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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on May 3, 2016 8:01:33 GMT -5
getting the impression Naito/Okada maybe won't happen in Osaka? If it were I think a bigger deal would've been made post match. The title really needs to be defended on that show so hopefully something is announced in the next few weeks. also LEL Goto is so lost and done. Putting him in CHAOS was the worst thing that could've ever happened. On the bright side, at least EVIL is looking good he's really grown on me. Dude, Goto has been done! NJPW never had much faith in him.
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Post by 魔界5号 on May 3, 2016 8:11:28 GMT -5
I've always been a big Goto mark, but whenever he seems to finally be picking up some steam, the rug gets pulled out from under him and he falls back down to the middle of the pack. It's obvious that New Japan have never seen him as a legit main eventer and he's pretty much reached his ceiling which is a real shame, because he's very talented. I believe he's like 0-9 in World Title matches now, and that, combined with dropping the IC Title to Nakamura last September when he really didn't need to, joining CHAOS and making him look like he just gave up and admitted Okada was the better man, and the constant stop-start pushes he's had in recent years all go to show that he probably isn't gonna go any further than he has.
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Post by ________ has left the building on May 3, 2016 8:19:42 GMT -5
I've always been a big Goto mark, but whenever he seems to finally be picking up some steam, the rug gets pulled out from under him and he falls back down to the middle of the pack. It's obvious that New Japan have never seen him as a legit main eventer and he's pretty much reached his ceiling which is a real shame, because he's very talented. I believe he's like 0-9 in World Title matches now, and that, combined with dropping the IC Title to Nakamura last September when he really didn't need to, joining CHAOS and making him look like he just gave up and admitted Okada was the better man, and the constant stop-start pushes he's had in recent years all go to show that he probably isn't gonna go any further than he has. I keep saying that he needs a change of scenery. Naito was dead in the water until taking a trip to Mexico and learning the fine art of being a rudo from the masters. Goto needs an extended stint somewhere else to wash away the stank of failure otherwise he going to be just be the Buffalo Bills of New Japan.
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Post by eldandyjamupguy on May 3, 2016 8:58:46 GMT -5
Oh I know Goto has been done just that there was a segment on here who thought the big angle was Goto's redemption and that he was gonna get one of the top spots voided by Styles/Nak/Ibushi. Nah, he's just a geek.
yeah he should go to Mexico it worked for Naito. I mean heck once upon a time Nakamura was bland and boring.... then he went to Mexico and did some cok...umm...did some stuff and now the rest is history!
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Post by lucas_lee on May 3, 2016 9:28:59 GMT -5
Wow one of the first NJPW ladder matches between Omega and Tanahashi possibly. That will be amazing
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Post by froggyfrog on May 3, 2016 9:32:14 GMT -5
When was the last NJPW ladder match? Any gimmick match even?
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Post by 魔界5号 on May 3, 2016 9:33:34 GMT -5
When was the last NJPW ladder match? Any gimmick match even? Fale vs Makabe in a King Of Destroyers match. Wrestle Kingdom 8. Basically a Last Man Standing match
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Post by lucas_lee on May 3, 2016 9:33:37 GMT -5
When was the last NJPW ladder match? Any gimmick match even? Not sure NJPW isn't too keen on gimmick matches, hell I can't remember the last cage match NJPW had
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Post by lucas_lee on May 3, 2016 9:33:55 GMT -5
When was the last NJPW ladder match? Any gimmick match even? Fale vs Makabe in a King Of Destroyers match. Wrestle Kingdom 8. Basically a Last Man Standing match That's right I totally forgot about that
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Post by 魔界5号 on May 3, 2016 10:28:11 GMT -5
If you count it as a gimmick, Suzuki vs Sakuraba at WK9 was held under "UWFi Rules".
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Post by chrom on May 3, 2016 11:00:57 GMT -5
New Japan almost never does gimmick matches, they closest they go for is a No DQ match.
