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Post by sfvega on Feb 26, 2017 8:06:46 GMT -5
Also it's officially confirmed there was suppose to be a trade of Hall for Shattenkirk last offseason on the condition that Shattenkirk signed a extension in which he vetoed. I'm so glad it didn't happen since Klefblom is starting to evolve into a offensive defensemen dynamo and Larsson is a very good shutdown guy. He's the kind of guy whose presence was really missed in a game like this. Shattenkirk turned down two deals like this. People give the Blues so much crap the last 24 hours for signing Burgland for 5 years but not Shattenkirk. People forget that in the Blues System they have more deph in Defensive men then anywhere else. The thing people don't see is they are not paying him much more then we already have. We know what he can do and with Stasny is coming up after next season, so Blues needs Centers and they can use him as such. For 3 million a year isn't that bad for him. Shattenkirk is going to be a 7 million a year player as the numbers are coming out for. Big difference and answer this As a fan or in the GM shoes, Do you think Shattenkirk is worth paying the same as Tarasenko per year? The Blues are going to push Parayko into that role for less money. Paryko was under a million this season. They could likely get him to sign a 2 to 2.5 million a year contract at this point. You're right, except Parayko's agent would be high if he accepted any offer under 3.5 AAV on his bridge deal, maybe even 4. Parayko is the real deal, and it's not so much a secret anymore. I hope he takes a more reasonable deal, but the more he plays, the less likely that is.
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Post by BRV on Feb 26, 2017 12:08:01 GMT -5
Just in case you missed it, and it's very likely that you did, the Flyers and Penguins met last night in the 2017 "Stadium Series" game at Heinz Field.
Yes, this post is basically a continuation of my annual rant about how the Stadium Series is ruining the Winter Classic, but it's absolutely true. Since the Stadium Series started in 2014, ratings for the Winter Classic - annually the NHL's biggest televised draw outside of the Stanley Cup Finals - have plummeted. The game would routinely attract between 3.75 and 4.5 million viewers but since the Stadium Series began in January 2014, the 2015 through 2017 Winter Classics have seen viewership dwindle to 3.4, 2.7, and 2.5 million.
This is no coincidence. The cache and allure of outdoor hockey has been tainted by these meaningless encounters with zero hype or advertisement thrust in the middle of the regular season. Hell, the third-ever Stadium Series game, between the Islanders and Rangers at Yankee Stadium, was played on a WEDNESDAY. As was the March 1, 2014 game between the Penguins and Blackhawks at Soldier Field. I had no idea that there was an outdoor hockey game being played last night until about 7:45 when I was at a bar and the television switched over to the pre-game show on the NHL Network.
To salvage the Winter Classic, the NHL needs to shutter the Stadium Series altogether. Imagine how much cooler and more significant those games at Dodger Stadium, Yankee Stadium, or Soldier Field would be if they were truly a once-a-year affair versus whenever the NHL decided to plop them onto the schedule. Once again, this is just the NHL taking a cool idea and a good thing that drew ratings and running it square into the ground by oversaturating the market.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 12:29:00 GMT -5
I really don't mind the multiple outdoor games. But I wish they stop giving all the undivided attention to the same 7 Bettman/NBC Teams like if they are the only games that matter. Like yeah you put a Stadium Game in other markets in Canada/Colorado/LA/etc and it'll sell out and the gate will be high but the ratings are low because you don't promote the game and the ones that are heavily promoted or repeats. Like I swear we have seen a Philly vs. Pittsburgh stadium game in Heinz Field before. Like bringing in a outdoor game to nontraditional sunbelt markets is a good way to promote the game and especially if you somehow create some synthetic winter festivities for the locals. Like bring in that synthetic ice if you don't want the cost of bringing in real ice and promote skating or snowball fights with synthetic snow or something. It'll be a huge hit for locals who have never seen snow before. Plus it makes those markets feel special that the NHL took it's time to promote and market the city. The NBA All Star Game was huge for Toronto because it made the locals feel like they are finally a legitimate NBA City. Do the same thing for Nashville.
