Will WWE create a new Chyna?

[metylerca]

Nia Jax will now be known as Indya

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Well it would need to be a 5 ft 11 muscular woman. In her rf shoot Kaitlyn said that Vince hates the girls with muscle, so she needed to slim down which was hard for her because she came from a bodybuilding background.

Another thing was that Chyna was a hard pitch for Vince to accept, it took HBK and Triple H's endorsement, even then she almost went to WCW before Vince changed his mind.

I'm not saying it can't happen but someone high in the card would need to vouch for said woman.

Also Chyna looked so impressive because she used steroids. Physique wise, I don't believe that without steroids a woman could look so muscular as Chyna did, and in the current era of random drug tests no one could get away with that.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Apr 21, 2016 14:22:44 GMT -5 Reflecto said:

Even if you assume that WWE could get away with intergender matches or men vs. women in any way on their programming right now- which it's clear they can't- Chyna would STILL be a dinosaur in the modern era of wrestling.

Chyna worked and could fight the men not because of anything she could do in the ring, and more because Chyna was a novelty act and a really jacked bodybuilder woman who looked like she was as big as the men, with a "freakshow" aspect to her intergender work.

By contrast now- if intergender matches happen, the woman wrestler's look means absolutely nothing to the people watching the match. If a fan is willing to accept intergender matches happening, then that fan will also accept seeing the woman have a chance solely based on the woman's in-ring ability and talent and not based on her being really big, really fat, or really jacked.

WWE doesn't need to create a new Chyna type not just because they can't do intergender, but also because the fans who WOULD want intergender would be perfectly willing to go with it if one of the Horsewomen, Paige, or Emma were to decide they wanted to fight the men just due to those women's talent.

Thing is that the Horsewomen wouldn't be as believable as Chyna was in an intergender situation. Chyna was a bodybuilder novelty yes, but she looked like she could hang with the men physically. Many of the current women are quite small in comparison to the men and despite all their skills, They'd probably job to a well placed clothesine. The only way the likes of Sasha, or Paige fit in that situation is either if they wrestle the likes of Curtis Axel where it's a comedy match where the joke is "LOL Curtis Axel Got Beat Up By a Girl" (which defeats the purpose of such a gesture" or if WWE hired smaller guys (no not the 5'9, 195 lb guys that make up many of the ranks, but people legit billed as the same size as the female performers).

[joeiscool]

I don't see it happening.

Chyna existed at a time when wwe didn't have as many sponsors and investors, and we didn't have the 24 hour media that will pick up a story just because it's "controversial"

I think too many things could go wrong with a woman who consistently wrestles men for the wwe to ever go through with it now.

[Reflecto]

Apr 21, 2016 14:38:31 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Apr 21, 2016 14:22:44 GMT -5 Reflecto said:

Even if you assume that WWE could get away with intergender matches or men vs. women in any way on their programming right now- which it's clear they can't- Chyna would STILL be a dinosaur in the modern era of wrestling.

Chyna worked and could fight the men not because of anything she could do in the ring, and more because Chyna was a novelty act and a really jacked bodybuilder woman who looked like she was as big as the men, with a "freakshow" aspect to her intergender work.

By contrast now- if intergender matches happen, the woman wrestler's look means absolutely nothing to the people watching the match. If a fan is willing to accept intergender matches happening, then that fan will also accept seeing the woman have a chance solely based on the woman's in-ring ability and talent and not based on her being really big, really fat, or really jacked.

WWE doesn't need to create a new Chyna type not just because they can't do intergender, but also because the fans who WOULD want intergender would be perfectly willing to go with it if one of the Horsewomen, Paige, or Emma were to decide they wanted to fight the men just due to those women's talent.

Thing is that the Horsewomen wouldn't be as believable as Chyna was in an intergender situation. Chyna was a bodybuilder novelty yes, but she looked like she could hang with the men physically. Many of the current women are quite small in comparison to the men and despite all their skills, They'd probably job to a well placed clothesine. The only way the likes of Sasha, or Paige fit in that situation is either if they wrestle the likes of Curtis Axel where it's a comedy match where the joke is "LOL Curtis Axel Got Beat Up By a Girl" (which defeats the purpose of such a gesture" or if WWE hired smaller guys (no not the 5'9, 195 lb guys that make up many of the ranks, but people legit billed as the same size as the female performers).

But that is the whole point as well. On the indy scene /Lucha Underground, where intergender matches happen in the first place- maybe the wrestlers are usually smaller- but none of the women who really have a reputation as intergender specialists look like Chyna for "hanging with the men physically" standards. Most aren't even as big as a Natalya or a Beth- and some would be closer to Sasha or Paige's size, yet are bought as being able to hang with the men just because of their talent.

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Honestly, I could see the occasional mixed gender match and female title run as IC champ or something being an interesting thing. Maybe have a veteran female superstar take the title from a more inexperienced male superstar or something.

[The Dark Order Inferno]

Apr 21, 2016 10:42:48 GMT -5 anglarite said:

Apr 21, 2016 9:59:19 GMT -5 The Dark Order Inferno said:

No. They sacrificed the IC belt, Jeff Jarrett and set back Chris Jericho's career to 'make' Chyna, those days are over.

Yes, not like they would sacrifice, say, an entire Wrestlemania worth of young talent in order to push someone the crowd doesn't want, these days...

There's a world of difference between doing things that don't help a guys career to try and make someone else a main eventer and what they did to Jarrett and Jericho when they used them to get Chyna over as a midcard novelty act. Things like Hornswaggle's push and putting Santino over divas at wrestlemania is a fairer comparison, but we haven't seen their like in some time.

[Urfarkendarf]

Nah, I can't see them doing this with any of the names OP suggested. If there is another Chyna in the mix, they won't push her the way Laurer was. The thing about Chyna and her impact was the TIMING. It cannot be understated how much timing matters in wrestling and Attitude/Monday Night Wars time period was the absolute definition of an anomaly/lightning in a bottle. I can't see them going this route at least in the immediate future. If Chyna debuts today, I don't see her mixing it up with the men. It also has to be pointed out, that Chyna's push was very much demographically motivated. WWE struggled with women fans during Attitude, if anything interest in the women from women is at an all time high in this company.

Chyna also suffered a lot going against the men because quite a few of them did not want to sell for her. Its a big ask of not only the "next" Chyna, but also who she's going over. Do you think any of the guys outside of the comedy gimmicks will seriously put over a Paige or even a Charlotte? Its one thing if its a physically imposing woman like Chyna, these girls aren't her. Vince was initially completely against the idea of her competing against men in the first place, but did it because of the attention it brought and the fact she was physically imposing.

I have no doubts there will be women of her stature/physical attributes that will become stars in the business in the future, but to suggest they'll be pushed into the same realm that Chyna was, is a longshot looking at it right now. If it ever does happen, I don't think Vince will be the one making the decision to and maybe not even Hunter/Steph. That's going to be like a 30 year rule instead of a 7. We've just gotten rid of the word DIVA and the T&A being the precedent in the division. We're a long way from seeing any serious competition to the men from almost any woman. That's not to say its never or impossible, it just seems a massive stretch.

[keezy]

Apr 21, 2016 14:27:57 GMT -5 metylerca said:

Nia Jax will now be known as Indya

Or Symoa.