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Post by fw91 on Nov 20, 2016 22:46:40 GMT -5
I AM f***ING INFURIATED! A nearly two year long build as an unstoppable monster that included ENDING THE STREAK ends not to a rising star that could have used the rub, but to a f***ing part timer that ends in less than a minute? Seriously? We can get all pissed off to hyperbolic levels when RAW is subpar but we can accept this? The streak ending is now rendered pointless. A squash to a part timer? f*** off I think we're all just more accepting of the fact by now that the end of the road with Lesnar was gonna be a guy beating him that doesn't need it. It's really fascinating to me that WWE gets so precious about guys like Brock, but then Goldberg comes around and they let him throw Lesnar around and pin him in minutes because he planned a fun family vacation around it. It's throwing money away but if it wasn't him it was gonna be someone like Cena or Reigns. Maybe at least now this humanizes Brock and he can have more competitive matches with other guys. I love the idea of end-boss tank Lesnar, but this has been moving at a snail's pace even for me and there's not a sign that they've been even trying to make someone Lesnar ready so it is what it is to me. I guess. I really think that what pisses me off about this the most, was that if this is the end game of The Conquerer, and considering that Taker won his two post Lesnar mania matches, the streak should have never ended.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 23:08:05 GMT -5
I think we're all just more accepting of the fact by now that the end of the road with Lesnar was gonna be a guy beating him that doesn't need it. It's really fascinating to me that WWE gets so precious about guys like Brock, but then Goldberg comes around and they let him throw Lesnar around and pin him in minutes because he planned a fun family vacation around it. It's throwing money away but if it wasn't him it was gonna be someone like Cena or Reigns. Maybe at least now this humanizes Brock and he can have more competitive matches with other guys. I love the idea of end-boss tank Lesnar, but this has been moving at a snail's pace even for me and there's not a sign that they've been even trying to make someone Lesnar ready so it is what it is to me. I guess. I really think that what pisses me off about this the most, was that if this is the end game of The Conquerer, and considering that Taker won his two post Lesnar mania matches, the streak should have never ended. I can't say I disagree. I'm just too used to being underwhelmed now. I still think Lesnar was the right guy to beat the streak, and in all likelihood Lesnar will come to Raw, bop guys around and be Brock Lesnar again, I don't think this match will be as damaging as it seems. Maybe there's a bigger picture here that will justify the loss anyways as doubtful as it seems. In WWE's eyes, Brock lost in minutes flat to Goldberg, but that's Goldberg, these other chumps are still target practice. I hope there's more thought here than that, but this is what I'm used to.
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Post by hbkid718 on Nov 20, 2016 23:09:59 GMT -5
Here are the 2016 Facts for Survivor Series: - Noam Dar, TJ Perkins, & Rich Swann VS Ariya Daivari, Drew Gulak, & Tony Nese was the 42nd 6-Man Tag Team Match of 2016, the 1st since Raw on November 14, Swann & Dar’s PPV debut, Daivari, Gulak, & Nese’s 2nd PPV opener in a row, & Perkins’ 1st PPV opener - Kane VS Luke Harper was Kane’s 1st PPV since Backlash on September 11 & Harper’s 1st PPV since Fastlane on February 21 - Sasha Banks, Bayley, Charlotte Flair, Alicia Fox, & Nia Jax VS Alexa Bliss, Carmella, Becky Lynch, Naomi, & Natalya was the 3rd 10-Person Tag Team Match of 2016 & 1st since 2016, the 6th Elimination Match of 2016 & 1st since Backlash on September 11, the 1st time since Battleground on July 24 that the Women’s Championship was not defended, Alicia Fox & Nia Jax’s 1st PPV since Clash of Champions on September 25, & Becky Lynch & Natalya’s 1st PPV since Backlash on September 11 - Sami Zayn VS The Miz was the 19th Intercontinental Championship Match of 2016, the 1st since Smackdown on November 15, the only match to be a re-match at Survivor Series, & their 4th re-match overall - Enzo Amore & Big Cass, The Club, Cesaro & Sheamus, The New Day, & The Shining Stars VS American Alpha, Breezango, The Hype Bros, Rhyno & Heath Slater, & The Usos was the 1st 20-Man Tag Team Match of 2016, the 7th Elimination Match of 2016, the 1st time since WrestleMania 32 on April 3 that the WWE Tag Team Championship was not defended, The Shining Stars’ PPV debut, Kofi Kingston’s 1st PPV since Clash of Champions