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Post by WoodStoner1 on Mar 3, 2018 21:14:02 GMT -5
Let me guess...BPs success is going to make DC rush Cyborg out?
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 3, 2018 21:54:10 GMT -5
Let me guess...BPs success is going to make DC rush Cyborg out? And very likely without any working knowledge of what made BP a success, yes.
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Post by chrom on Mar 3, 2018 22:28:38 GMT -5
Let me guess...BPs success is going to make DC rush Cyborg out? And very likely without any working knowledge of what made BP a success, yes. Cyborg will be every black stereotype rolled into one when they're done with him
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Post by Larryhausen on Mar 3, 2018 22:30:40 GMT -5
And very likely without any working knowledge of what made BP a success, yes. Cyborg will be every black stereotype rolled into one when they're done with him And be recast as Shaquille O'Neal.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Mar 3, 2018 23:26:14 GMT -5
Cyborg will be every black stereotype rolled into one when they're done with him And be recast as Shaquille O'Neal. Hey, I enjoyed STEEL.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Mar 4, 2018 0:51:28 GMT -5
The one song they used to hype the movie got me into Run the Jewels. The soundtrack Kendrick Lamar put together for the film is awesome, also worth checking out.
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Post by abjordans on Mar 4, 2018 8:22:42 GMT -5
So, I saw it last night and slept on it, consider me disappointed. Definitely went in with outrageous expectations. For one, the last 2/3 Marvel movies are possibly my 2 favorite ever (GotG2 and Thor: Ragnarok). And I have been all in on the Black Panther hype train since he popped up on Civil War, I just thought his cameo was so badass. And the movie was enjoyable... Just kind of boring. I didn’t really leave with any kind of feeling like I normally do leaving a Marvel movie. I also didn’t leave with the strong urge to want to see it again. T’Challah was also badly overshadowed by... Everybody pretty much. Black Panther was the least bad ass thing about the movie, and I think that definitely hurt it for me. Firmly ok with my opinion of this one being on the 2nd tier of MCU films.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Mar 4, 2018 12:33:39 GMT -5
Crossed into the all-time Top 10 grossing films for the US...in its third weekend.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Mar 4, 2018 14:25:51 GMT -5
I finally saw it last night and I really enjoyed it.
For me, the best villains are ones who are convinced of their righteousness and speak to truth and I think that’s what you had in Killmonger. Certainly his methods were extreme and that’s what made him a villain, but it was hard to argue with the main thrust of his position.
And I like that it also made the heroes fallible. T’Chaka and Zuri did the wrong thing in leaving him in Oakland. They made a mistake and it was this bad choice that led to Killmonger’s rise.
My fiancée, who knew nothing of Black Panther outside of his appearance in Civil War, was pleasantly surprised by how female-centric the film was and the number of really strong female characters.
I will say this, though, I can see the argument that T’Challa as a character paled in comparison to those around him, especially Killmonger, Shuri, Okoye and M’Baku.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 4, 2018 14:50:46 GMT -5
I finally saw it last night and I really enjoyed it. For me, the best villains are ones who are convinced of their righteousness and speak to truth and I think that’s what you had in Killmonger. Certainly his methods were extreme and that’s what made him a villain, but it was hard to argue with the main thrust of his position. And I like that it also made the heroes fallible. T’Chaka and Zuri did the wrong thing in leaving him in Oakland. They made a mistake and it was this bad choice that led to Killmonger’s rise. My fiancée, who knew nothing of Black Panther outside of his appearance in Civil War, was pleasantly surprised by how female-centric the film was and the number of really strong female characters. I will say this, though, I can see the argument that T’Challa as a character paled in comparison to those around him, especially Killmonger, Shuri, Okoye and M’Baku. The thing is, Killmonger was eloquent, but ultimately a hypocrite. Stealing another culture's artifact because "I'm just feelin' it", and sacrificing the girl he probably seduced with a lot of revolutionary rhetoric show that. Ultimately, nothing Killgrave did was for a "cause", he was just acting out because his daddy was murdered, and he had a convenient cultural excuse there. He may believe in his own righteousness, but ultimately can't see that he's no better than the ones that did him wrong. Fascinating character, really, and Michael B. Jordan absolutely deserves an immense amount of credit for him.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 4, 2018 15:42:10 GMT -5
I finally saw it last night and I really enjoyed it. For me, the best villains are ones who are convinced of their righteousness and speak to truth and I think that’s what you had in Killmonger. Certainly his methods were extreme and that’s what made him a villain, but it was hard to argue with the main thrust of his position. And I like that it also made the heroes fallible. T’Chaka and Zuri did the wrong thing in leaving him in Oakland. They made a mistake and it was this bad choice that led to Killmonger’s rise. My fiancée, who knew nothing of Black Panther outside of his appearance in Civil War, was pleasantly surprised by how female-centric the film was and the number of really strong female characters. I will say this, though, I can see the argument that T’Challa as a character paled in comparison to those around him, especially Killmonger, Shuri, Okoye and M’Baku. The thing is, Killmonger was eloquent, but ultimately a hypocrite. Stealing another culture's artifact because "I'm just feelin' it", and sacrificing the girl he probably seduced with a lot of revolutionary rhetoric show that. Ultimately, nothing Killgrave did was for a "cause", he was just acting out because his daddy was murdered, and he had a convenient cultural excuse there. He may believe in his own righteousness, but ultimately can't see that he's no better than the ones that did him wrong. Fascinating character, really, and Michael B. Jordan absolutely deserves an immense amount of credit for him. Yeah, that's the thing about it that makes him a fleshed out character. You can believe in the intentions of what he wants to do but he's a villian because he wants to risk the lives of those around him to do it. Because he'd be kidding himself if he didn't know they'd be casualties in his own rank for his potential plan. It's like when a good heel says "Hey, none of you were there for me so I'm going to destroy those you love" and beats up the top face. Yeah, they're justified for being angry because they recovered on their own from the beatdown/injury etc but...you're lashing out at people. That makes you the heel and overrides those good points.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 4, 2018 16:02:38 GMT -5
I really hope this film's success convinces Marvel to do more outside the box stuff. And by that I mean films that feel unique and take place outside of the typical US Metropolitan cities. A big part of the reason I loved Black Panther was the aesthetic. It looked like nothing I'd seen before, without having to go to outer space.