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Post by Fundertaker on May 3, 2016 15:34:46 GMT -5
For actual ladder matches, there was one at the last WRESTLE LAND show between Tanahashi, Nakanishi and TARU. Nakanishi won and those shows were re-labelled as NAKANISHI LAND. There's a joke in there somewhere, I just can't seem to find it.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on May 3, 2016 18:02:26 GMT -5
Roman Reigns may be "The Guy", but right now, Tetsuya Naito is "That Dude".
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Post by froggyfrog on May 3, 2016 20:38:34 GMT -5
Roman Reigns may be "The Guy", but right now, Tetsuya Naito is "That Dude". "dat boi"
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on May 3, 2016 20:49:00 GMT -5
So the first ladder match in New Japan history? My prediction is Omega wins via copious amounts of Bullet Club interference that way there's room for a rematch down the line, Tanahashi is saved from a pinfall loss due to it being a ladder match, and Omega has a reasonable way to duck Tanahashi, until their ineveitable rematch where Tanahashi will win the belt.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 3, 2016 23:04:58 GMT -5
NJPW Wrestling Dontaku May 3rd, 2016 | Fukuoka Kokusai Center in Fukuoka, Japan | Attendance: 5,299
Earlier today was NJPW’s big Wrestling Dontaku event. It’s the one big NJPW event that I’ve never seen, having missed it last year.
Bad Luck Fale and Yujiro Takahashi def. Captain New Japan and Juice Robinson in 2:26 We saw something open up the Invasion Attack show last month. Like that match, this was exactly what I wanted it to be. Short and to the point. New Japan has found the perfect place for Fale and Takahashi. Have them win these short openers. It gets Yujiro in and out before he can irritate me and allows Fale to be a monster. He put down the Captain with a Grenade. Fine for what it was. *
Gedo, Kazushi Sakuraba, Will Ospreay and YOSHI-HASHI def. David Finlay Jay White, Ryusuke Taguchi and Tiger Mask IV in 7:23 Considering one team had the Young Lions (particularly Finlay who eats all of the pins), the outcome of this was never really in doubt. Everyone got at least a small chance to strut their stuff as you would expect in a multi-man tag. The story here was Will Ospreay. After a spectacular debut at Invasion Attack, he officially inked a deal with NJPW. He was the star here and watching him work with the Young Lions was a blast. He hit his signature corner kick, did a sick dive onto everyone outside and put away Finlay with a springboard cutter. Fun little match here that never overstayed its welcome. Ospreay should be golden in NJPW and is young enough that he can stay for a few years and still move on, to the WWE if he wants, in his prime. **¾
IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Championship: Matt Sydal and Ricochet def. Roppongi Vice (c) in 16:26 Seriously? Does Gedo just flip a coin in the back to determine if these belts are going to change hands or not? Roppongi Vice came in with a sound strategy, like all heel tandems. They cut the ring in half on their smaller opponent, while talking smack to Ricochet on the apron. They did a good job of cutting off the hot tag and building tension. Ricochet’s hot tag was pretty good but the crowd didn’t seem as hot for it as expected. Part of that is probably because Fukuoka isn’t traditionally a super-hot crowd from what I’ve heard and part might be because it is so hard to care about this division. A good finishing stretch saw Sydal and Ricochet hit their stereo shooting star presses to regain the straps. Better than their Invasion Attack match but not quite as good as their Power Struggle outing last year. The booking of this division continues to suck massive ass. ***¼
NEVER Openweight Six Man Tag Team Championship: The Elite (IWGP Intercontinental Champion Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks) def. Hiroshi Tanahashi, Michael Elgin and Yoshitatsu (c) in 14:03 Goddammit Gedo. Again? The Young Bucks wore jackets and tights with tons of pictures of their faces on them. Oh those guys are so cool. /endsarcasm. Yoshitatsu is even less cool, still doing his poor Triple H cosplay. Despite them coming out with weapons, this was a much calmer match than their Invasion Attack one. At least for the first half or so before things started to break down. A ladder came into play, continuing on the one that Omega used on Tanahashi on the Road to Wrestling Dontaku show last week. Yoshitatsu came in and did his shitty Triple H stuff before eating some superkicks. Omega hit the One Winged Angel and the Elite won back the belts, which are more of a joke than the IWGP Jr. Tag Titles. It’s sad actually. The match itself was pretty much a retread of the stuff we’ve already seen from the guys involved. **¾
The Elite tried to continue the attack on Yoshitatsu after the bell with the ladder but Tanahashi made the save. He slammed Omega on the ladder and went for High Fly Flow but the Bucks pulled Omega to safety. Tanahashi grabbed a microphone and challenged Omega for the Intercontinental Title again. Omega’s response was great, talking about how they don’t usually speak the same language, before saying no to the challenge. He then opens the ladder and only accepts if it is a ladder match. Omega welcomed Tanahashi to “American style”. So it looks like they’re really gonna do it. Should be fun. Expect Dave Meltzer to five star all over it.
