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Post by lionheart21 on Aug 21, 2016 22:50:54 GMT -5
Here's a shot of Orton's cut. Looks so nasty. /photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw That ain't a bladejob, thats for sure. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 22:51:42 GMT -5
Randy's previous wellness strikes were both for recreational drugs, and he reportedly spent some time in his recovery time off in a rehab facility to help deal with his old demons. Very different issues, and Randy's aren't so recent that the ink is still wet. Orton was clearly on steroids at one point. 2007:  2009:  Really even if so, one, wasn't in a competitive environment so the only problem with it's his own health and not that of others like with Brock, two he didn't potentially rob someone of a higher paycheck like Brock did, and three, Orton went to rehab recently. And four drugs or not Brock still just f***ing blows. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 21, 2016 22:52:24 GMT -5
Anyone notice how hard Orton was coming with those back elbows in the suplex near the start it seems like Orton wanted to go hard. With Brock if u dont hit him hard he will hit u harder I think most guys Brock likes working with go stiff. He worked in Japan against Nakamura and Albert, and the Taker and Cena matches were stiff. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2016 22:52:52 GMT -5
With Brock if u dont hit him hard he will hit u harder I also notice Brock doesn't really strike him in that head that much after the elbows just kinda hammer fist's and punches the arm. Yea, Brock was not going into business for himself tonight. I have no doubt that was the finish they planned but it went overboard |
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Post by Fade on Aug 21, 2016 22:54:21 GMT -5
quote author="@nichotine" source="/post/12846632/thread" timestamp="1471836848"] I just don't get why you would sacrifice your entire roster to put over some dude who just got busted for cheating at the biggest UFC show ever to show off how much of a badass he is, let alone in a complete shitshow like Lesnar's last few matches have been. Where could it even go from here? Survivor Series in a heatless rematch because Orton got murdered in the ring and is like the second dude ever to lose a professional wrestling match by TKO? It isn't something that's even compelling to wait and see unfold. We saw it went, and there was nothing in doubt. I wanted Lesnar gone yesterday. I want him to go stay in his Fortress of Solitude away from MMA and wrestling for good. I agree that the whole deal with Brock's apparent exemption from punishment is pretty annoying, but at the same time you don't want to just throw away Brock's aura on account of it either. Orton shouldn't be the guy to beat Brock, I don't know who should but it definitely shouldn't be Orton. I guess it's a wait and see deal on whether this was a spot gone wrong or if this was planned to be this way. Heaven forbid this was actually foreshadowing Shane McMahon vs. Brock Lesnar. I can't imagine that they would book two non matches in main event spots. Also how sad is it that in 2016, when Brock is at his unstoppable peak, the one man whose name gets chanted in the face of it is Goldberg?[/quote] |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2016 22:54:35 GMT -5
With Brock if u dont hit him hard he will hit u harder I think most guys Brock likes working with go stiff. He worked in Japan against Nakamura and Albert, and the Taker and Cena matches were stiff. Yea, exactly thats the way he likes to fight. When he does try to "work" you get that dumb spot at Royal Rumble when he had to put Strowman on his ass |
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Post by Emmet Russell on Aug 21, 2016 22:56:15 GMT -5
I still like Lesnar... that finish sucked though. Orton has legitimately been at his best lately. SD needed the boost, Lesnar did not. Bad finish to a bad show. SD looked awful at the end, and the guy who won't be around looked like a killer beast.  |
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Post by Crow Dust on Aug 21, 2016 22:56:34 GMT -5
I also notice Brock doesn't really strike him in that head that much after the elbows just kinda hammer fist's and punches the arm. Yea, Brock was not going into business for himself tonight. I have no doubt that was the finish they planned but it went overboard I think it went great honestly it made Brock look genuinely scary again and not just "Mayor Of Suplex City" "Brock Lesnar The Conqueror" he just looked scary the crowd actually booed him and a hush came over them people bought it big time and thats good. |
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Aug 21, 2016 22:57:45 GMT -5
Orton was clearly on steroids at one point. 2007: 2009: Really even if so, one, wasn't in a competitive environment so the only problem with it's his own health and not that of others like with Brock, two he didn't potentially rob someone of a higher paycheck like Brock did, and three, Orton went to rehab recently. And four drugs or not Brock still just f***ing blows. No, Orton just trashed hotel rooms, bullied female talents into quitting, slut shamed female talent, went to management to get people fired.... Do people have selective memory when it comes to Randy or something? |
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Post by ssdrivin on Aug 21, 2016 22:59:02 GMT -5
Look, I get that Brock is a big time name, I get that he's "legit", I get that he's supposed to be "unbeatable". But this is horseshit. I'm more tired of Brock now than I ever have been.
At this point, if anybody was going to beat Lesnar, it'd be Orton. He comes back, hot as hell, best he's ever been by all accounts, and fresh from Brock getting wellness'd in UFC. What better time to beat him than that? White hot returning top tier guy vs disgraced played out Lesnar? That's why I paid into the Network again, for this match. I haven't been watching now for a few months, but heard the buzz, and I paid up because I thought it might reignite my interest. That's how getting people hooked again works, right? Give them something to root for?
