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Post by billyvg on Aug 21, 2016 22:15:44 GMT -5
That looked like a blade job. Elbows don't cut you like that. No matter how hard you're hit, it won't cut you like that. It can do some terrible damage, but not that. It was also obvious Lesnar wasn't seriously trying to hurt Orton, and even he looked pretty stunned when he saw how bad Orton was bleeding.
My problem was the ending. I can't stress this enough. I've said it a million times already. Outside of Brawl for All the TKO has not been an ending in WWE. Usually the match is called off. In the case of what Lesnar was doing it would have been a DQ. Overall the dominance Lesnar showed made the match boring on an already boring show. It also really hurt Orton's credibility, no matter how much of a beast Lesnar appears to be.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 21, 2016 22:16:02 GMT -5
My Reaction was that it was shit, and so was this Pay Per View, but especially the last hour, the hour that was completely unnecessary...
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Aug 21, 2016 22:16:03 GMT -5
I know I'm just gonna sound like the markiest of marks, but I'm still not entirely convinced this is a work. That was a lot of blood. I think the audience was legitimately wondering if Brock was shooting. I'm kinda wondering it, too. As long as it's a work, I guess I'm...intrigued? But I think Brock needs to lose soon if there's going to be any kind of development to his character. I never thought he was going at it for real, but a part of me was(and still is) like "...Um, did you accidentally hit him a tad too strongly?"
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 21, 2016 22:16:21 GMT -5
So for a ref, where does the difference go between awarding someone the win by ref stoppage and the old "disqualified for kicking too much ass"? That's what I was wondering too. After about the third time he jumps on him again, wouldn't it make kayfabe sense to just DQ him?
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Aug 21, 2016 22:17:57 GMT -5
They build up the match, make it the main event of the second biggest show of the year, then have Orton at the best he's ever been get completely decimated and fed to known steroid cheat Brock Lesnar. It is every f***ing time with the WWE. Every time they finally get my interest back they go and do literally the most retarded thing imaginable. lol as opposed to clean as a whistle Randy Orton? Gimme a break, guy. Who fxxxing cares if Randy is clean or not, Lesnar pissed hot in a legit combat sporting event. Hence the deserved backlash.
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Post by CH Punk on Aug 21, 2016 22:18:50 GMT -5
For a split second, once Shane was down, I truly believed Bryan was going to come down and stand up to Brock. I just can't let go. There's a reason it was just Shane because they don't want to give false hope that the guy who retired from concussion issues will be coming back for a match because he got murked. Also, having said man get physical doesn't really look good. In response to the OP, it was pure f***ing shite. It's an angle that could have led to two incredibly dumb things: 1) Brock is busy with the referees so Orton gets back to his feet and RKOs him for the win. 2) Goldberg returns. None of those happened. If this wasn't supposed to happen and they hit the panic switch, here's a concept, don't book the kodiak bear to maul the guy and play it safe. The match didn't need blood and the reaction it got wasn't this is violent, it was "oh shit, I hope Orton isn't seriously hurt- OH F*** look at all that blood!"
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on Aug 21, 2016 22:18:57 GMT -5
Really lame ending to a show. Huge Brock mark, but that whole sequence was just lame. When you build something like they did Orton/Lesnar and you book it that way that's just bizarre. Especially with Lesnar riding off into the sunset for four months while Orton's heat evaporates. If Lesnar sticks around as a part of some deal he cut with Vince for the UFC thing then okay I guess. But still...who is left to work with Lesnar? Orton is legit one of their biggest stars and he was squashed. Cena was squashed. Would anyone buy Balor with Lesnar? He whipped Reigns, Ambrose and Rollins. Who is left in the company for Lesnar?
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Aug 21, 2016 22:19:41 GMT -5
lol as opposed to clean as a whistle Randy Orton? Gimme a break, guy. Lesnar cheated in an actual sporting event, an athletic competition where people can and have legitimately died in the ring and steroid use only increases that potential for someone to get hurt. Professional wrestling is as fake as anything, I don't care if Vin Diesel roids up for his new action movies. No one is getting hurt there. You can be smarmy all you want, you're the one who looks like a straight jabroni because you apparently can't tell the difference, unless you just want to shit on me, which, good f***ing luck with that haha. I know, right. That's way worse than going AWOL twice and being dishonorably discharged from the US military.
