rehabing his image with the Jerishow team and how a short time later, he did a segment wearing a diaper for a New Year's Eve segment. Jericho got mad that his hard work meant nothing because Big Show lost credibility as a main eventer again.
I remember his debut, he pretty much began on the main card, but a short time later he was doing skits as fat bastard from Austin Powers.
I don't get this guy, he has received numerous chances to be a main eventer, but he ruins them by doing stupid comedy that ends up burying him.
Why does he lets himself be booked that way? Like Punk and Jericho both have ripped appart scripts that they considered stupid, in front of the writers I might add. Why does the big show have to say yes to everything? Look at Undertaker, he would never accept to wear a diaper or be covered in shit, or be mocked by Val Venis for having a small dick.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 1, 2016 3:44:37 GMT -5
$$$
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 1, 2016 3:46:46 GMT -5
Judging by the Austin podcasts, he doesn't particularly care for when they try to push him as a serious monster type (especially when he has to keep putting over his size) because that's not his real personality. He honestly prefers doing the goofy shit.
(And even HE'S frustrated by all the constant turning)
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Post by FinalGwen on Apr 1, 2016 3:46:50 GMT -5
Because it's pretty much the only role that people seem to actually enjoy him in? I'll take ridiculous-face-making silly Big Show over srs-heel-turn for the billionth time. At least heel Jericho has always varied up his motivations and general style, but heel Big Show hasn't been fresh and exciting since The Dungeon Of Doom.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 1, 2016 3:47:49 GMT -5
He briefly addressed this in his recent Austin podcast. He's a company man that doesn't say no, even if it conflicts with his best interests.
Besides, Big Show is actually a funny dude, so he can actually do some comedy in between monster heel runs. The diaper segment was a little too much though, and too recent after a main event run.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 1, 2016 3:49:01 GMT -5
He briefly addressed this in his recent Austin podcast. He's a company man that doesn't say no, even if it conflicts with his best interests. Besides, Big Show is actually a funny dude, so he can actually do some comedy in between monster heel runs. The diaper segment was a little too much though, and too recent after a main event run. Too recent is putting it lightly... He was #1 Contender for the world title at the previous PPV.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Apr 1, 2016 3:54:14 GMT -5
Unless WWE did multiple Big Show baby segments, Jericho's got his timeline all messed up. Jerishow broke up in January of 2010, while the diaper segment was meant to ring in 2014; it was right after we had the crying, Dusty punching, strip mall investing, "I'll trade my massive and very viable lawsuit for a WWE Title match even though I know they're going to screw me out of it" gimmick. I mean, the fact they stuffed him in a diaper for that segment was f***ing stupid, but that was not Jericho's hard work being flushed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 4:09:21 GMT -5
Yeah you need to listen to the Austin podcast that came out this week, Show talks a lot about his booking. He's stated this before but the thing with him is that he's a giant. No matter how goofy he can be the fact he's so big can immediately put him in a main event program. Beyond that, Show can do anything. Midcard, main eventer, face, heel, goofy, serious, emotional, commentary, in the ring, working with the crowd, going against the crowd, whatever you need him to do he can do. It's rare to have someone who can hit every single area like that. The fact he's so versatile is the reason he's booked this way. He's a company man so he has no problem with it. Besides, he loves helping make guys, he loves being the guy that gets someone to the next level, teaching them things.
A guy like Big Show is a great hand to have. His booking might not be the best but guaranteed if you have a face and they go over Show even at his lowest point it's always meant something.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 1, 2016 4:10:29 GMT -5
Because who gives a shit about credibility?
Okay, I am a musician and a writer and I understand the perspective many have (including me to some degree) that art is suffering, and that you should back your art.
But if you're asking me to choose between credibility and earning enough money so that no-one in my family will have to work again for generations, or have to suffer through the poverty that my family experienced when I was young, then give me the f***ing diaper and sit me under the shit chute.
Credibility and creativity don't pay the rent.
Big Show has a family, and more money than I will ever see in my entire life. He is happy. He knows his character has been written like shit, and he could not care less, and that is an enviable position to be in.
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Post by Sephiroth on Apr 1, 2016 7:19:49 GMT -5
Because he's actually a pretty laid back guy, he's neing paid through the nose, and he is secure in the knowledge he could probably snap most of the roster in half anytime he wished.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 1, 2016 7:49:42 GMT -5
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Apr 1, 2016 7:53:24 GMT -5
I think people put way too much stock in how much someone on the roster can influence Vince.
You can be there for as long as you want and be the most respected person in the locker room, at the end of the day, what goes on TV goes through Vince.
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Post by Snaptastic on Apr 1, 2016 8:37:56 GMT -5
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Post by joeiscool on Apr 1, 2016 8:42:56 GMT -5
I think in general he's a guy that's just happy to be there, and will work his butt off to make anything he's given work...
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Apr 1, 2016 8:43:37 GMT -5
Show seems like a guy who enjoys having fun and a laugh. I can honestly see him enjoying doing the goofy, comedy type shit way more than a SRS heel. I don't blame him if acting like a giant goofball is what he enjoys, keep acting like a giant goofball.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 1, 2016 8:50:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 9:01:04 GMT -5
Because who gives a shit about credibility? Okay, I am a musician and a writer and I understand the perspective many have (including me to some degree) that art is suffering, and that you should back your art. But if you're asking me to choose between credibility and earning enough money so that no-one in my family will have to work again for generations, or have to suffer through the poverty that my family experienced when I was young, then give me the f***ing diaper and sit me under the shit chute. Credibility and creativity don't pay the rent. You talk about choosing between credibility and money, but credibility is money in wrasslin. Credibility creates the main eventers who make the most money. Big Show + sensible booking could have been a much bigger draw. Of money. I don't hold it against Show for towing the company line, because 1. He's not the first guy to do that. 2. I don't care enough about Big Show at this point to hold a grudge against him. But I won't disagree that his potential was squandered over the years. That's all this thread is about.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 1, 2016 10:18:15 GMT -5
Because who gives a shit about credibility? Okay, I am a musician and a writer and I understand the perspective many have (including me to some degree) that art is suffering, and that you should back your art. But if you're asking me to choose between credibility and earning enough money so that no-one in my family will have to work again for generations, or have to suffer through the poverty that my family experienced when I was young, then give me the f***ing diaper and sit me under the shit chute. Credibility and creativity don't pay the rent. You talk about choosing between credibility and money, but credibility is money in wrasslin. Credibility creates the main eventers who make the most money. Big Show + sensible booking could have been a much bigger draw. Of money. I don't hold it against Show for towing the company line, because 1. He's not the first guy to do that. 2. I don't care enough about Big Show at this point to hold a grudge against him. But I won't disagree that his potential was squandered over the years. That's all this thread is about. Maybe not in Show's case, but for a lot of these guys, you say no, someone else will do it instead.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 10:27:11 GMT -5
Big Show has that good quality of actually looking like he's enjoying what he's doing as a face (HE'S HAVIN' FUN, MAGGLE). You can tell that he's phoning in his heel work, and that seriously contributes to the boredom.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 1, 2016 10:29:46 GMT -5
Big Show right now
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