Seriously it's mind boggling in how bad the NHL and Hockey media is at marketing. You look at how the Canadian Media tries to force a McDavid vs. Eichel rivalry or Laine vs. Matthews rivalry when they should be actually trying to manufacture a Eichel vs. Matthews rivalry. Two youthful rebuilding teams with tons of offensive fire power that play in the same division and are only a a 2 hour drive from each other headlined by the two most touted American Born players since Mike Modano and Patrick Kane and feature a Nylander brother that was drafted #8 overall. Like Jesus how hard is that?
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Feb 26, 2017 15:43:05 GMT -5
Shattenkirk turned down two deals like this. People give the Blues so much crap the last 24 hours for signing Burgland for 5 years but not Shattenkirk. People forget that in the Blues System they have more deph in Defensive men then anywhere else. The thing people don't see is they are not paying him much more then we already have. We know what he can do and with Stasny is coming up after next season, so Blues needs Centers and they can use him as such. For 3 million a year isn't that bad for him. Shattenkirk is going to be a 7 million a year player as the numbers are coming out for. Big difference and answer this As a fan or in the GM shoes, Do you think Shattenkirk is worth paying the same as Tarasenko per year? The Blues are going to push Parayko into that role for less money. Paryko was under a million this season. They could likely get him to sign a 2 to 2.5 million a year contract at this point. You're right, except Parayko's agent would be high if he accepted any offer under 3.5 AAV on his bridge deal, maybe even 4. Parayko is the real deal, and it's not so much a secret anymore. I hope he takes a more reasonable deal, but the more he plays, the less likely that is. I just put out a number based on what he makes now and figured a couple million in a rise so to speak. At the end he still be less then what is going to cost to sign Shattenkirk per year which the Blues can't do for cap space and not sure if he a 7 million player, as much as I do like him and I agree that he is the real deal in regards of Prayko. I feel like maybe we can sign him long term now because while cap space is an issue. After 2017 there is a big drop. Currently there is 18 players signed for next year with 64.3 Million overall payroll and 2018 has 10 after that at 47.4 Million. If case anybody interested, there is where I'm getting the numbers from. www.spotrac.com/nhl/st-louis-blues/
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 16:32:31 GMT -5
Apparently a lot of teams have been calling the Rangers to get them to trade away JT Miller. Given the season hes been having, I doubt he'd get traded unless the Rangers get something big in return.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 16:41:32 GMT -5
Apparently a lot of teams have been calling the Rangers to get them to trade away JT Miller. Given the season hes been having, I doubt he'd get traded unless the Rangers get something big in return. Only thing I got is Rangers need cap space to extend Zibanejad and planning to sign Shattenkirk this offseason? But yeah you usually get way more value in a trade during the offseason or NHL Entry Level draft day. Vegas is really screwing up everybody's off season strategy with the Expansion Draft and the salary cap staying the same next year.
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Post by sfvega on Feb 26, 2017 18:23:41 GMT -5
You're right, except Parayko's agent would be high if he accepted any offer under 3.5 AAV on his bridge deal, maybe even 4. Parayko is the real deal, and it's not so much a secret anymore. I hope he takes a more reasonable deal, but the more he plays, the less likely that is. I just put out a number based on what he makes now and figured a couple million in a rise so to speak. At the end he still be less then what is going to cost to sign Shattenkirk per year which the Blues can't do for cap space and not sure if he a 7 million player, as much as I do like him and I agree that he is the real deal in regards of Prayko. I feel like maybe we can sign him long term now because while cap space is an issue. After 2017 there is a big drop. Currently there is 18 players signed for next year with 64.3 Million overall payroll and 2018 has 10 after that at 47.4 Million. If case anybody interested, there is where I'm getting the numbers from. www.spotrac.com/nhl/st-louis-blues/This would be a perfect time to trade Shatty and fire Armstrong. We have Stastny coming off the books next year, and Lehtera and Bouwmeester the year after that. We could completely revamp the team, but Armstrong's moves outside of Perron (who really just seemed to want to come back) don't inspire much confidence.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 18:30:12 GMT -5
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Post by sfvega on Feb 26, 2017 18:37:25 GMT -5
Of all the places to trade him, they pick one that's completely under the radar dangerous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 19:10:16 GMT -5
I'm really confused by this trade and was this really the best offer Tampa could do?
