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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 18, 2016 15:28:11 GMT -5
Well, I can tell y ou that back in the day they were, um, politely asked to leave the ECW locker room by a, shall we say, displeased Raven and, um, dis-sobered Sandman. Then New Jack got involved, and they (wisely) departed. Seems they showed up showing off the brand new SS tats, very proud of them, and it went over about as well as expected. Top it all off, just read that the twins are the owners of the company that wants to buy TNA, so...yeah. Yeah this is the kind of stuff I wanna know about. But it just raises more questions. This places their nazi branding before even their WWF run, so it was already known in locker rooms just what the f*** these two are. Yet there they were... gettng hired by one prominent company after another.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 18, 2016 15:39:07 GMT -5
How did they keep getting hired is what I want to know. It's not like they were mega-talents or huge draws that would offset their disgusting beliefs. Why did promoters keep bringing them in-I can't imagine that being a good PR move. I'm assuming that their logic was "they're aren't mega talents or huge draws, so no one would give enough of a shit about them to care/notice that they're Nazis".
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Apr 18, 2016 15:40:47 GMT -5
I think it's just a case of they were friends with the right people, especially their WCW run. I have to imagine being buddy buddy with Jarrett as he was on the rise in that promotion opened a pretty big door, regardless of their...views.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 15:44:42 GMT -5
Well, I can tell y ou that back in the day they were, um, politely asked to leave the ECW locker room by a, shall we say, displeased Raven and, um, dis-sobered Sandman. Then New Jack got involved, and they (wisely) departed. Seems they showed up showing off the brand new SS tats, very proud of them, and it went over about as well as expected. Top it all off, just read that the twins are the owners of the company that wants to buy TNA, so...yeah. Yeah this is the kind of stuff I wanna know about. But it just raises more questions. This places their nazi branding before even their WWF run, so it was already known in locker rooms just what the f*** these two are. Yet there they were... gettng hired by one prominent company after another. Wrestling is a carny buisiness and in the 90's it was still being ran by bunch of old stock carnys that didn't care of what you are as long you didn't bring too much trouble to work and the public as long they found use in you. The whole landscape of wrestling has changed within the last twenty years from the wrestlers, promoters, the fans, and even the public perception of fans. Wrestlers went from broken down college/pro athletes and poor blue collared guys who never wanted to work a real job to a bunch of dorky nerds who grew up as marks and became athletic later in life (Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, The New Day, etc). Hell the negative stereotype of wrestling fans went from hillbilly trailer trash to bunch of nerdy man children. Hell even Vince has progressed from a straight up carny to a more progressive carny due to becoming corporate and being more worried about public perception. Like as out of touch he is, he was pretty ahead in the curve of digital social media age and how easy and fast scandals can happen. Like Havoc and Seth Rollins girlfriend would of stayed employeed in the 90's
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Post by angryfan on Apr 18, 2016 15:51:48 GMT -5
Well, I can tell y ou that back in the day they were, um, politely asked to leave the ECW locker room by a, shall we say, displeased Raven and, um, dis-sobered Sandman. Then New Jack got involved, and they (wisely) departed. Seems they showed up showing off the brand new SS tats, very proud of them, and it went over about as well as expected. Top it all off, just read that the twins are the owners of the company that wants to buy TNA, so...yeah. Yeah this is the kind of stuff I wanna know about. But it just raises more questions. This places their nazi branding before even their WWF run, so it was already known in locker rooms just what the f*** these two are. Yet there they were... gettng hired by one prominent company after another. Well, meeting them once, Pillman '99, they were personable to me, and I didn't notice any uncomfortable interactions with the other guys. Still, getting hired with such obvious branding of their beliefs on a national stage over and over again, maybe the hope was that most people wouldn't notice the tats or know what they meant.
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Post by Heinz Doofenschmirtz on Apr 18, 2016 17:10:45 GMT -5
Maybe the tattoos were after they worked in the big companies, I don't think Heyman would've employed neo nazis knowingly, but then again he would do anything for a buck.
Ludvig Borga also had similar tattoos, but the wwf made him cover them up.
I think that the only way they kept employment was because they were close to guys in power, like Taker and Jarrett. Kinda wish that Bad News Brown had retired ten years later, so he could've cross paths with those pricks...I think we all know how that would've turned out. Bad News wasn't to be f***ed with.
I love the fact that Bad News Brown became a security guard in a mall after he retired. Scariest Mall Cop in the world and of all time. I was living in Airdrie (the city said mall was in) at the time. He was so good with the public. He never once had to fight. He'd talk them down every time. Solid guy.
