Tony Schiavontay
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Oct 10, 2016 23:17:49 GMT -5
For that exact reason. People want to see him do something crazy and f***ed up therefore he's a draw. Not a BIG draw but I'm sure he sells a few tickets for the smaller indy shows. Pretty much. He's due for another Gypsy Joe/Mass Transit/Vic Grimes moment any second now. It's just insane that people are willing to risk booking a match devolve into a full-blown assault (or worse) to sell a few more tickets. Says a lot about this business.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Oct 11, 2016 1:34:15 GMT -5
What I don't get is years ago. Adrian Whisper was running XICW on the MS Gulf Coast. Had a big show planned for the fairgrounds in Pascagoula. He books New Jack and tells no one. During the main event Natural Born Killas hits and New Jack comes running out with the garbage can of plunder. Some older woman that lived near the fairgrounds saw this and called the cops. "GANG MEMBERS ARE ATTACKING THE RASSLORS!" The cops show up quick and Adrian has to tell the cops that New Jack is part of the show.
Why would he book New Jack and tell no one? For what New Jack is rumored to have cost him he should have at least put on the poster "Surprise ECW superstar appearance" or something.
Now if someone can get the person who filmed that match to put the footage up on youtube.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Oct 11, 2016 5:41:12 GMT -5
I wonder how Paul Heyman feels about his wrestlers being broken down. The same as every other promoter in the history of the business, I would imagine.
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Post by DJ Maniak on Oct 11, 2016 6:02:25 GMT -5
What I don't get is years ago. Adrian Whisper was running XICW on the MS Gulf Coast. Had a big show planned for the fairgrounds in Pascagoula. He books New Jack and tells no one. During the main event Natural Born Killas hits and New Jack comes running out with the garbage can of plunder. Some older woman that lived near the fairgrounds saw this and called the cops. "GANG MEMBERS ARE ATTACKING THE RASSLORS!" The cops show up quick and Adrian has to tell the cops that New Jack is part of the show. Why would he book New Jack and tell no one? For what New Jack is rumored to have cost him he should have at least put on the poster "Surprise ECW superstar appearance" or something. Now if someone can get the person who filmed that match to put the footage up on youtube. Why am I only hearing of this just now? And I think Roadkill's done a few HOH shows for Tommy.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Oct 11, 2016 6:03:11 GMT -5
New Jack wrestled this past Saturday night. I saw him team with Eugene. For once Eugene was the smart one
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Oct 11, 2016 6:32:21 GMT -5
New Jack wrestled this past Saturday night. I saw him team with Eugene. New Jack and Eugene? That's a pairing way more random than any of the teams in the Lethal Lottery at Starrcade 1991.
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Post by Viking Hall on Oct 11, 2016 8:53:34 GMT -5
I wonder how Paul Heyman feels about his wrestlers being broken down. Paul is on top of the wrestling world with Brock as his real life client. I wonder if ever made good on his checks for the wrestlers. If I had to guess, I'd say he probably doesn't care in the least. And I'm pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that Vince covered Heyman's debts when he acquired ECW. Should he care? No one forced those wrestlers to work that style and the majority already worked that style before they were ever in ECW. Those wrestlers wouldn't be nearly as well known if it hadn't been for Heyman and you could argue that the majority of them wouldn't even be on bookers radars in 2016 let alone draws (however small) nearly 20 years past their prime.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Oct 11, 2016 16:43:53 GMT -5
What I don't get is years ago. Adrian Whisper was running XICW on the MS Gulf Coast. Had a big show planned for the fairgrounds in Pascagoula. He books New Jack and tells no one. During the main event Natural Born Killas hits and New Jack comes running out with the garbage can of plunder. Some older woman that lived near the fairgrounds saw this and called the cops. "GANG MEMBERS ARE ATTACKING THE RASSLORS!" The cops show up quick and Adrian has to tell the cops that New Jack is part of the show. Why would he book New Jack and tell no one? For what New Jack is rumored to have cost him he should have at least put on the poster "Surprise ECW superstar appearance" or something. Now if someone can get the person who filmed that match to put the footage up on youtube. Why am I only hearing of this just now? And I think Roadkill's done a few HOH shows for Tommy. I just found out about it in 2012. Which was at least 3 years after it happened.
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Post by Manute Bol on Oct 16, 2016 17:00:12 GMT -5
To be fair, how many WWE/WCW guys from the same time period are still wrestling? The answer to your question has less to do with "the ECW hardcore style" and more to do with the fact that it's 2016 and this was almost 20 years ago.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Oct 16, 2016 20:18:42 GMT -5
A month or two ago, I saw where New Jack shared a Facebook post about a card in East Tennessee for a group called 10 Dollar Wrestling. It was apparently all hardcore and death matches. Jack was scheduled to face Tracey Smothers.
