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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 10:57:49 GMT -5
If Reigns loses to Rusev at SS I get it. It's basically the free advertisement match where they are red herring the marks Reigns will win and if the match was good, it's going to be better at SummerSlam. Plus if they make Reigns lose, his momentum hasn't crashed that hard since he won the night before cleanly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 11:04:01 GMT -5
Dude I would be depressed too if I spent 5+ hours of my week every week watching something I disliked The thing on Raw is it's incredibly inconsistent, thus why people spend, "5+ hours of their week every week watching something they disliked". We had a few shows in a row there people largely enjoyed Raw, especially the first brand split show, and it got people optimistic, but then the last couple of weeks have just been straight-up garbage.
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Post by slappy on Aug 16, 2016 11:49:07 GMT -5
I liked it too.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 16, 2016 21:38:09 GMT -5
If Reigns loses to Rusev at SS I get it. It's basically the free advertisement match where they are red herring the marks Reigns will win and if the match was good, it's going to be better at SummerSlam. Plus if they make Reigns lose, his momentum hasn't crashed that hard since he won the night before cleanly. Thing is... People here WANT Reigns's momentum to crash. They want it to crash harder than the 1929 stock market.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 17, 2016 3:39:09 GMT -5
If Reigns loses to Rusev at SS I get it. It's basically the free advertisement match where they are red herring the marks Reigns will win and if the match was good, it's going to be better at SummerSlam. Plus if they make Reigns lose, his momentum hasn't crashed that hard since he won the night before cleanly. Thing is... People here WANT Reigns's momentum to crash. They want it to crash harder than the 1929 stock market. I don't think that's true. The number of people actually wanting Roman to fail is relatively small. The larger quotient I think just want him to go heel so that we can all boo the shit out of him.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 17, 2016 8:14:36 GMT -5
If Reigns loses to Rusev at SS I get it. It's basically the free advertisement match where they are red herring the marks Reigns will win and if the match was good, it's going to be better at SummerSlam. Plus if they make Reigns lose, his momentum hasn't crashed that hard since he won the night before cleanly. Thing is... People here WANT Reigns's momentum to crash. They want it to crash harder than the 1929 stock market. I know I saw at least one person basically demand that Roman become a superstars jobber... which just flat out isn't happening.
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Post by canal on Aug 17, 2016 14:44:18 GMT -5
I thought the match was excellent, and was pretty surprised to come on here and see everyone talking about how terrible it was. Rusev is such a machine and one of the best performers they've got, so give him a 20 minute PPV quality match and I'm most likely going to dig it. I thought he was very convincing in his domination of Reigns and that Reigns' selling was some of the best I've seen for him. I was able to suspend disbelief and think that maybe Rusev would get the win, given that Reigns has been on his jobbing tour and he had another match with Rusev coming up for a title shot. The finish was disappointing, but barely, and didn't take away from what I perceived as high quality work from both guys.
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Post by Fauxnaki on Aug 17, 2016 14:47:23 GMT -5
Rusev is THE champion in the whole of WWE right now. Outside of a few poor lines reigns has been pretty great in this feud as well.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 17, 2016 14:59:26 GMT -5
I thought the match was excellent, and was pretty surprised to come on here and see everyone talking about how terrible it was. Rusev is such a machine and one of the best performers they've got, so give him a 20 minute PPV quality match and I'm most likely going to dig it. I thought he was very convincing in his domination of Reigns and that Reigns' selling was some of the best I've seen for him. I was able to suspend disbelief and think that maybe Rusev would get the win, given that Reigns has been on his jobbing tour and he had another match with Rusev coming up for a title shot. The finish was disappointing, but barely, and didn't take away from what I perceived as high quality work from both guys. That is what making people rage. If the outcome was Rusev winning, the match would be praised. But because Roman overcame the odds and won: Worst Match Ever.
