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Post by mysterydriver on Aug 14, 2016 17:16:28 GMT -5
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This thread made this scene pop into my head.
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Post by LexExpress on Aug 14, 2016 18:01:45 GMT -5
Really, you thought that book didn't take sides? I thought the guy was so biased against Avery it was unreal. He even makes a point similar to one in the Netflix doc, that "even if" he didn't do the first crime, it's a shame he got released because Theresa would still be alive now. Plus his reasoning for why the police wouldn't have planted evidence is basically "I know them and they're sound blokes in my opinion". Hmmm. Nope because he constantly maintains his innocence in the first crime. Just because .Doesn't paint Avery as a victim considering his life of crime and violence that came before this stuff. Including holding a sheriffs wife at gun point and only letting her go when he saw a baby in the car. Again, seek out his interview with Heather Wade it is probably the best 3 hours of content examining. He even said he would have defended Avery the first time around if not for a conflict of interest. Did you read this book? Its been years since I have and I may be spotty but I think you're wrong on the tone. Yeah, I read it a couple of months ago. Obviously I've read it or I wouldn't have given my opinion on it... but yeah that's the overall feeling that I took from it. I agree with you that he didn't paint him as a victim - I'd say he outright calls him a criminal though and that's his basis for thinking he's guilty. I haven't seen any of the interviews with the author, but I'm willing to give them a watch.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 18:03:56 GMT -5
that's the other guy Steven Avery. Is this the guy who was proven to have been an animal abuser? this was one part of that neverending documentary that really bugged me. In the show, they said he pleaded guilty to animal cruelty after he threw his family's cat over a bonfire, causing it to ignite accidentally. The truth was that Avery poured gasoline on a cat and threw it into a bonfire. They deliberately left that out to help add to the "conspiracy theory" that they were all out to get Avery.
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Post by Juice on Aug 14, 2016 18:15:58 GMT -5
Nope because he constantly maintains his innocence in the first crime. Just because .Doesn't paint Avery as a victim considering his life of crime and violence that came before this stuff. Including holding a sheriffs wife at gun point and only letting her go when he saw a baby in the car. Again, seek out his interview with Heather Wade it is probably the best 3 hours of content examining. He even said he would have defended Avery the first time around if not for a conflict of interest. Did you read this book? Its been years since I have and I may be spotty but I think you're wrong on the tone. Yeah, I read it a couple of months ago. Obviously I've read it or I wouldn't have given my opinion on it... but yeah that's the overall feeling that I took from it. I agree with you that he didn't paint him as a victim - I'd say he outright calls him a criminal though and that's his basis for thinking he's guilty. I haven't seen any of the interviews with the author, but I'm willing to give them a watch. Hey man its the internet, lots of people have opinions based without research, can't blame me for double checking. He does paint him as a criminal which I don't think is unfair since he had something like 23 arrests prior to the bogus conviction. It's awfully hard not for anyone to look at him as such. Not just him but anyone with his wrap sheet is always going to be looked at as such.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Aug 14, 2016 19:17:39 GMT -5
Is this the guy who was proven to have been an animal abuser? this was one part of that neverending documentary that really bugged me. In the show, they said he pleaded guilty to animal cruelty after he threw his family's cat over a bonfire, causing it to ignite accidentally. The truth was that Avery poured gasoline on a cat and threw it into a bonfire. They deliberately left that out to help add to the "conspiracy theory" that they were all out to get Avery. In that case, I hope that Avery rots in prison and, eventually, in hell. f*** that sicko.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 15, 2016 4:01:14 GMT -5
Of course. Don't be strange. Is this an extremely obscure reference to the show? Because me and my lass tell each 'don't get strange' in a rural Wisconsin accent all the time. In the series he's talking to his wife on the phone from prison, Avery is, and she asks how he's doing or something, he sadly says, "I'm going to miss WrestleMania". Given the year of the call, it's Mania 21 he was sad about missing.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 15, 2016 4:08:21 GMT -5
Is this an extremely obscure reference to the show? Because me and my lass tell each 'don't get strange' in a rural Wisconsin accent all the time. In the series he's talking to his wife on the phone from prison, Avery is, and she asks how he's doing or something, he sadly says, "I'm going to miss WrestleMania". Given the year of the call, it's Mania 21 he was sad about missing. I know. I have watched the shit out of this series three times. Brendan wasn't arrested until early 2006, so it was WM22 he was talking about. What I was talking about was when Steven's wife leaves him after she violates her probation too many times, and Steven says that he's giving up on the case or ever getting out and possibly even contemplating suicide, at which point his dad says 'Don't get straaaange' in a weird tone of voice. ...Admittedly wouldn't normally be a rich vein of comedy but I know you of all people would understand the dark sense of humour my girlfriend and I share.
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