IWGP Tag Team Championship: The Guerillas of Destiny (c) def. Great Bash Heel in 12:12 Togi Makabe sported a big bandage around his head. The match at Invasion Attack between these two teams was easily the biggest disappointment on the entire card. They brawled early on and gave us one of the lamest countout teases ever. Honma locked the guardrail on Tonga after the referee reached 18. They literally just stopped counting to allow the guys to get back in. I found this to be better than their previous match but still not anything that I would consider really good. Tonga and Roa looked more comfortable together here, though it has been clear which member is better so far. They retained by hitting their double team finisher on Honma. Passable match. **½
The 2016 Best of the Super Junior field was announced. “A” Block features KUSHIDA, Ryusuke Taguchi, Kyle O’Reilly, Matt Sydal, Rocky Romero, Gedo, BUSHI and Matt Jackson. “B” Block has Jushin Thunder Liger, Tiger Mask IV, Bobby Fish, Trent Baretta, Nick Jackson, Ricochet, Volador Jr. and Will Ospreay. I’m only really interested in about half of the field, which are the guys that I bolded.
NEVER Openweight Championship: Yuji Nagata w/ Manabu Nakanishi def. Katsuyori Shibata (c) in 11:53 The video package before the match did a good job in recapping Shibata’s “fu*k old dudes” tour over the course of the past few months. These two had such a great match in the G1 Climax two years ago. This felt like the fight that it needed to. Both guys hit each other very hard, there was shoving of the referee and you just got the sense that they wanted to hurt one another. There was a point where Shibata popped up instantly after a suplex and hit a German only for Nagata to get up instantly. Shibata kicked out of a backdrop driver at one before they exchanged some hard shorts, including a vicious Shibata slap. Nagata won out, hit Shibata’s own Penalty Kick and a second backdrop driver to become the new champion. I disagree with the title change since Shibata was having the best run with the title I’ve ever seen, but it was much better than the show’s first two swaps. Great match that was probably a cut below their G1 encounter in 2014. ****
IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Championship: KUSHIDA (c) def. Jushin Thunder Liger in 14:37 Another well done video package here as it showed their past matches, Liger being an 11 time Jr. Heavyweight Champion and KUSHIDA’s humble beginnings. Despite things getting heated on the road to Wrestling Dontaku, they opened with a handshake. Liger put his focus on the leg, which he also worked in the lead in to this match. In a move I didn’t expect here, Liger planted KUSHIDA with a goddamn Brainbuster on the concrete! Liger applied his own Hoverboard lock on the champion at one point but went back to the leg when that failed. Liger put one hell of a fight but lost to the Hoverboard Lock after KUSHIDA added extra pressure by pulling back on his fingers. A really good back and forth match. Post-match, we were treated to a show of respect by both competitors. ****
EVIL def. Hirooki Goto in 9:53 In a great moment, EVIL met Hirooki Goto in the aisle during his entrance, leading to a brawl. EVIL brought chairs into play and did his now trademark move of wrapping a chair on his opponent’s head and hitting another chair into it. They kept things short and compact, similar to what you’d see in a G1 Climax setting. The final few minutes were really strong, as both guys brought out the big guns and hit some major offense. From seemingly out of nowhere, EVIL struck with the STO and defeated Goto. Big win for EVIL though I have to wonder what the plan is for Goto. He really is seemingly going nowhere fast after a very big 2015. I’d consider this exactly the kind of match I want from these two. It was a vast improvement on their Power Struggle match last November. EVIL has quietly been having a strong 2016. ***¾