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Apr 18, 2016 17:12:50 GMT -5
I think it's just a case of they were friends with the right people, especially their WCW run. I have to imagine being buddy buddy with Jarrett as he was on the rise in that promotion opened a pretty big door, regardless of their...views. Yeah they were tight with JJ Also there's rumours about JJ and his father being racists. Wouldn't be surprised about Dixie as well
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 18, 2016 17:28:24 GMT -5
Yeah this is the kind of stuff I wanna know about. But it just raises more questions. This places their nazi branding before even their WWF run, so it was already known in locker rooms just what the f*** these two are. Yet there they were... gettng hired by one prominent company after another. Well, meeting them once, Pillman '99, they were personable to me, and I didn't notice any uncomfortable interactions with the other guys. Still, getting hired with such obvious branding of their beliefs on a national stage over and over again, maybe the hope was that most people wouldn't notice the tats or know what they meant. The tattoos have been covered up since the mid-90s, though the one twin did them no favors by wearing that shirt in the early days of TNA.
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 18, 2016 17:55:37 GMT -5
Forget the tattoos, how did they keep getting brought back to WWF without ever getting over the first and second time? I can understand WCW and TNA bringing them, considering it seems like they HAD to bring in former WWF wrestlers but...Blu Twins? Grimm Twins? DOA? Times like that make me wonder how much control Vince does have over WWE. Surely he wouldn't keep on guys who NEVER get over and have no minor talent other than being Twins. I guess that was always they selling point for Vince.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Apr 18, 2016 18:04:05 GMT -5
I always wondered how they got jobs anywhere because their work was so awful.
The only gimmick I see working for them is to put them in brown masks, boots, and bodysuits and call them the Drizzling Shits.
I think I have an idea for the next game of EWR I play.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 18, 2016 18:08:25 GMT -5
Come on guys! This is SSo overblown.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 18, 2016 18:18:15 GMT -5
Forget the tattoos, how did they keep getting brought back to WWF without ever getting over the first and second time? To be fair, almost nobody got over in the 1995 WWF midcard due to ridiculous all the gimmicks were.
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Post by Juice on Apr 18, 2016 19:43:33 GMT -5
Wrestling is a carny business thats been famous for racism qnd the like. I know that 2016 is a progressive time, but that doesn't mean we have to over think the years that came before it. A sleazy business employed sleazy people. Is there really much else to ponder?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 21:39:19 GMT -5
imgur.com/a/jdwsCGot this album link off Reddit. In the first one you can see one of their's SS tattoo as it was being covered up. Here a later picture of them in tna. You can tell that they didn't actually bother to do a proper cover up on it. It look like someone try to do a SS tribe tattoo.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 18, 2016 21:58:43 GMT -5
Forget the tattoos, how did they keep getting brought back to WWF without ever getting over the first and second time? I can understand WCW and TNA bringing them, considering it seems like they HAD to bring in former WWF wrestlers but...Blu Twins? Grimm Twins? DOA? Times like that make me wonder how much control Vince does have over WWE. Surely he wouldn't keep on guys who NEVER get over and have no minor talent other than being Twins. I guess that was always they selling point for Vince. "Well Mick, sometimes Vince does this just to be nice" Terry Funk, actually around the the time DOA came back, when Mick asked him why Vince hired someone.
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Apr 18, 2016 22:01:30 GMT -5
imgur.com/a/jdwsCGot this album link off Reddit. In the first one you can see one of their's SS tattoo as it was being covered up. ...yeah, there's no reason to have that pattern in any tattoo design unless you actually have Nazi tendencies. If they had really changed, they'd erase the SS bolts entirely, either through a better cover-up or removal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 23:31:04 GMT -5
imgur.com/a/jdwsCGot this album link off Reddit. In the first one you can see one of their's SS tattoo as it was being covered up. ...yeah, there's no reason to have that pattern in any tattoo design unless you actually have Nazi tendencies. If they had really changed, they'd erase the SS bolts entirely, either through a better cover-up or removal. Remember those pictures are from 1995, years before one of them wore a t-shirt with the SS logo on a TNA PPV. Remember a cover up is when you replace a previous tattoo with a new tattoo so you can't see the old one anymore, not add on to a current one like the Harris Brother did.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 18, 2016 23:52:22 GMT -5
I think it's just a case of they were friends with the right people, especially their WCW run. I have to imagine being buddy buddy with Jarrett as he was on the rise in that promotion opened a pretty big door, regardless of their...views. Yeah they were tight with JJ Also there's rumours about JJ and his father being racists. Wouldn't be surprised about Dixie as well Jeff Jarrett is a racist, there was a leaked email from Ron Killings to Terry Taylor. In it Killings writes that Jarrett called him the n word several times. Don't know if Jerry Jarrett is racist, I haven't heard any stories about him being one.
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Post by 67 more on Apr 19, 2016 0:34:24 GMT -5
The Harris Twins make me Fuhrerious, Anne Frankly we shouldn't take it anymore. I'm Goering to lodge a complaint with TNA saying we won't Goebbel up the employment of guys like this.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Apr 19, 2016 2:58:08 GMT -5
I'm going to post once on this whole subject. I've heard that they're born again Christians. That said, I consider that a possibility that they aren't Nazis anymore. People can change, I know that and have first hand experience of that.
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