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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 9, 2016 15:29:00 GMT -5
That time they had AJ Styles and Kurt Angle do an embarrassing re-enactment of the Montreal Screwjob and made it in to an angle about Earl Hebner that got dropped in a few weeks. The worst (best?) part about this particular rehash was that this was just before their 'permanent' move over to Monday nights, and Hebner's "I screwed Bret!" schtick came weeks after Bret and Shawn buried the hatchet live on Raw. It could not have looked sadder or more bush league to anyone following both shows at the time.
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 9, 2016 19:59:07 GMT -5
Feast or Fired
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Oct 9, 2016 22:23:50 GMT -5
In the last couple years, The Bound for Glory gauntlet match is just a thinly reskinned Royal Rumble (or yanno, Royal Ramble) rather than an actual gauntlet match.
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Post by Lazy peon on Oct 9, 2016 22:25:50 GMT -5
Not just a rip off, a rip off totally ruined by being so overdone. And even more ridiculous, the firings were used to actually fire wrestlers for real, without the wrestlers knowing beforehand. (maybe that only happened once I don't remember)
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Post by Glitch on Oct 9, 2016 23:30:50 GMT -5
Funny thing is that the best stuff is when they let you know they are ripping off wwe. Like Stone Cold Shark boy and Black Machismo.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 0:07:16 GMT -5
They even had Angle spit on Hogan. It was embarrassing. When Gaburick started booking we had Eric Young ripping off Daniel Bryan and also Black Evolution with MVP, Kenny King, and Lashley. They didn't even try to hide that, because they even did the Evolution like poses. Immortal was trying to be the modern NWO. 3/3/11 Another reason why it was justified was the fact it did boast TNA ratings that week. Speaking of NWO. How many times has TNA done that before?
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Post by Reflecto on Oct 10, 2016 0:13:53 GMT -5
{Spoiler}From the spoilers: The turn for Allie against Maria.
Go with the put upon lackey standing up for herself...
OR...
...put her in a storyline where the evil leader of the Knockouts...
...proceeds to humiliate the woman who has a problem with her...
...by bringing her relationship with the worker on the roster with a beard public...
...as well as claiming said bearded worker is currently having an affair with a person portrayed by Chelsea Green.
...clearly, they had to go with plan B, right?
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Post by 67 more on Oct 10, 2016 3:22:53 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure TNA ripoff a couple taker/kane/mankind storyline for Abyss. Abyss is a total rip off of Kane and Mankind. Only angle he had that wasn't zerox from Kane was him becoming Joseph Park. It predated Corporate Kane by a couple of weeks. It predated Corporate Kane by a year and a half. Joseph showed up in mid 2012, Kane became Korporate at the end of 2013. However, when Kane became Korporate, Joseph had already reverted back to Abyss. TNA then proceed to make Abyss the Kane to Magnus's Orton by making him a suited lackey.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Oct 10, 2016 4:07:08 GMT -5
Abyss is a total rip off of Kane and Mankind. Only angle he had that wasn't zerox from Kane was him becoming Joseph Park. It predated Corporate Kane by a couple of weeks. Remember when the character arc of Abyss managed to become one of the longest running angles they had ever had at the time? Shit was f***ing rough, especially if you actually liked him beforehand. *Meekly raises hand as someone that used to really like Abyss.....about a decade ago....* The answer for me is the Eric Young world title win. That's pretty much when I went from die hard fanboy to f*** Ditzy asking for her to be fired so someone else could come in.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 10, 2016 4:39:08 GMT -5
Not just a rip off, a rip off totally ruined by being so overdone. And even more ridiculous, the firings were used to actually fire wrestlers for real, without the wrestlers knowing beforehand. (maybe that only happened once I don't remember) It happened at least twice. One was the Chavo one that most people by now know, and the other, they were going to use it to fire Deener, and Daivari took the bullet instead, knowing ahead of time what they were planning. He wanted out, anyway, and wanted to spare Deener in the process. So naturally, TNA fired Deener not terribly long after, anyway. As for the Eric Young as Daniel Bryan thing, I remember Dixie boasting that Eric had a long beard first, as if that was the point of contention, rather than the circumstances of Eric's win.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 10, 2016 5:10:34 GMT -5
Not just a rip off, a rip off totally ruined by being so overdone. And even more ridiculous, the firings were used to actually fire wrestlers for real, without the wrestlers knowing beforehand. (maybe that only happened once I don't remember) It happened at least twice. One was the Chavo one that most people by now know, and the other, they were going to use it to fire Deener, and Daivari took the bullet instead, knowing ahead of time what they were planning. He wanted out, anyway, and wanted to spare Deener in the process. So naturally, TNA fired Deener not terribly long after, anyway. From what I remember, management wanted to cut Deaner, and he stood out like a sore thumb in the line-up of that match, but management wanted to have Daivari and Deaner come down together with the case, and have them battle over it for a couple weeks. But they wouldn't disclose the endgame of the angle to Daivari, so he smelled a rat and wanted out.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 10, 2016 9:25:32 GMT -5
I don't know if this could be considered but the "EV1" invasion and "Hardcore Justice" /ECW + One night stand I can't think of anything TNA ever did that was more bush-league than trying to re-do ECW long after the bloom had come off the rose on ECW reunion shows, and not even being able to use the word ECW.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 10, 2016 9:42:24 GMT -5
I don't know if this could be considered but the "EV1" invasion and "Hardcore Justice" /ECW + One night stand I can't think of anything TNA ever did that was more bush-league than trying to re-do ECW long after the bloom had come off the rose on ECW reunion shows, and not even being able to use the word ECW. and running a One Night Stand show honoring... that production from philly, with such greats as Kahoneys. and the voice of and mastermind weren't involved because they were still working somewhere else... or whatever they said.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 10, 2016 9:43:59 GMT -5
I can't think of anything TNA ever did that was more bush-league than trying to re-do ECW long after the bloom had come off the rose on ECW reunion shows, and not even being able to use the word ECW. and running a One Night Stand show honoring... that production from philly, with such greats as Kahoneys. and the voice of and mastermind weren't involved because they were still working somewhere else... or whatever they said. and remember how classic... that Philly promotion would use Sin Cara's mood lighting for whole shows?
