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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 3, 2016 10:51:12 GMT -5
We always clown about how they take all the former WWE guys and push them over their own with most of it being fruitless. However, they have had some guys come in and actually play their part and as a result put some value back in their name.
Christian is an easy one as he proved he can hold his own with the bigger guys. Lashley has looked like a monster anytime he's held the belt and imo is booked the way Lesnar could of been if he was full time. Even Drew Galloway has put some value on his name and is not just another body for the roster.
Who do you think came to TNA and increased their value
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Post by wankah on Sept 3, 2016 11:25:55 GMT -5
Lately, Matt Hardy.
Had he left earlier, or had he had something proper to do there, I'd say Rhino, but that Dixieland shite was the final straw. Guess the same could be somewhat applied to Raven, but after that controversy in Canada rubbish he was a waste and that second time around wasn't anything spectacular either.
Do guys like Eli Drake and EC3 count? They have history with wwe, but neither of them was really a household name there. What about Bully Ray? Buh Buh going solo and proving his worth, but in the end he went back to wwe to be Dudley again, and by doing so ending the whole Bully Ray thing all together.
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Post by r. on Sept 3, 2016 11:43:45 GMT -5
EC3 he really came into his own.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 3, 2016 11:57:27 GMT -5
Lately, Matt Hardy. Had he left earlier, or had he had something proper to do there, I'd say Rhino, but that Dixieland shite was the final straw. Guess the same could be somewhat applied to Raven, but after that controversy in Canada rubbish he was a waste and that second time around wasn't anything spectacular either. Do guys like Eli Drake and EC3 count? They have history with wwe, but neither of them was really a household name there. What about Bully Ray? Buh Buh going solo and proving his worth, but in the end he went back to wwe to be Dudley again, and by doing so ending the whole Bully Ray thing all together. This isnt strictly WWE talk. In general who increased their brand in TNA |
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Post by wankah on Sept 3, 2016 12:28:53 GMT -5
Well, in that case, scrap Raven and rhino as they were never anywhere near the heights of their peaks in ECW. Guess without their spots in TNA there wouldn't be many opportunities for Eli Drake and EC3, so I'll go with them.
There are many borderline cases of the early years and especially the x-division as the most of them worked ROH as well, so it's just a matter of what one values the most, Low Ki being the prime example of this.
By the way, whatever happened to Sonny Siaki and Matt Bentley?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 3, 2016 12:38:10 GMT -5
Lashley
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 3, 2016 12:50:39 GMT -5
Gail Kim, definitely. Both her WWE runs were total burn outs, but she has defined TNA's women's division from day one.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 3, 2016 13:06:30 GMT -5
Well, in that case, scrap Raven and rhino as they were never anywhere near the heights of their peaks in ECW. Guess without their spots in TNA there wouldn't be many opportunities for Eli Drake and EC3, so I'll go with them. There are many borderline cases of the early years and especially the x-division as the most of them worked ROH as well, so it's just a matter of what one values the most, Low Ki being the prime example of this. By the way, whatever happened to Sonny Siaki and Matt Bentley? Sonny Siaki if I remember correctly had to retire after giving one his family members a kidney or something like that. Shannon Moore I have no clue on. He came in with Jeff and quickly disappeared. I think after his Inc Inc run he left. |
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Sept 3, 2016 13:10:18 GMT -5
Does Kazarian count? Shannon Moore? Matt Morgan?
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Post by chazraps on Sept 3, 2016 13:24:02 GMT -5
Scott Steiner is probably remembered a lot more fondly thanks to his TNA run as opposed to had he retired following his departure from WWE.
