Perfect Timing
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Post by Perfect Timing on Apr 17, 2016 18:23:07 GMT -5
I wasn't really watching WCW back then it seems to me his gimmick was cheesy just like John Cena/Hulk Hogan so did the crowd get sick of him and was that the reason he turned into Crow Sting?
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Post by edgestar on Apr 17, 2016 18:30:06 GMT -5
I'm sure someone wore something that attracted him
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 17, 2016 18:36:53 GMT -5
I wasn't really watching WCW back then it seems to me his gimmick was cheesy just like John Cena/Hulk Hogan so did the crowd get sick of him and was that the reason he turned into Crow Sting? Nope not really. Sting also had a huge gap between his world title reings as his win over Hogan in 97 was his 3rd world title reign. Sting pretty much went into upper midcard from 94 until the nWo invaded. Hell he spent most of 95 and 96 trying to get Savage and Hulk to trust Luger.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 17, 2016 18:42:00 GMT -5
I wasn't really watching WCW back then it seems to me his gimmick was cheesy just like John Cena/Hulk Hogan so did the crowd get sick of him and was that the reason he turned into Crow Sting? He was always over as a face. He turned into the Crow Sting as a freshing up his character which is a smart thing to do to not get stale, and the angle went that the NWO brought in the fake Sting that attacked Luger in the parking lot. Luger questioned Sting Loyalty and everyone else followed. So the looked make him look like a loner or an outcast. Since Hogan was the NWO leader and started it all so to speak, and deep down Sting was still a WCW loyalist he made his Uncensored 97 choice and it lead him at the end targeting Hogan to be the WCW savor.
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Post by MrElijah on Apr 17, 2016 18:53:19 GMT -5
I wasn't really watching WCW back then it seems to me his gimmick was cheesy just like John Cena/Hulk Hogan so did the crowd get sick of him and was that the reason he turned into Crow Sting? Nope not really. Sting also had a huge gap between his world title reings as his win over Hogan in 97 was his 3rd world title reign. Sting pretty much went into upper midcard from 94 until the nWo invaded. Hell he spent most of 95 and 96 trying to get Savage and Hulk to trust Luger. It was his 6th. '90 for his 1st, '92 for his second, a short run in '93 and two runs with the International Heavyweight title in '94.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 17, 2016 19:00:21 GMT -5
Only time the crowd turned on him was when they rejected his heel turns far as I can recall.
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Post by somsta on Apr 17, 2016 19:01:26 GMT -5
Multiple times. But he kept trusting them.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Apr 18, 2016 9:27:01 GMT -5
Sting was also never booked as superhumanly as Hogan and Cena, he lost a fair bit, often cleanly-ish.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 18, 2016 9:33:33 GMT -5
I'd add that though the gimmick change from surfer to crow freshened up Sting it wasn't like he wasn't over anymore. It was part of one of the best angles WCW ever did with Luger & Sting aligning with the Horsemen to take on the nWo and the WCW side believing that fake Sting was Sting and that Sting had joined the nWo. This lead to Sting being a "free agent" for months who would take out guys from both sides until he revealed himself as clearly anti-nWo. Of course we never got the proper pay off but the spark of the angle was brilliant.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Apr 18, 2016 11:00:03 GMT -5
His act might have worn thin if Hogan didn't come in and demand the spotlight. Getting pushed down the card and being a true WCW guy kept the fans firmly in his corner.
Also, guy was born to be cheered. Sting, Steamboat and Sami Zayn just have that believable babyface fire that makes you root for them always.
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Post by Sad sack ass fruitbooty on Apr 18, 2016 11:07:13 GMT -5
Slamboree 94, there was a small section chanting "Sting must die" in his match against Vader. This was in philly, however.
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Post by SmashTV on Apr 18, 2016 11:50:04 GMT -5
I think that Ric Flair mentioned in his book that a crowd in New York (I think, although you'd think it was a WWF stronghold) cheered Flair and taunted Sting. Apparently Sting was quite aware of this and taunted the crowd back.
This is the exception rather than the rule, of course.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 18, 2016 12:13:54 GMT -5
How could they turn on him when he did this and he did that? When he was big as a bull and quick as a cat?
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Post by thecrusherwi on Apr 18, 2016 12:53:55 GMT -5
Sting was also never booked as superhumanly as Hogan and Cena, he lost a fair bit, often cleanly-ish. I think Meltzer talked in the observer about a survey done comparing WCW and WWF fans and it found that WCW fans were much more likely to be fans of real sports. I absolutely believe it because it makes sense why they were so loyal to people booked like Sting for so many years. If you're a real sports fan, you can get behind his booking even though he almost always disappoints you. My favorite sports team of any kind is the Green Bay Packers and they have been remarkably successful in my lifetime. Yet in all but 2 of the nearly 25 years that I've watched them, they lost the big game at the end. Yet you come back for more the next time around hoping this will be the time they win the big one. If you are not a sports fan, and instead follow more storytelling entertainment like movies and comics, the heroes don't lose that often. And when they do, it's to set up a big win later. It's my theory as to why WWF crowds over the years would often abandon someone who lost too much.
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Post by MrElijah on Apr 18, 2016 13:42:39 GMT -5
How could they turn on him when he did this and he did that? When he was big as a bull and quick as a cat? He looked fine AND he looked cool. How the hell anybody can top that?!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 13:58:13 GMT -5
Sting was also never booked as superhumanly as Hogan and Cena, he lost a fair bit, often cleanly-ish. I think Meltzer talked in the observer about a survey done comparing WCW and WWF fans and it found that WCW fans were much more likely to be fans of real sports. I absolutely believe it because it makes sense why they were so loyal to people booked like Sting for so many years. If you're a real sports fan, you can get behind his booking even though he almost always disappoints you. My favorite sports team of any kind is the Green Bay Packers and they have been remarkably successful in my lifetime. Yet in all but 2 of the nearly 25 years that I've watched them, they lost the big game at the end. Yet you come back for more the next time around hoping this will be the time they win the big one. If you are not a sports fan, and instead follow more storytelling entertainment like movies and comics, the heroes don't lose that often. And when they do, it's to set up a big win later. It's my theory as to why WWF crowds over the years would often abandon someone who lost too much. I wonder. Does Vince McMahon like sports? Does he like comics? He is very strict about the word "entertainment". And saiys they make "movies". You make a lot of sense, I love you.
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Post by auph10imitated on Apr 19, 2016 3:32:47 GMT -5
Sting didn't monopolise the main event like Hogan and Cena. Even though Hogan and Cena had breaks, alot of the time it didnt feel as if they had, while Sting was bounced from mid card to main, to mid card to main quite a lot and by the summer of 1994 Hogan had arrived and Sting remained in the mid card until the nWo arrived.
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