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Post by canal on Aug 17, 2016 15:20:56 GMT -5
I thought the match was excellent, and was pretty surprised to come on here and see everyone talking about how terrible it was. Rusev is such a machine and one of the best performers they've got, so give him a 20 minute PPV quality match and I'm most likely going to dig it. I thought he was very convincing in his domination of Reigns and that Reigns' selling was some of the best I've seen for him. I was able to suspend disbelief and think that maybe Rusev would get the win, given that Reigns has been on his jobbing tour and he had another match with Rusev coming up for a title shot. The finish was disappointing, but barely, and didn't take away from what I perceived as high quality work from both guys. That is what making people rage. If the outcome was Rusev winning, the match would be praised. But because Roman overcame the odds and won: Worst Match Ever. I just looked at the Raw thread and everyone was pretty much hating life throughout the match, maybe because they thought Roman winning was inevitable. Which I guess it was; they have a title match at Summerslam, the challenger isn't going to lose 6 days beforehand. But I don't care about any of that, the match was great.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 17, 2016 16:11:32 GMT -5
Thing is... People here WANT Reigns's momentum to crash. They want it to crash harder than the 1929 stock market. I know I saw at least one person basically demand that Roman become a superstars jobber... which just flat out isn't happening. That was me. Because WWE gave Roman the keys to the kingdom and he still f***ed up. And WWE have been so linearly focused on Making Roman Look Strong and f*** everyone else. And they didn't even learn from their mistake because he's still in the main event despite competing for a Midcard title. I liked Cena even at his worst, and at least him being shoved down our throats was justified. With Roman, so many others are better than him in one or more areas and I feel like the only real difference between him and any given wrestler XYZ is a push.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 16:17:10 GMT -5
I thought the match was excellent, and was pretty surprised to come on here and see everyone talking about how terrible it was. Rusev is such a machine and one of the best performers they've got, so give him a 20 minute PPV quality match and I'm most likely going to dig it. I thought he was very convincing in his domination of Reigns and that Reigns' selling was some of the best I've seen for him. I was able to suspend disbelief and think that maybe Rusev would get the win, given that Reigns has been on his jobbing tour and he had another match with Rusev coming up for a title shot. The finish was disappointing, but barely, and didn't take away from what I perceived as high quality work from both guys. That is what making people rage. If the outcome was Rusev winning, the match would be praised. But because Roman overcame the odds and won: Worst Match Ever. Long before that match ended I was calling that boring as f***. I really wasn't at all bothered by the result because one, knew it was coming, and two, it pretty much means Reigns is losing on Sunday. The match just sucked. Though really, Reigns winning IS part of the problem, namely that every single match he wins has the exact same structure - he gets his ass kicked for 20 minutes then stops selling every bit of it, Superman punch spam, most obvious spear out of nowhere after dodging his opponent's finisher. It happens every single time and it takes you completely out of things because all of his matches feel like utter filler before his damage meter fills enough to do his comeback sequence.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 17, 2016 16:21:40 GMT -5
That is what making people rage. If the outcome was Rusev winning, the match would be praised. But because Roman overcame the odds and won: Worst Match Ever. Long before that match ended I was calling that boring as f***. I really wasn't at all bothered by the result because one, knew it was coming, and two, it pretty much means Reigns is losing on Sunday. The match just sucked. I enjoyed it. I find watching RAW and not following the thread here improves my enjoyment of shows. Not to say there weren't parts that dragged. Though I enjoy a good ol' hoss fight more than others.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 16:23:34 GMT -5
Long before that match ended I was calling that boring as f***. I really wasn't at all bothered by the result because one, knew it was coming, and two, it pretty much means Reigns is losing on Sunday. The match just sucked. I enjoyed it. I find watching RAW and not following the thread here improves my enjoyment of shows. Not to say there weren't parts that dragged. Though I enjoy a good ol' hoss fight more than others. Well, glad you enjoyed it then. But personally it just did nothing for me on any level, and any time in recent years I've tried watching Raw without being on the forum I just get fed up and turn it off halfway through. I watch Raw more for joining in on the conversation on here than I do for the show itself at this point because for me the Raw thread is more reliably entertaining. But hey, if you liked it, won't take that away.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 16:26:29 GMT -5