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Feb 26, 2017 22:35:35 GMT -5
And Bishop was helping the Ning turn their season around, they still had a shot at the playoffs. And Budaj(probably spelled that wrong, don't care even if he is Ex Avs) has been great for LA all things considered.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Feb 26, 2017 22:37:21 GMT -5
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Feb 26, 2017 22:43:28 GMT -5
I'm really confused by this trade and was this really the best offer Tampa could do? Maybe they now flip him or Quick for a scoring forward?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 22:53:47 GMT -5
I'm really confused by this trade and was this really the best offer Tampa could do? Maybe they now flip him or Quick for a scoring forward? Actually the trade makes sense. LA has 3 back to back game left this season, 4 games against Calgary there biggest competitors in the standings, Budaj's play has been going down, and LA's goal scoring is because of the Quick injury. Because they play a lot more aggressive forechecking game when Quick is in net. Also Bishop is a UFA at the end of the season. I'm just confused on what Tampa is getting. A good prospect, a 7th round pick, and Budaj. Like that's not bad especially if they can extend Budaj and make him Tampa's backup next season or a 1B goalie if Vasilevskiy has a disappointing season or gets hurt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 22:55:12 GMT -5
And that's a high price for a 30 year old defensive checking 40 point forward rental. I wonder what the f*** Duchene or Landeskog is worth on the market. 20 1st overall picks?
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Feb 26, 2017 22:59:11 GMT -5
And that's a high price for a 30 year old defensive checking 40 point forward rental. I wonder what the f*** Duchene or Landeskog is worth on the market. 20 1st overall picks? Rumors are no one is even close to offering Sakic what he wants and he refuses to budge. So they may stick around until the off season.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 23:03:36 GMT -5
And that's a high price for a 30 year old defensive checking 40 point forward rental. I wonder what the f*** Duchene or Landeskog is worth on the market. 20 1st overall picks? Rumors are no one is even close to offering Sakic what he wants and he refuses to budge. So they may stick around until the off season. Honestly the best possible return and what Colorado desperately needs is trade for a defenseman like what Columbus did with Ryan Johansen and Edmonton did with Taylor Hall.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Feb 26, 2017 23:08:25 GMT -5
Rumors are no one is even close to offering Sakic what he wants and he refuses to budge. So they may stick around until the off season. Honestly the best possible return and what Colorado desperately needs is trade for a defenseman like what Columbus did with Ryan Johansen and Edmonton did with Taylor Hall. Yeah, though if their drafting and development of Dmen doesn't get better there is barely any point.
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Post by sfvega on Feb 27, 2017 4:19:35 GMT -5
Maybe they now flip him or Quick for a scoring forward? Actually the trade makes sense. LA has 3 back to back game left this season, 4 games against Calgary there biggest competitors in the standings, Budaj's play has been going down, and LA's goal scoring is because of the Quick injury. Because they play a lot more aggressive forechecking game when Quick is in net. Also Bishop is a UFA at the end of the season. I'm just confused on what Tampa is getting. A good prospect, a 7th round pick, and Budaj. Like that's not bad especially if they can extend Budaj and make him Tampa's backup next season or a 1B goalie if Vasilevskiy has a disappointing season or gets hurt. The thing is that nobody really has room for Bishop's salary without giving some back, and Tampa would only want expiring contracts to re-sign their Palat, Kucherov, etc. And the other teams who could afford it like NJ or Arizona don't really have a need for a great goalie with an expiring contract. Bishop is wildly more tradeable on paper or last off-season. Tampa tried to see if they'd contend this year, and it killed their return. That's the game you play, and Doug Armstrong is also currently losing this game.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Feb 27, 2017 16:08:23 GMT -5
Leafs acquire Brian Boyle from the Bolts for Byron Froese and a conditional pick.
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