Yeah, betting on WWE to do the right thing is a stupid idea, and I should've known better, but what the hell was this crock? Is anybody ever going to beat Brock? If not, why not? You can't just have some guy floating untouchable above the entire roster, why am I ever going to believe anybody has a shot at winning? I saw Ambrose get dicked over and I didn't enjoy it, but ok, Ambrose maybe isn't main event material yet, I could accept that, but Orton? Expecting anything other than "Suplex City" is a waste of time, and this only strengthens my position, I paid to see it confirmed. What am I supposed to do, wait until HHH comes out of not-quite-retirement again? Or should I wait until some hypothetical time in the future when they maybe hire another UFC guy?
Sure, it was a spectacle, and I'm not against a little blood when necessary, but really? You're gonna straight up murder one of the best shots at ending this "streak"? At least try to let me suspend my disbelief, or just don't bother at all. I don't like to be the guy that says "right, that's it, I'm unsubscribing!", but if this is what I've come to expect and you can't prove otherwise, what do you expect?
Edit: I'd like to point out that Ambrose, being the upper-midcard kinda guy he is right now (and no disrespect meant with that, I like where he is and what he does), only got beat. He didn't get gashed open and TKO'd (seriously, is that even a thing in WWE?), how does that even work?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2016 23:00:26 GMT -5
Yea, Brock was not going into business for himself tonight. I have no doubt that was the finish they planned but it went overboard I think it went great honestly it made Brock look genuinely scary again and not just "Mayor Of Suplex City" "Brock Lesnar The Conqueror" he just looked scary the crowd actually booed him and a hush came over them people bought it big time and thats good. Thats the problem tho, Brock should of been dethroned tonight which is the vibe we all got. He treated Orton like a Jabroni, Randy F'n Orton treated like a jabroni. It's perception now, you let a guy who wont be back for another 4 months kick one of your legends ass and kill his heat. He's destroyed Cena, Taker, Orton, Ambrose, and Reigns |
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Aug 21, 2016 23:01:36 GMT -5
Clearly, a debuting Conor McGregor will beat up Brock.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Aug 21, 2016 23:02:13 GMT -5
Gotta keep Brock strong for Roman. That is the endgame. Anything that happens between it, whether with Roman or Brock is unimportant, sadly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 23:02:51 GMT -5
Orton was so great and now he looks like crap again. It's like Ambrose at WM. Lesnar really makes these guys look like bitches and no matter what happens, he's being built back up for 1 person to get a final win over him. Nah, that's not how you do it. I mean the fact remains that Lesnar can make guys but he's only hurting them since he's returned.
It's sickening.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 21, 2016 23:03:32 GMT -5
Really lame ending to a show. Huge Brock mark, but that whole sequence was just lame. Opposite for me, Brock's star was fading for me after the bust but this ending made me interested again. I'm a fickle beast. |
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Post by SenorCrest on Aug 21, 2016 23:04:07 GMT -5
Gotta keep Brock strong for Roman. That is the endgame. Anything that happens between it, whether with Roman or Brock is unimportant, sadly. Roman did lay out Rusev tonight. I honestly want to see Rusev vs Lesnar. |
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Post by Crow Dust on Aug 21, 2016 23:05:08 GMT -5
I think it went great honestly it made Brock look genuinely scary again and not just "Mayor Of Suplex City" "Brock Lesnar The Conqueror" he just looked scary the crowd actually booed him and a hush came over them people bought it big time and thats good. Thats the problem tho, Brock should of been dethroned tonight which is the vibe we all got. He treated Orton like a Jabroni, Randy F'n Orton treated like a jabroni. It's perception now, you let a guy who wont be back for another 4 months kick one of your legends ass and kill his heat. He's destroyed Cena, Taker, Orton, Ambrose, and Reigns Orton should have won but they are building to something though and i hate what they are building to but look at the two people who beat up guys to the point where they couldn't continue tonight a rumored rematch since Wrestlemania 31 Brock v Reigns and everything is pointing to it at least from my perspective it's gotta be super heel Brock and they may have just found a way for him to get booed even against Roman. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2016 23:05:42 GMT -5
Orton was so great and now he looks like crap again. It's like Ambrose at WM. Lesnar really makes these guys look like bitches and no matter what happens, he's being built back up for 1 person to get a final win over him. Nah, that's not how you do it. I mean the fact remains that Lesnar can make guys but he's only hurting them since he's returned. It's sickening. Its worse than Ambrose imo. He literally beat the shit out of a legend. This was a match years in the making their first "big time" match not counting the smackdown match and they squandered it so Brock can disappear |
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Post by MAD TITAN on Aug 21, 2016 23:06:40 GMT -5
I wish this company would stop lying to themselves when they say they're a PG-family company.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 23:06:41 GMT -5
Gotta keep Brock strong for Roman. That is the endgame. Anything that happens between it, whether with Roman or Brock is unimportant, sadly. Which I really don't get twice over. One, Lesnar can lose more than one match. It's not gonna completely kill his aura to lose once, not remotely, especially given both tonight and at Mania he had outs for losing. Two, honestly I think Reigns beating Lesnar would do him more harm than good. Don't think there is even the slightest bit of a benefit to having Reigns pin him besides something they can point to in video packages and go, "See?! He doesn't do shit for business and everyone hates him, but he's awesome! Look!" And how the hell didn't they do the F5 into RKO spot? Why make the match otherwise? |
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