I thought the match was excellent, and was pretty surprised to come on here and see everyone talking about how terrible it was. Rusev is such a machine and one of the best performers they've got, so give him a 20 minute PPV quality match and I'm most likely going to dig it. I thought he was very convincing in his domination of Reigns and that Reigns' selling was some of the best I've seen for him. I was able to suspend disbelief and think that maybe Rusev would get the win, given that Reigns has been on his jobbing tour and he had another match with Rusev coming up for a title shot. The finish was disappointing, but barely, and didn't take away from what I perceived as high quality work from both guys. That is what making people rage. If the outcome was Rusev winning, the match would be praised. But because Roman overcame the odds and won: Worst Match Ever. Nah, match lost it's spark way before that. The problem with the match is that not only was it mostly about Reigns selling (that's one of his worst areas) but we knew that Rusev wasn't going to win. When that Accolade hit and Reigns got out? That killed the match and confirmed the suspicions that Reigns was going over. You can claim it was high quality work from both guys, that's your opinion, but I and many others just disagree with that statement. Regardless it is what it is.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 17, 2016 16:34:51 GMT -5
That is what making people rage. If the outcome was Rusev winning, the match would be praised. But because Roman overcame the odds and won: Worst Match Ever. Nah, match lost it's spark way before that. The problem with the match is that not only was it mostly about Reigns selling (that's one of his worst areas) but we knew that Rusev wasn't going to win. When that Accolade hit and Reigns got out? That killed the match and confirmed the suspicions that Reigns was going over. You can claim it was high quality work from both guys, that's your opinion, but I and many others just disagree with that statement. Regardless it is what it is. Did people really known though that Roman was winning? Even before his suspension, Roman wasn't being booked strong and after he came back losing moreso than before. FAN swore he was winning back the WWE title after he returned and he got pinned in that match. They also thought he was going over Finn and he got pinned clean as a whistle. Even had to cut a loser promo after the match. I'm actually surprised WWE had Roman win due to how Rusev been kicking his ass through the show. And if others hated, that's their prerogative. I'm not following the crowd to blend in or trying to be a special snowflake. I liked the match. I will continue to like it in spite of the board's mood.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 16:44:30 GMT -5
Nah, match lost it's spark way before that. The problem with the match is that not only was it mostly about Reigns selling (that's one of his worst areas) but we knew that Rusev wasn't going to win. When that Accolade hit and Reigns got out? That killed the match and confirmed the suspicions that Reigns was going over. You can claim it was high quality work from both guys, that's your opinion, but I and many others just disagree with that statement. Regardless it is what it is. Did people really known though that Roman was winning? Even before his suspension, Roman wasn't being booked strong and after he came back losing moreso than before. FAN swore he was winning back the WWE title after he returned and he got pinned in that match. They also thought he was going over Finn and he got pinned clean as a whistle. Even had to cut a loser promo after the match. I'm actually surprised WWE had Roman win due to how Rusev been kicking his ass through the show. And if others hated, that's their prerogative. I'm not following the crowd to blend in or trying to be a special snowflake. I liked the match. I will continue to like it in spite of the board's mood. Nobody said you didn't have to like the match, it's great you did as you're your own person, I'm just explaining the views of I and many others. Also yeah, we did think Reigns would win the triple threat and we did think he'd beat Balor but this match just set us back up on the old "Reigns is gonna win again guys" thing which was the issue before. Even if he had those previous losses, it was back on schedule again. I'm not surprised they had Reigns win, they'll do it Sunday too given , like you said, Rusev was kicking his ass all through the show. Either way it feels as though he's back where he was main eventing even though he's going after a lesser belt. It's hard to see those losses that quickly.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 17, 2016 16:55:12 GMT -5