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Post by wankah on Sept 3, 2016 13:41:25 GMT -5
Well, in that case, scrap Raven and rhino as they were never anywhere near the heights of their peaks in ECW. Guess without their spots in TNA there wouldn't be many opportunities for Eli Drake and EC3, so I'll go with them. There are many borderline cases of the early years and especially the x-division as the most of them worked ROH as well, so it's just a matter of what one values the most, Low Ki being the prime example of this. By the way, whatever happened to Sonny Siaki and Matt Bentley? Sonny Siaki if I remember correctly had to retire after giving one his family members a kidney or something like that. Shannon Moore I have no clue on. He came in with Jeff and quickly disappeared. I think after his Inc Inc run he left. Well, good on Sonny for doing that. But the other one, speggy there, was talking about Matt Bentley or Michael Shane I think his name was first. The cousin of Shawn Michaels, who actually seemed to be heading places at some point. I know him and Shannon both looked like tossers and wrestled the same style, but Bentley was the one who was there for a longer period of time and he was a bit tubbier than Shannon. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 3, 2016 13:44:47 GMT -5
Sonny Siaki if I remember correctly had to retire after giving one his family members a kidney or something like that. Shannon Moore I have no clue on. He came in with Jeff and quickly disappeared. I think after his Inc Inc run he left. Well, good on Sonny for doing that. But the other one, speggy there, was talking about Matt Bentley or Michael Shane I think his name was first. The cousin of Shawn Michaels, who actually seemed to be heading places at some point. I know him and Shannon both looked like tossers and wrestled the same style, but Bentley was the one who was there for a longer period of time and he was a bit tubbier than Shannon. Right be getting him and Shannon confused. I think he stopped wrestling a long time ago if I remember correctly. Hell, last time I remember seeing him in TNA is like 2006. I do remember hearing a few years ago he retired tho. |
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Post by Reflecto on Sept 3, 2016 13:58:22 GMT -5
This isnt strictly WWE talk. In general who increased their brand in TNA If it's that definition, then people forget the most obvious one there: AJ Styles. Shortly before TNA began: Offered a developmental deal, to OVW, which Styles had to refuse because it didn't pay him enough to justify moving his family to Louisville. After Styles left TNA, as a multi-time triple crown champ- he was able to walk into New Japan, win the IWGP Title in his first match, then when he left New Japan enter a WWE contract on the main roster with an almost immediate main event push. If THAT'S not increasing your value in TNA, NOTHING IS. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 3, 2016 14:19:37 GMT -5
Lately, Matt Hardy. Had he left earlier, or had he had something proper to do there, I'd say Rhino, but that Dixieland shite was the final straw. Guess the same could be somewhat applied to Raven, but after that controversy in Canada rubbish he was a waste and that second time around wasn't anything spectacular either. Do guys like Eli Drake and EC3 count? They have history with wwe, but neither of them was really a household name there. What about Bully Ray? Buh Buh going solo and proving his worth, but in the end he went back to wwe to be Dudley again, and by doing so ending the whole Bully Ray thing all together. EC3 counts, since he was on "TV" (even if just NXT, he was still performing live in the same arenas as RAW and SmackDown, so he was technically part of the main roster already). Eli Drake doesn't count since he never made TV iirc. Scott Steiner is probably remembered a lot more fondly thanks to his TNA run as opposed to had he retired following his departure from WWE. This. People know Steiner more for "HE'S FAT" than anything he ever did in WWE OR WCW. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 3, 2016 14:25:29 GMT -5
This isnt strictly WWE talk. In general who increased their brand in TNA If it's that definition, then people forget the most obvious one there: AJ Styles. Shortly before TNA began: Offered a developmental deal, to OVW, which Styles had to refuse because it didn't pay him enough to justify moving his family to Louisville. After Styles left TNA, as a multi-time triple crown champ- he was able to walk into New Japan, win the IWGP Title in his first match, then when he left New Japan enter a WWE contract on the main roster with an almost immediate main event push. If THAT'S not increasing your value in TNA, NOTHING IS. Of course AJ hands down. Still funny how at the end TNA was still trying to make it seem like he was someone who still had to break through the glass ceiling and he was still living off potential. |
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Post by berlynwright on Sept 3, 2016 14:25:33 GMT -5
Lashley
Went from Vince's flavor of the month to one of the best booked world champions in TNA history. He also keeps getting MMA offers here and there.
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Post by wankah on Sept 3, 2016 14:53:43 GMT -5
I think Kazarian's another of them borderline cases, really found his true calling with Daniels and that laid the foundation for the team that is currently known as Addiction. Bad Influence didn't gain much, but they was well recognized and appreciated by many. One of them without TNA cases for me. As a singles star, I'd probably be reading them vanilla claims on the internet and Eddie Edwards would be working Xplosion had things gone differently. Yeah, Davey would still be out with a concussion.
But Amazing Red and Sonjay Dutt are fair nominations.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Sept 3, 2016 15:20:45 GMT -5
Lately, Matt Hardy. Had he left earlier, or had he had something proper to do there, I'd say Rhino, but that Dixieland shite was the final straw. Guess the same could be somewhat applied to Raven, but after that controversy in Canada rubbish he was a waste and that second time around wasn't anything spectacular either. I agree with your points about Rhino and Raven, but what is this 'controversy in Canada' you mentioned about Raven? |
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Post by eDemento2099 on Sept 3, 2016 15:26:11 GMT -5
TNA made much better use of Sabu than WWE, but like Raven and Rhino, Sabu's value was at its prime before he went to WWE. (In Sabu's case, he probably made the most money while wrestling in Japan, and his fame was probably at an all-time high during the mid-90s in ECW.)
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Post by wankah on Sept 3, 2016 15:59:15 GMT -5
Lately, Matt Hardy. Had he left earlier, or had he had something proper to do there, I'd say Rhino, but that Dixieland shite was the final straw. Guess the same could be somewhat applied to Raven, but after that controversy in Canada rubbish he was a waste and that second time around wasn't anything spectacular either. I agree with your points about Rhino and Raven, but what is this 'controversy in Canada' you mentioned about Raven? Right before the tv-show was debuting on Spike TV, Raven was the champ, some nwa affiliate held a show where Raven dropped the belt back to Jarrett as Storm and Harris interfered on behalf of the Tennessee almighty. Seriously, am I being worked here, or was that a proper question, bro? I got all the Ruce-gifs waiting on my pc to leash out. |
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