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 10, 2016 14:30:30 GMT -5
We joke about how somehow storylines in TNA mirror WWE in this ironic fashion but majority of the time it's not ironic but purely blatant. Name times it was blatant in your eyes and no excuses can be made about them ripping off a WWE event or storyline. Obviously first example is when Eric Young was given the title right after the Daniel Bryan win. Having him fight through the gauntlet and defeat Magnus was as blatant as you can get. Wasn't that taped when they were still in Vince's "f*** YOU YOU GET BATISTA VS ORTON!" phase? I remember people justifying it because Sting was the payoff. 2/21/11 was about Undertaker but people also assumed Sting would be involved even though Sting was still in a TNA contract. Sting WAS the payoff of the original. They were in negotiations and the deal was pretty close to done, but it fell through. The 3/3/11 thing was only one week, and frankly probably falls under parody, like it's TNA saying "Hey, Sting is HERE next week, not WWE."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 14:46:01 GMT -5
I don't know if this could be considered but the "EV1" invasion and "Hardcore Justice" /ECW + One night stand I can't think of anything TNA ever did that was more bush-league than trying to re-do ECW long after the bloom had come off the rose on ECW reunion shows, and not even being able to use the word ECW. Hardcore Justice was one of the most embarrassing wrestling shows I've seen. A figure show to a company you can't legally refer to. It was probably a coincidence but the ECW stuff started soon after the Nexus had their awesome chaotic debut, so it was hard not to draw comparisons when the ECW guys came out and had a fairly similar beatdown debut that wasn't nearly as good.
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Post by 111111 on Oct 10, 2016 14:46:32 GMT -5
I can't think of anything TNA ever did that was more bush-league than trying to re-do ECW long after the bloom had come off the rose on ECW reunion shows, and not even being able to use the word ECW. and the voice of and mastermind weren't involved because they were still working somewhere else... or whatever they said. At least "The Blue Tilly" could make it.....
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 10, 2016 16:26:54 GMT -5
I can't think of anything TNA ever did that was more bush-league than trying to re-do ECW long after the bloom had come off the rose on ECW reunion shows, and not even being able to use the word ECW. and running a One Night Stand show honoring... that production from philly, with such greats as Kahoneys. and the voice of and mastermind weren't involved because they were still working somewhere else... or whatever they said. You know it's weak when it seemed more forced than TNA doing "The Band" nWo reunion of Nash, Hall, and Sean Waltman, but unable to use nWo in any way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 19:52:08 GMT -5
and running a One Night Stand show honoring... that production from philly, with such greats as Kahoneys. and the voice of and mastermind weren't involved because they were still working somewhere else... or whatever they said. You know it's weak when it seemed more forced than TNA doing "The Band" nWo reunion of Nash, Hall, and Sean Waltman, but unable to use nWo in any way. Atleast with The Band, they were able to uses the wolfpac theme.
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Post by Shark on Oct 12, 2016 23:18:05 GMT -5
We joke about how somehow storylines in TNA mirror WWE in this ironic fashion but majority of the time it's not ironic but purely blatant. Name times it was blatant in your eyes and no excuses can be made about them ripping off a WWE event or storyline. Obviously first example is when Eric Young was given the title right after the Daniel Bryan win. Having him fight through the gauntlet and defeat Magnus was as blatant as you can get. Wasn't that taped when they were still in Vince's "f*** YOU YOU GET BATISTA VS ORTON!" phase? No, TNA did that on a live Impact like 10 days after Bryan's win at Mania.
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