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Post by Raskovnik on Aug 21, 2016 22:20:15 GMT -5
I just don't get why you would sacrifice your entire roster to put over some dude who just got busted for cheating at the biggest UFC show ever to show off how much of a badass he is, let alone in a complete shitshow like Lesnar's last few matches have been. Where could it even go from here? Survivor Series in a heatless rematch because Orton got murdered in the ring and is like the second dude ever to lose a professional wrestling match by TKO? It isn't something that's even compelling to wait and see unfold. We saw it went, and there was nothing in doubt. I wanted Lesnar gone yesterday. I want him to go stay in his Fortress of Solitude away from MMA and wrestling for good.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Aug 21, 2016 22:20:53 GMT -5
lol as opposed to clean as a whistle Randy Orton? Gimme a break, guy. Lesnar cheated in an actual sporting event, an athletic competition where people can and have legitimately died in the ring and steroid use only increases that potential for someone to get hurt. Professional wrestling is as fake as anything, I don't care if Vin Diesel roids up for his new action movies. No one is getting hurt there. You can be smarmy all you want, you're the one who looks like a straight jabroni because you apparently can't tell the difference, unless you just want to shit on me, which, good f***ing luck with that haha. Who cares? WWE isn't a legit sporting event, Brock being on something for UFC is irrelevant. And if you can't see that, then you're the jabroni here kid.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Aug 21, 2016 22:20:55 GMT -5
Really lame ending to a show. Huge Brock mark, but that whole sequence was just lame. When you build something like they did Orton/Lesnar and you book it that way that's just bizarre. Especially with Lesnar riding off into the sunset for four months while Orton's heat evaporates. If Lesnar sticks around as a part of some deal he cut with Vince for the UFC thing then okay I guess. But still...who is left to work with Lesnar? Orton is legit one of their biggest stars and he was squashed. Cena was squashed. Would anyone buy Balor with Lesnar? He whipped Reigns, Ambrose and Rollins. Who is left in the company for Lesnar? There is one man Lesnar never beat. ...Jokes aside, our lord and savior may indeed be Roman Reigns.
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Post by lookout on Aug 21, 2016 22:20:59 GMT -5
Now you have to wonder if they will use this as a means to explain the suspension of lesnar or is this an injury angle to orton to explain a wellness violation...despite the news recently of him doing things to work a violation off and being in vince's good graces. ugh....every loss and or potential injury angle in this show has a huge question mark about it in my mind and it sucks.
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on Aug 21, 2016 22:22:18 GMT -5
When you build something like they did Orton/Lesnar and you book it that way that's just bizarre. Especially with Lesnar riding off into the sunset for four months while Orton's heat evaporates. If Lesnar sticks around as a part of some deal he cut with Vince for the UFC thing then okay I guess. But still...who is left to work with Lesnar? Orton is legit one of their biggest stars and he was squashed. Cena was squashed. Would anyone buy Balor with Lesnar? He whipped Reigns, Ambrose and Rollins. Who is left in the company for Lesnar? There is one man Lesnar never beat. ...Jokes aside, our lord and savior may indeed be Roman Reigns. It is most likely that Vince still sees Lesnar as his way to finally make Roman STRONG enough to be Cena's replacement.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Aug 21, 2016 22:22:22 GMT -5
So for a ref, where does the difference go between awarding someone the win by ref stoppage and the old "disqualified for kicking too much ass"? That's what I was wondering too. After about the third time he jumps on him again, wouldn't it make kayfabe sense to just DQ him? Hell, if nothing else DQd for jumping a dude who was getting medical attention. Attacking someone during a doctor stoppage should be like, mega-fined/and years long suspension rather than somehow winning the match haha.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Aug 21, 2016 22:22:42 GMT -5
"Look, you can't blade, but we're not going to fine anyone for a legit hardway"
Brock: "MESSAGE RECEIVED"
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Post by Renslayer on Aug 21, 2016 22:25:24 GMT -5
wait, people seriously want goldberg back? why?
edit: also, those elbows were SAVAGE. god damn
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Post by Raskovnik on Aug 21, 2016 22:26:08 GMT -5
Lesnar cheated in an actual sporting event, an athletic competition where people can and have legitimately died in the ring and steroid use only increases that potential for someone to get hurt. Professional wrestling is as fake as anything, I don't care if Vin Diesel roids up for his new action movies. No one is getting hurt there. You can be smarmy all you want, you're the one who looks like a straight jabroni because you apparently can't tell the difference, unless you just want to shit on me, which, good f***ing luck with that haha. I know, right. That's way worse than going AWOL twice and being dishonorably discharged from the US military. Has nothing to do with anything I'm saying but I see you read Orton's Wikipedia page. Lesnar cheated in an actual sporting event, an athletic competition where people can and have legitimately died in the ring and steroid use only increases that potential for someone to get hurt. Professional wrestling is as fake as anything, I don't care if Vin Diesel roids up for his new action movies. No one is getting hurt there. You can be smarmy all you want, you're the one who looks like a straight jabroni because you apparently can't tell the difference, unless you just want to shit on me, which, good f***ing luck with that haha. Who cares? WWE isn't a legit sporting event, Brock being on something for UFC is irrelevant. And if you can't see that, then you're the jabroni here kid. Lesnar's entire character and aura and product-ruining presence is built on a legacy of cheating. They're sacrificing their whole roster to feed into that and I think it's really lame. That's my point, mijo.
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Post by blake6905 on Aug 21, 2016 22:27:33 GMT -5
Joe is gonna kick this guys ass....
But seriously with those looks, I hope it doesn't lead to Shane vs Brock
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Aug 21, 2016 22:27:36 GMT -5
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Post by Corre.222 on Aug 21, 2016 22:28:06 GMT -5
Wasn't winning by TKO part of the Tensai Gimmick?
Looks like it wasn't completely ruined.
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