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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Apr 2, 2016 2:33:56 GMT -5
Then that just adds to Finn rising up from behind the barricade with anger and intensity. Good way to play off of it. I agree. When he raised up I said to myself "shit just got real!" you could see it on Finn's face, too. That was the one thing that the stoppages kind of bummed me out about, the match flowed fine, but the emotion kept getting sucked out of it. Had they just been able to build off of that early intensity, it would have crescendo'd alot nicer at the end with a more invested crowd.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 2, 2016 2:52:18 GMT -5
If it were anywhere but around the eye, I would have kept it going. But once possible vision impairment is a factor, then that's a danger to the overall safety of both the man bleeding and his opponent, and the last thing we need is more injuries because of a bloody eye being left untreated. They made the right call, momentum of the match be damned.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Apr 2, 2016 3:42:26 GMT -5
I'll say what I said in the thread while it was happening. Drake Wuertz deserves all the credit in the universe for tonight. Though it might be annoying for our blood lust, he was watching that cut like a hawk from the moment it happened and never missed a thing. Beyond just officiating the match, it's the refs job to help keep both dudes safe, and he did everything that a great ref should do. He's a guy who made a career from bleeding, now it's his job to clean up everyone else's blood. Upgrade!
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Post by chazraps on Apr 2, 2016 4:01:55 GMT -5
A person's eye is more important than any match.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 2, 2016 5:45:43 GMT -5
That was the absolute worst place for a cut to happen. On the thin skin above the eyelid. Even stitches are gonna have a hard time keeping that closed, and look how hard he's bleeding when he dives to the outside.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Apr 2, 2016 6:15:31 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a good thing they tended to it, but it did add to the match. Made Joe look like even more of a monster.
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Post by bearned on Apr 2, 2016 7:21:14 GMT -5
It sucked because it ruined the flow of the match but it did make Joe look like a complete monster.
Clearly they needed to do something about the cut so not going to complain too much about the medics interrupting. Would have been ten times worse if Joe had botched a move and hurt Balor or himself because he couldn't see.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 2, 2016 7:23:02 GMT -5
Health is more important. I don't need blood. The "fake" blood Triple H used on Roman a few weeks ago was just as effective.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 7:27:54 GMT -5
If it was too serious to continue, they should've just ended the match early. Better than constantly completely breaking up the momentum of it.
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Post by Bo Rida on Apr 2, 2016 7:35:10 GMT -5
I'm fine with them temporarily halting the match if the location or severity of the cut warrants it but not with them stopping the action five times. It ruins the flow of the match but half-assing the treatment even doesn't even stop the flow of the blood so what's the point?
They need to find an acceptable way of dealing with it. Maybe introduce a clear rule where a match can be halted for blood once at the referees discretion. That would allow the medics to patch up the wrestler properly, the crowd would know what's going on, things would only stop once and neither wrestler has to stand around awkwardly while the match is technically still ongoing.
You'd have the issue of what happens if they cut re-opens but they rushed to a finish anyway so I guess nothing really changes, just end the match quickly as possible or call it off.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Apr 2, 2016 8:51:20 GMT -5
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Post by xCompackx on Apr 2, 2016 9:22:39 GMT -5
I'm fine with them temporarily halting the match if the location or severity of the cut warrants it but not with them stopping the action five times. It ruins the flow of the match but half-assing the treatment even doesn't even stop the flow of the blood so what's the point? They need to find an acceptable way of dealing with it. Maybe introduce a clear rule where a match can be halted for blood once at the referees discretion. That would allow the medics to patch up the wrestler properly, the crowd would know what's going on, things would only stop once and neither wrestler has to stand around awkwardly while the match is technically still ongoing. You'd have the issue of what happens if they cut re-opens but they rushed to a finish anyway so I guess nothing really changes, just end the match quickly as possible or call it off. I doubt there's a whole lot they could do to permanently stop the bleeding in the middle of a match. Even if they halted the match for 10 minutes, one punch could open it back up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 9:35:55 GMT -5
I'm fine with them temporarily halting the match if the location or severity of the cut warrants it but not with them stopping the action five times. It ruins the flow of the match but half-assing the treatment even doesn't even stop the flow of the blood so what's the point? They need to find an acceptable way of dealing with it. Maybe introduce a clear rule where a match can be halted for blood once at the referees discretion. That would allow the medics to patch up the wrestler properly, the crowd would know what's going on, things would only stop once and neither wrestler has to stand around awkwardly while the match is technically still ongoing. You'd have the issue of what happens if they cut re-opens but they rushed to a finish anyway so I guess nothing really changes, just end the match quickly as possible or call it off. I doubt there's a whole lot they could do to permanently stop the bleeding in the middle of a match. Even if they halted the match for 10 minutes, one punch could open it back up. They somehow got it to stop after like the 5th stoppage, didn't they? Towards the end it looked like they got it taken care of. I think the stoppages before, they couldn't figure out what to do because it was right on his eye. Other times they've glued the cut or stapled it right on the spot. It being his eye, can't really do that. They needed a boxing corner man, or me on Fight Night Round 3. As for a punch opening it back up, I think that's where being a pro comes into play and you make damn sure not to hit that cut. Of course, the style is more hectic now and the blows are less exact, it's more up to the recipient to protect themselves.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Apr 2, 2016 9:40:10 GMT -5
For me it didn't ruin the flow at all. If anything it added to it, made Joe look like more of a badass getting pissed off.
The chants on the other hand made the fans seem like idiots.
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Post by JCBaggee on Apr 2, 2016 14:02:17 GMT -5
So basically, bleeding in matches boils down to three things for me...
1) No one has hep 2) No one is losing, like, ALL their blood 3) No one is blading
That being said, Joe's was an eye injury, so tending to it was necessary. Obstructing his vision could have led to way worse problems.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 2, 2016 15:26:02 GMT -5
So basically, bleeding in matches boils down to three things for me... 1) No one has hep 2) No one is losing, like, ALL their blood 3) No one is blading That being said, Joe's was an eye injury, so tending to it was necessary. Obstructing his vision could have led to way worse problems. Yeah, he did a suicide dive with one eye full of blood. that was dangerous enough off its own back
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Post by ManInGauze on Apr 2, 2016 15:38:51 GMT -5
If it was too serious to continue, they should've just ended the match early. Better than constantly completely breaking up the momentum of it. I don't think ending the main event match due to bleeding would be in the WWE's best interest. That'd piss those fans off even more. The cut was a dangerous cut and was hardway, so I think the tending to it was perfectly fine. The flow was thrown off a bit at the beginning, but they were good enough workers to get things back on track. The fans at least had the decorum to get re-invested without getting hung up on things being stopped due to a dangerous hardway cut, but f*** PG amirite lololo xDDD
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