Did people really known though that Roman was winning? Even before his suspension, Roman wasn't being booked strong and after he came back losing moreso than before. FAN swore he was winning back the WWE title after he returned and he got pinned in that match. They also thought he was going over Finn and he got pinned clean as a whistle. Even had to cut a loser promo after the match. I'm actually surprised WWE had Roman win due to how Rusev been kicking his ass through the show. And if others hated, that's their prerogative. I'm not following the crowd to blend in or trying to be a special snowflake. I liked the match. I will continue to like it in spite of the board's mood. Nobody said you didn't have to like the match, it's great you did as you're your own person, I'm just explaining the views of I and many others. Also yeah, we did think Reigns would win the triple threat and we did think he'd beat Balor but this match just set us back up on the old "Reigns is gonna win again guys" thing which was the issue before. Even if he had those previous losses, it was back on schedule again. I'm not surprised they had Reigns win, they'll do it Sunday too given , like you said, Rusev was kicking his ass all through the show. Either way it feels as though he's back where he was main eventing even though he's going after a lesser belt. It's hard to see those losses that quickly. The problem is that people thought that when Roman got the Wellness suspension, he would fall completely from grace and be fighting the Bo Dallas and Curtis Axels of the world. And I said don't cheer because he wasn't done for as a main eventer due to him being a pet project of both Hunter & Vince. Reigns may not be fighting over a world or universal title but he still in the upper tier. WWE sees him as a future cornerstone of the company.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 17:01:24 GMT -5
Nobody said you didn't have to like the match, it's great you did as you're your own person, I'm just explaining the views of I and many others. Also yeah, we did think Reigns would win the triple threat and we did think he'd beat Balor but this match just set us back up on the old "Reigns is gonna win again guys" thing which was the issue before. Even if he had those previous losses, it was back on schedule again. I'm not surprised they had Reigns win, they'll do it Sunday too given , like you said, Rusev was kicking his ass all through the show. Either way it feels as though he's back where he was main eventing even though he's going after a lesser belt. It's hard to see those losses that quickly. The problem is that people thought that when Roman got the Wellness suspension, he would fall completely from grace and be fighting the Bo Dallas and Curtis Axels of the world. And I said don't cheer because he wasn't done for as a main eventer due to him being a pet project of both Hunter & Vince. Reigns may not be fighting over a world or universal title but he still in the upper tier. WWE sees him as a future cornerstone of the company. Not really. I and many others thought he'd be a midcarder. What we didn't expect though is Reigns closing Raws when you've got higher profiled feuds (Universal Championship, Women's Championship) going before him. That's a big statement to make. The thing is that Reigns doesn't need to fight over a world title...and yet he's still main eventing which is an issue. They don't see him as a future cornerstone, they see him as THE cornerstone given this. Let alone Reigns main evented over Balor (guy who beat Reigns and is facing the guy who beat Reigns for the brand's lead title) who unveiled his Demon form on tv. I don't think anybody would have this problem if Reigns didn't main event like now. I also don't think anyone would have this problem if he didn't utterly trounce Rusev at the end of both of these past 2 Raws. That's just...an issue. If this happened mid-show and they traded beatdowns it would be a different story.
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 17, 2016 17:16:59 GMT -5
I didn't think it needed to be the main event, and I'd prefer the win being by shenanigans no matter who won but it was good. It wasn't just a "plodfest" or whatever. It was two hosses try to beat the crap out of each other for their own reasons. That's a discussion board for ya. If people don't like something they're going to say so. People did that with Cena, and yet that didn't envelope the entire WWE section with cynicism like with Reigns. Even with people hating on Cena, the board still had a jovial fun atmosphere about it. Not really. Most Cena threads were pretty miserable and most jokes were usually at his expense. Is this another extension of the "FAN was better in the olden days!" thing or something?
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