LuciCypher
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Post by LuciCypher on Aug 1, 2016 23:04:05 GMT -5
I'm not one to complain about this type of thing usually, but this segment just didn't work for me I didn't like it at all. There was some fine quips, but outside of that I could of done without. Why was Jericho the one to interrupt what's his connection with Flair outside of they were in WCW. And then Enzo comes out to side with Sasha. And Why? Because he wants to hit on her? I mean she was into it at least I guess. I just feel that if they wanted to set up a mixed tag I feel there could of been other people to set it up with that have an established connection to both Sasha and Charlotte. Or at least have Sasha tell Enzo that she appreciates the help, but she doesn't need the help with losers like Charlotte and Jericho or whatever and say hey as long as he's there they can bring down twice the verbal smack down. I guess my main complaint is that the women just sort of faded into the background when the segment should of been about them first and everything else second.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 23:09:11 GMT -5
It was a fun segment, the women said their piece, Jericho got involved, Enzo got involved and then it was the guys' turns to say their piece. There was nothing in that presentation that made me feel like the women were being shoved in the background, they just happened to be the people not talking for last bit of it.
I like that they mixed the guys and girls up and I hope they keep doing it. Jericho's motives can be summed up by the fact that something was happening that didn't involve him and he felt like he needed to be out there, and Enzo happened to be the guy who decided to even the odds.
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LuciCypher
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Post by LuciCypher on Aug 1, 2016 23:18:41 GMT -5
It was a fun segment, the women said their piece, Jericho got involved, Enzo got involved and then it was the guys' turns to say their piece. There was nothing in that presentation that made me feel like the women were being shoved in the background, they just happened to be the people not talking for last bit of it. I like that they mixed the guys and girls up and I hope they keep doing it. Jericho's motives can be summed up by the fact that something was happening that didn't involve him and he felt like he needed to be out there, and Enzo happened to be the guy who decided to even the odds. I like it just more in theory than in practice. I just don't think it was very good.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 1, 2016 23:18:45 GMT -5
it was so strange and so glorious.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 23:22:11 GMT -5
It was fun I think although I have 1 complaint.
Sasha/Enzo don't work well. Sasha does her best Gina impression and she always does it well. No matter how hard Enzo tries though, he's not Marty Mar. That was just awkward.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 1, 2016 23:22:51 GMT -5
It was an opening segment that involved no McMahons but, more importantly, showed characters interacting with each other. The show has a problem with feuds existing in vacuums even when they throw together tag matches out of people involved in feuds, and seeing interaction like this was good. A little rough around the edges, but it's experimentation and you're bound to get that on a weekly TV show that's suddenly feeling out creative decisions, so I can give it a pass for what it is despite its flaws, and hope they felt it was good enough to keep on with the concept and work out the kinks in the coming weeks.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Aug 1, 2016 23:28:18 GMT -5
It was pure fun. From all involved.
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Post by Ash Kingston on Aug 1, 2016 23:36:20 GMT -5
I did get a good chuckle at the end with the ref taking the belt to Charlotte, then realizing "oops, shit", and hastily heading back to Sasha.
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Post by Instant Classic on Aug 2, 2016 0:17:35 GMT -5
Enzo's dance is hilarious.
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Post by schma on Aug 2, 2016 1:13:20 GMT -5
My favourite part of it was Jericho covering Charlotte's ears when they booed her and she went with it. They definitely had more chemistry than Sasha and Enzo but the exchange was enjoyable.
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Aug 2, 2016 1:19:19 GMT -5
Be happy with what you get
Would you have preferred another long Steph monologue?
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ayumidah
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Post by ayumidah on Aug 2, 2016 1:27:05 GMT -5
Yeah, it, Lensar/Heyman/Orton and the Heath/Jinder things were pretty much the highlights of Raw for me.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Aug 2, 2016 1:53:04 GMT -5
Congratulations, Enzo. Those were officially the worst pick-up lines I've ever heard.
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Post by MAGGLE on Aug 2, 2016 2:37:28 GMT -5
I knew I would find this thread the moment the segment even started. It was the only thing I enjoyed on the entire Show...
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Post by Doogie Bowser, MD on Aug 2, 2016 3:00:42 GMT -5
For being an unabashed Vince advocate and insanely loyal to WWE for most part, Flair & his family are apparently the go-to buttmonkeys when someone in creative wants to get "edgy"
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 2, 2016 4:06:38 GMT -5
Jericho and Charlotte worked surprisingly well together. If you think about the segment too much, it doesn't make sense, but I enjoyed it.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Aug 2, 2016 4:50:23 GMT -5
It was great. Huge fan of how they scripted the first 35-40 minutes of the show. First of all, Sasha opens Raw, then Charlotte comes out. So now their feud instantly feels even more like a main event level feud because of the optics of it all. Then Jericho's appearance is great because he has no right to come out but who cares because Jericho. Then for ENZO to come out was the cherry on top. Hardly any of it felt scripted or rehearsed. Another plus.
I'd rather something rough than something that looks way over produced anyway. The show is called RAW for god's sake. Enzo gets to provide comedy with Jericho and clearly a mixed tag match is brewing, so that's even more awesome because Enzo gets a huge rub being the guy to take on Jericho. And the heels cheat with a Charlotte victory so it's not even Enzo taking the predictable fall either. Seriously, hats off to WWE for the freshest intro to Raw in literally years. This brand split is off to a tremendous start.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 2, 2016 5:21:31 GMT -5
Some parts worked, some parts didn't, but it was fresh talent in the opening segment and they held their own just fine. And since that usually gets presented as one of the most important parts of the show, it automatically gives shine to the Banks v Charlotte feud and the likely Jericho/Owens v Enzo/Big Cass feud.
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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 2, 2016 5:48:49 GMT -5
I did get a good chuckle at the end with the ref taking the belt to Charlotte, then realizing "oops, shit", and hastily heading back to Sasha. Definitely a Botchamania moment!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 6:13:10 GMT -5
I thought the whole segment sucked. Didn't like one moment & it killed my enjoyment of the show.
I'm legit, BTW.
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