Kazuchika Okada w/ Gedo def. SANADA in 15:11 For those that forgot, SANADA played a huge role in costing Okada the IWGP Heavyweight Title at Invasion Attack. We got the typical New Japan countout tease in the early stages. I do wish this was worked with more urgency from Okada. I’m not saying it had to be just like EVIL/Goto but Okada should be pissed at SANADA and want to take him out. He did eventually show a bit more of a mean streak as evidenced by a DDT off the guardrail on the outside. Like the previous match and most Okada matches, the finishing stretch was really strong. SANADA got a fair amount of shine and even countered the Rainmaker into a dragon sleeper, only for Okada to roll through that with a tombstone. He followed with the Rainmaker and bested SANADA. Most of this was standard Okada fare but I liked a good chunk of what I saw from SANADA. ***¼
IWGP Heavyweight Championship: Tetsuya Naito (c) w/ BUSHI and EVIL def. ROH World Television Champion Tomohiro Ishii w/ Gedo and Kazuchika Okada in 30:33 Again, another top notch video package. It focused on how Los Ingobernables, and mainly Tetsuya Naito have taken over. Fans love heel Naito but hated cheesy babyface Naito. Ishii and Naito have spectacular chemistry, with some classics in 2014 and a great match in the New Japan Cup this year. This was also Ishii’s first shot at the IWGP Heavyweight Title. Ishii went after the leg, which was a welcome choice since he doesn’t do it often. Naito’s selling of the leg throughout was top notch, as he’d leave it limp at times. Watching Ishii twist and bend his legs in weird ways was great. EVIL and BUSHI got involved but were held back by Okada and Gedo. When they did get in, Okada and Gedo took them out and headed to the back with them, leaving this as a one on one encounter. Even though most of us came in fully expecting Naito to retain, there were several moments where they made you believe Ishii would actually do it. Naito got to show off some power with a few suplexes on Ishii that I didn’t expect. He also fired off a series of strikes, including a vicious slap but Ishii came back with his own and a big headbutt. Finally, after having it countered multiple times throughout the match, Naito hit Destino and retained. A fantastic performance from two of my favorite wrestlers. Even the involvement of Chaos and Los Ingobernables de Japon wasn’t a negative here as it made sense and eventually led to a great one on one showing. ****½
Overall: 7.5/10. The second half of this show really saved it. Most of the stuff that came before intermission was lackluster. The opener and eight man tag were relatively fine and short. The Jr. Tag Title match was pretty good, but the NEVER Tag and Tag Title matches both lacked. Everything after was pretty top notch. Nagata/Shibata ruled, Liger/KUSHIDA was excellent, EVIL and Goto went to war, we got a typical Okada match and an awesome main event featuring two of the very best around. Definitely check out the second half of the show because it was pretty much the best five match stretch I think I’ve seen in 2016.
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Post by AwamoriRock on May 4, 2016 10:39:37 GMT -5
Naito's condition for a rematch with Okada: Kidani has to sit front row to see him beat him.
Also pokes fun at the idea that whoever storms the ring first after a title match can be the challenger haha.
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Post by andrew8798 on May 7, 2016 23:12:33 GMT -5
Finally got a chance to watch this show. Right now at the NEVER Openweight Championship match.
These titles are just useless now. It seems like they change every show
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Post by andrew8798 on May 8, 2016 0:03:38 GMT -5
That Liger match was great
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Post by MrElijah on May 8, 2016 0:06:10 GMT -5
Why don't New Japan just merge the Tag Titles? It could lead to some new and exciting matches.
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