What amused me was that tickets were $15, and when someone asked, "How can $10 Wrestling cost more than $10?," Jack replied, "Quit being so f***ing cheap."
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Post by Ted Sheckler on Oct 18, 2016 9:51:45 GMT -5
To be fair, how many WWE/WCW guys from the same time period are still wrestling? The answer to your question has less to do with "the ECW hardcore style" and more to do with the fact that it's 2016 and this was almost 20 years ago. Quite a lot actually. I've seen some indies recently upload videos featuring the likes of Brian Christopher, Buff Bagwell, Gangrel, Scott Steiner, Scotty 2 Hotty and a few others. You can even find some dudes from the 70 and 80's who are still working. Brutus Beefcake, Bushwhacker Luke, Greg Valentine, Honky Tonk Man, Jim Duggan and Tony Atlas all still wrestle pretty regularly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 10:43:03 GMT -5
Yeah, guys still wrestle from different periods. This post was not only limited to guys who worked 20 years ago, but also guys who did a particular style on shows 20 years ago, for one specific promotion. It was going to be a short list any way you look at it.
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Post by Sparvid on Oct 18, 2016 22:24:58 GMT -5
Is Sandman considered more "semi-active" than Raven on the indies? I would've thought that both them were in the "Sure, I'll show up and do my gimmick if the pay is good, but I won't do a full match / anything more than a minor part in a tag match" part of their careers.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Oct 18, 2016 22:35:54 GMT -5
Well Jack is a special attraction, he knows his role, match pretty much ends when Natural Born Killers end. It's just a lighter schedule where his opponents do more of the selling. He's also working safer, ever since the balls mahoney gigging himself with that woman in the hotel room and balls allegedly injecting other people's blood on himself, New Jack decided to stop bleeding forever.
I think that except RVD, all the ECW guys have been stinking up the joint. They should all just retire.
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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Oct 19, 2016 2:51:52 GMT -5
Well Jack is a special attraction, he knows his role, match pretty much ends when Natural Born Killers end. It's just a lighter schedule where his opponents do more of the selling. He's also working safer, ever since the balls mahoney gigging himself with that woman in the hotel room and balls allegedly injecting other people's blood on himself, New Jack decided to stop bleeding forever. I think that except RVD, all the ECW guys have been stinking up the joint. They should all just retire. Well he must have changed his mind then, because his 2016 comeback match earlier this year against Masada was a deathmatch, plus he's booked for an upcoming deathmatch tournament.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Oct 19, 2016 7:00:23 GMT -5
Well Jack is a special attraction, he knows his role, match pretty much ends when Natural Born Killers end. It's just a lighter schedule where his opponents do more of the selling. He's also working safer, ever since the balls mahoney gigging himself with that woman in the hotel room and balls allegedly injecting other people's blood on himself, New Jack decided to stop bleeding forever. I think that except RVD, all the ECW guys have been stinking up the joint. They should all just retire. Well he must have changed his mind then, because his 2016 comeback match earlier this year against Masada was a deathmatch, plus he's booked for an upcoming deathmatch tournament. Did he bled?
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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Oct 19, 2016 10:40:53 GMT -5
Well he must have changed his mind then, because his 2016 comeback match earlier this year against Masada was a deathmatch, plus he's booked for an upcoming deathmatch tournament. Did he bled? Yes. Here are some pictures from the match from New Jack's twitter account. (spoilered for size and blood)
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Oct 19, 2016 15:06:51 GMT -5
Yes. Here are some pictures from the match from New Jack's twitter account. (spoilered for size and blood) I don't get Jack, Masada is one of my favorite Indy guys but I wouldn't trust him to bleed on top of me. It's not worth it.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Oct 19, 2016 19:00:19 GMT -5
For that exact reason. People want to see him do something crazy and f***ed up therefore he's a draw. Not a BIG draw but I'm sure he sells a few tickets for the smaller indy shows. Pretty much. He's due for another Gypsy Joe/Mass Transit/Vic Grimes moment any second now. And don't you DARE give him 7Up instead of a Sprite! Or is that the other way around. f***, now I hope I'm never in that situation.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Oct 21, 2016 10:44:35 GMT -5
What I don't get is years ago. Adrian Whisper was running XICW on the MS Gulf Coast. Had a big show planned for the fairgrounds in Pascagoula. He books New Jack and tells no one. During the main event Natural Born Killas hits and New Jack comes running out with the garbage can of plunder. Some older woman that lived near the fairgrounds saw this and called the cops. "GANG MEMBERS ARE ATTACKING THE RASSLORS!" The cops show up quick and Adrian has to tell the cops that New Jack is part of the show. Not only were these "Gang Members" attacking, they somehow also had theme music and forced it to be played over the area speakers while committing their crimes
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