For example, when they finally get to do X-Men, I'd LOVE a Savage Land film.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 4, 2018 17:40:21 GMT -5
Regarding T'Challa and the supporting cast...some of the characters do steal the show, like Shuri, Okoye and Killmonger especially, but I thought Boseman's performance was damn good in its own right.
I think Marvel believed audiences were familiar enough with him in Civil War, or at least there would be enough fans of that film, to where they could afford more development time to the people around him. If anything, the richness of the cast and how they interacted with T'Challa made him that much more compelling. Killmonger's anger is totally justifiable, but he's essentially still the catalyst for both T'Challa and Wakanda's evolution.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 4, 2018 17:40:24 GMT -5
I really hope this film's success convinces Marvel to do more outside the box stuff. And by that I mean films that feel unique and take place outside of the typical US Metropolitan cities. A big part of the reason I loved Black Panther was the aesthetic. It looked like nothing I'd seen before, without having to go to outer space. For example, when they finally get to do X-Men, I'd LOVE a Savage Land film. I absolutely loved the aesthetic of Wakanda. You had this really super-advanced technological city with all this futuristic technology, but it wasn't your typical sci-fi futuristic metropolis. It had a distinct feel to it, influenced by various African cultural and architectural styles, and it makes it stand out.
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Post by chrom on Mar 4, 2018 19:06:57 GMT -5
Sometime during the week it'll cross the billion dollar mark
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Mar 4, 2018 19:30:24 GMT -5
I think Marvel believed audiences were familiar enough with him in Civil War, or at least there would be enough fans of that film, to where they could afford more development time to the people around him. If anything, the richness of the cast and how they interacted with T'Challa made him that much more compelling. Killmonger's anger is totally justifiable, but he's essentially still the catalyst for both T'Challa and Wakanda's evolution. Civil War did an amazing job introducing and integrating the Black Panther into the existing storylines and MCU. Not that Marvel has ever had a problem introducing new characters, but they balanced that one perfectly.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 6, 2018 20:23:48 GMT -5
Really my only complaints on this are to do with suit vs suit. Both the fact that it happened for the 84th time in the MCU, and that the CGI when it got to that part was a bit jenky, which is a shame considering that the rest of the effects looked beautiful.
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Post by brown bricks on Mar 9, 2018 21:44:18 GMT -5
I feel like most are going to think I'm a contrarian ass for saying this, but I was bored to tears throughout most of this. Killmonger was great, but everything else was so boring and silly. I think the extreme hype for this movie built it up to a point to where it would've never lived up to my expectations (Which is not a fault of the movie). I know these things are absolutely subjective, but it blows my mind that folks are calling this the best Marvel movie. Hell, I thought Thor Ragnarok was infinitely more entertaining than this, as was Spider-Man: Homecoming. I wouldn't put this in my top ten Marvel movies. I didn't think it was an awful/bad movie by any means, but it's not one I want to watch again at any point.
Also, this movie doesn't deserve a 100% on RT solely due to the "WHAT ARE THOSE!?" joke at the beginning of the movie.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Mar 9, 2018 22:09:11 GMT -5
I feel like most are going to think I'm a contrarian ass for saying this, but I was bored to tears throughout most of this. Killmonger was great, but everything else was so boring and silly. I think the extreme hype for this movie built it up to a point to where it would've never lived up to my expectations (Which is not a fault of the movie). I know these things are absolutely subjective, but it blows my mind that folks are calling this the best Marvel movie. Hell, I thought Thor Ragnarok was infinitely more entertaining than this, as was Spider-Man: Homecoming. I wouldn't put this in my top ten Marvel movies. I didn't think it was an awful/bad movie by any means, but it's not one I want to watch again at any point. Also, this movie doesn't deserve a 100% on RT solely due to the "WHAT ARE THOSE!?" joke at the beginning of the movie. It has a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Post by brown bricks on Mar 9, 2018 22:15:04 GMT -5
I feel like most are going to think I'm a contrarian ass for saying this, but I was bored to tears throughout most of this. Killmonger was great, but everything else was so boring and silly. I think the extreme hype for this movie built it up to a point to where it would've never lived up to my expectations (Which is not a fault of the movie). I know these things are absolutely subjective, but it blows my mind that folks are calling this the best Marvel movie. Hell, I thought Thor Ragnarok was infinitely more entertaining than this, as was Spider-Man: Homecoming. I wouldn't put this in my top ten Marvel movies. I didn't think it was an awful/bad movie by any means, but it's not one I want to watch again at any point. Also, this movie doesn't deserve a 100% on RT solely due to the "WHAT ARE THOSE!?" joke at the beginning of the movie. It has a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. I'm so out of the loop, I thought it still has 100%. God be with those poor 3% who dared to give this movie a bad review.
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