on September 25, Breezango’s 1st PPV since SummerSlam on August 21, & Cesaro & Big E’s 50th match of 2016, making them the 15th & 16th wrestlers to compete in 50 matches or more on TV & PPV in WWE in 2016 - Kalisto VS Brian Kendrick was the 5th Cruiserweight Championship Match of 2016, the 1st since Raw on October 31, Kalisto’s 1st PPV match since Money In The Bank on June 19, & Kalisto’s 50th match of 2016, making him the 17th wrestler to compete in 50 matches on TV & PPV in WWE in 2016, the 50th Disqualification of 2015, the 1st DQ overall since NXT on November 16, & the 1st on PPV since Hell In A Cell on October 30 - Chris Jericho, Kevin Owens, Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, & Braun Strowman VS Dean Ambrose, Shane McMahon, Randy Orton, AJ Styles, & Bray Wyatt was the 4th 10-Person Tag Team Match of 2016, the 8th Elimination Match of 2016, the 1st time since Fastlane on February 21 that there was no World or Universal Championship Match, the 1st PPV of 2016 that the United States Championship was not defended, Shane McMahon’s 1st PPV since WrestleMania 32 on April 3, Braun Strowman’s 1st PPV since Battleground on July 24, & Jericho’s 1st PPV since Clash of Champions of September 25 - Goldberg VS Brock Lesnar was Lesnar’s 1st Main Event & match since SummerSlam on August 21, Goldberg’s 1st match since he defeated Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania 20 on March 14, 2004, & the 2nd PPV in a row that the World Title was not the main event
Here are facts for Survivor Series History: - The 3 Survivor Series Elimination Matches brought the count to 78, & was the 14th year in a row there was Elimination Matches at a Survivor Series PPV, & the 1st time since 2009 that there was 3 Elimination Matches - This was the 3rd year that there was a Team Raw at a Survivor Series, after 2005 & 2008, & with the 3 teams, it brought the count to 6 teams, making it the most used Team Name in SS History - This will be the 1st time that multiple teams used the same name at the same event & the 1st time that a Men’s & Women’s Team have used the same name - Noam Dar, TJ Perkins, & Rich Swann VS Ariya Daivari, Drew Gulak, & Tony Nese was the 30th KickOff Match in SS History & 8th year in a row, the 3rd 6-Man Tag Team Match in SS History & 1st since 2001, & everyone’s SS debut - Kane VS Luke Harper was Kane’s 18th Survivor Series Match, 3rd in a row, 1st singles match since 2010, & 1st ever Pre-Show Match & Harper’s 4th Survivor Series in a row, 1st singles match at a SS & 1st ever Pre-Show Match - Sasha Banks, Bayley, Charlotte Flair, Alicia Fox, & Nia Jax VS Alexa Bliss, Carmella, Becky Lynch, Naomi, & Natalya was the 1st time since 2013 that the Diva’s/Women’s Title was not defended at a Survivor Series PPV, the 1st Women’s Survivor Series Match since 2014, but that was an 8-Women’s Tag Team Match, the 1st 10-Women’s Survivor Series Match since 2009, Banks, Bayley, & Jax’s Survivor Series debut, Flair’s 2nd Survivor Series PPV in a row & 1st Survivor Series Match, was Fox’s 3rd Survivor Series PPV & 1st since 2014, her 3rd Survivor Series Match, & 1st since 2014, was Bliss, Carmella, & Lynch’s Survivor Series debut, Naomi’s 3rd Survivor Series PPV, her 1st since 2014, her 3rd Survivor Series Match, her 1st since 2014, & Natalya’s 5th Survivor Series PPV & 1st since 2014, 4th Survivor Series Match & 1st since 2014, everyone’s 1st Survivor Series opener, the 1st Women’s Match to open up Survivor Series since a Mixed Tag Team Match (Steve Blackman, Crash, & Molly Holly VS Test, Albert, & Trish Stratus) in 2000, Carmella was Alicia’s 2nd elimination in a Survivor Series Match, Sasha was Natalya’ 3rd elimination in a Survivor Series Match, everyone else’s 1st elimination in a Survivor Series Match, Alicia was the 47th person to be eliminated by Count Out, 1st ever woman to be eliminated by Count Out, & 3rd year in a row someone was eliminated by Count Out, & the 1st time that Bayley & Charlotte were Survivors - Sami Zayn VS The Miz was the 7th Intercontinental Championship Match at a Survivor Series PPV, & 1st since 2013, was Zayn’s Survivor Series debut, Miz’s 9th Survivor Series PPV, 6th in a row, 1st singles match at a Survivor Series since 2013, but 1st on the main show since 2007, & 1st Intercontinental Championship Match at a Survivor Series PPV - Enzo Amore & Big Cass, The Club, Cesaro & Sheamus, The New Day, & The Shining Stars VS American Alpha, Breezango, The Hype Bros, Rhyno & Heath Slater, & The Usos was the 3rd 20-Man Tag Team Elimination Match in SS History & 1st since 1988, was the 2nd year in a row that the Tag Team Championship was not defended at a Survivor Series PPV, Amore & Cass & Anderson & Gallows’ Survivor Series