schma
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Post by schma on Sept 17, 2016 3:30:50 GMT -5
That has nothing to do with keyfabe though i mean at this point im wondering if you even know what the word means Keyfabe means... like... "in the sport". Looking at the accomplishments as if it was all a shoot. So, translating it to another sport: If the LA RAMS got 33% more draft picks than the Cleveland Browns; What team is being favored? What team is being given a bigger chance to succed by the NFL? For this example to work, the Rams would also have to be playing 33% longer games than the Browns. Otherwise it's apples and oranges.
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saintpat
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Post by saintpat on Sept 17, 2016 6:17:46 GMT -5
Can we have some decorum please?
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Post by eJm on Sept 17, 2016 6:19:35 GMT -5
Look, at some point, Smackdown will be 3 hours too so this argument would be moot and they'll BOTH be the A Show.
(I'm 95% joking)
Seriously, if we're having this discussion, Raw and Smackdown are both on USA so they expect them both to be some kind of A Show except on different days, time advantage or no time advantage. If we were back to the days where Smackdown jumped from network to network, I'd agree with you but in kayfabe, Vince practically yelled out 'THEY'RE BOTH EQUAL NOW BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET A BETTER DEAL FROM USA IN A FEW YEARS TO KEEP US GOING!'
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Sept 17, 2016 7:43:03 GMT -5
The King gimmick worked for Booker and no one since. Stop doing it. A guy can win King of The Ring without suddenly thinking he's a pro-wrestling medieval king. Exactly. Can you imagine if they'd done the goofy king gimmick with guys like Austin or Lesnar? Dead in the water.
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Post by Malibu Stacy on Sept 17, 2016 11:59:52 GMT -5
I now demand a Stardust and the Cosmic King comic book one-shot.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 17, 2016 12:13:39 GMT -5
Not turning him face after his Bad News gimmick got over big with everyone, instead killing it entirely, was one of the more baffling creative decisions WWE Creative has made in the last decade.
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Post by Jim Stansel on Sept 18, 2016 11:29:57 GMT -5
Are we saying keyfabe ironically? Its kayfabe right? Did I miss something?
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Post by Mid-Carder on Sept 18, 2016 11:42:13 GMT -5
It's not really WWE's fault. King verbally annihilated him with his "maybe next week you won't be around" and it's just very hard to gain any credibility after such a self-esteem-destroying burn.
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schma
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Post by schma on Sept 18, 2016 13:48:39 GMT -5
Are we saying keyfabe ironically? Its kayfabe right? Did I miss something? I think it's a typo people just went with. Like when they use the wrong canon/cannon.
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Post by edgestar on Sept 18, 2016 13:54:04 GMT -5
It's not really WWE's fault. King verbally annihilated him with his "maybe next week you won't be around" and it's just very hard to gain any credibility after such a self-esteem-destroying burn. He STILL hasn't recovered from the proud nod.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Sept 18, 2016 13:54:57 GMT -5
It's not really WWE's fault. King verbally annihilated him with his "maybe next week you won't be around" and it's just very hard to gain any credibility after such a self-esteem-destroying burn. He STILL hasn't recovered from the proud nod. None of us have.
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Post by Jim Stansel on Sept 18, 2016 14:34:18 GMT -5
Are we saying keyfabe ironically? Its kayfabe right? Did I miss something? I think it's a typo people just went with. Like when they use the wrong canon/cannon. What i assumed. Didnt know if I missed a meme.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Sept 19, 2016 9:56:23 GMT -5
The King gimmick worked for Booker and no one since. Stop doing it. A guy can win King of The Ring without suddenly thinking he's a pro-wrestling medieval king. You just reminded me that King Sheamus was actually a thing. Man that was forgettable!
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Push R Truth
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Post by Push R Truth on Sept 19, 2016 10:03:43 GMT -5
The King gimmick worked for Booker and no one since. Stop doing it. A guy can win King of The Ring without suddenly thinking he's a pro-wrestling medieval king. You just reminded me that King Sheamus was actually a thing. Man that was forgettable! Sheamus is the King of Forgettable. If you start listing of career accomplishments your mind will keep saying "Oh yeaaaah, forgot about that" His career reads like a first ballot Hall of Fame All Time Great. But one year after he retires most will forget he ever existed. He's the Horace Grant to Cena's Micheal Jordan and Orton's Scotty Pippen.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Sept 19, 2016 10:16:49 GMT -5
The King gimmick worked for Booker and no one since. Stop doing it. A guy can win King of The Ring without suddenly thinking he's a pro-wrestling medieval king. You just reminded me that King Sheamus was actually a thing. Man that was forgettable! I believe you mean King Sheamus the Unwinning.
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Post by taker1990 on Sept 19, 2016 11:10:44 GMT -5
Sunny should hire BNB to follow her around and he'd have work4life.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Sept 19, 2016 12:04:02 GMT -5
I now demand a Stardust and the Cosmic King comic book one-shot. I feel it. I feel the cosmos!
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Post by avenger on Sept 19, 2016 15:43:19 GMT -5
What killed his career in WWE was him getting over on his own. For some weird reason that I will never understand, Vince doesn't like to see anyone get over on their own. Just as Daniel Bryan, Cesare, and Zach Ryder. In his mind, if Vince can't get you over, you don't deserve to get over in any way. Speaking of Cesaro, I think they dropped the ball on the whole disgruntled Raw employee thing. They could have had him come out periodically in worked/shoot promos where expresses his contempt for the Raw product and Raw management. Then, this could have led to a series of matches where he is ultimately competing to get out of his Raw contract and go to Smackdown. I think they're still going down this route. Foley suggested there might be a "Championship opportunity" to the winner of the best of seven. Since then, the commentary team haven't mentioned it, only Sheamus and Cesaro have. If the Championship opportunity is for Rusev's title, I can imagine the winner being disgruntled.
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Post by somsta on Sept 19, 2016 18:59:10 GMT -5
It's not really WWE's fault. King verbally annihilated him with his "maybe next week you won't be around" and it's just very hard to gain any credibility after such a self-esteem-destroying burn. Exactly. That killed him. I don't know about anyone else but whenever BNB came out after that I was like 'but is he going to be here NEXT week?' It was all so confusing.
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