debut, Cesaro’s 4th Survivor Series PPV & 1st since 2014, his 2nd Survivor Series Match, 1st since 2013, was The Shining Stars’ 3rd Survivor Series PPV, 1st since 2014, their 2nd Survivor Series Match, 1st since 2012, was Big E’s 3rd Survivor Series PPV & 2nd in a row, his 2nd Survivor Series Match & 2nd in a row, was Kingston’s 8th Survivor Series PPV, & 2nd in a row, & 7th Survivor Series Match, & 2nd in a row, was the 2nd year in a row that The New Day was Tag Team Champions at a Survivor Series PPV & did not defend, was Sheamus’ 6th Survivor Series PPV, but 7th match, since he competed twice in 2015, his 4th Survivor Series Match, & 2nd year in a row, was Breeze’s 2nd Survivor Series PPV in a row, but 1st Survivor Series Match, was Fandango’s 2nd Survivor Series PPV, 1st since 2014, 1st ever match on the main show, & 1st Survivor Series Match, was Gable, Jordan, Rawley, & Rhyno’s Survivor Series debut, was Ryder’s 3rd Survivor Series PPV, his 1st since 2012, his 1st ever match on the main show, & his 1st Survivor Series Match, was Slater’s 4th Survivor Series PPV, his 1st since 2014, & his 1st Survivor Series Match, was The Usos’ 4th Survivor Series PPV, & 4th in a row, their 3rd Survivor Series Match, & 2nd in a row, Jey Uso’s 3rd elimination, & everyone else’s 1st elimination in a Survivor Series Match, was the 1st time that Cesaro was a Survivor & eliminated anyone in a Survivor Series match & the 1st time that Sheamus was a Survivor in a Survivor Series Match since 2009 - Kalisto VS Brian Kendrick was the 4th Cruiserweight Championship Match at a Survivor Series PPV & 1st since 2004, Kalisto’s 2nd Survivor Series PPV in a row, & 1st singles match, Kendrick’s 2nd Survivor Series PPV, 1st since 2008, giving him 8 years between Survivor Series Matches, his 1st match on the main show, & 1st title match, the 11th Disqualification at a Survivor Series & 1st since 2014 - Chris Jericho, Kevin Owens, Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, & Braun Strowman VS Dean Ambrose, Shane McMahon, Randy Orton, AJ Styles, & Bray Wyatt was the 1st Survivor Series since 2014 to not have a WWE or World Championship Match, the 4th year in a row that the United States Championship was not defended at a Survivor Series PPV, was Jericho’s 9th Survivor Series PPV, 1st since 2009, making it 7 years between Survivor Series Matches, his 4th Survivor Series Match, 1st since 2004, was Owens’ 2nd Survivor Series PPV in a row, 1st ever Survivor Series Match, was Reigns’ 5th Survivor Series PPV, but 2nd in a row, since he competed 3 times in 2015, his 2nd Survivor Series Match & 1st since 2013, was Rollins’ 3rd Survivor Series PPV, 1st since 2014, his 3rd Survivor Series Match & 1st since 2014, was Strowman’s Survivor Series debut, was Ambrose’s 5th Match at a Survivor Series PPV, but 3rd year in a row, since he competed twice in 2015, his 2nd Survivor Series Match, 1st since 2013, was Orton’s 12th Survivor Series PPV, 1st since 2013, his 9th Survivor Series Match, 1st since 2012, was McMahon’s 3rd Survivor Series PPV, his 1st since 2003, tying him with Goldberg & Brock Lesnar, for the 3rd longest gap between Survivor Series matches, 2nd Survivor Series Match, 1st since 2001, was Styles’ Survivor Series debut, was Wyatt’s 3rd Survivor Series PPV in a row & 1st Survivor Series Match, Strowman was the 48th person to be eliminated by Count Out in a Survivor Series History, the 2nd year in a row that 2 people were counted out in the same year in Survivor Series Matches, Owens was the 31st person to be eliminated by Disqualification in a Survivor Series Match & the 1st since 2011, the 1st time since 1999 that there was both Count Out & a Disqualification in the same Elimination Match, Jericho was Orton’s 14th Elimination, keeping his record of the most eliminations in Survivor Series History, Shane McMahon was the 3rd person that was unable to continue in a Survivor Series Match & 1st since 2011, Styles was Rollins’ 3rd Elimination in Survivor Series Matches, Rollins & Reigns was Wyatt’s 1st & 2nd Elimination, & was Wyatt’s 1st time he Survived, & was Orton’s 5th time as a Survivor, giving him the record of being the Survivor the most in Survivor Series History - Goldberg VS Brock Lesnar was the 1st time that a World Title Match is not the main event of Survivor Series since 2014, was Goldberg’s 2nd Survivor Series, 1st since 2003, & 1st Main Event since 2003, was Lesnar’s 3rd Survivor Series, 1st since 2003, & 1st ever Main Event at a Survivor Series, & both men, along with Shane McMahon are tied for the 3rd longest gap between Survivor Series matches, at 13 years, after Dusty Rhodes at 16 years, & Sgt. Slaughter at 15 years
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