the2ndevil
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Post by the2ndevil on Nov 19, 2016 23:57:01 GMT -5
I maintain the Shatter Machine might be the best-looking finisher in pro wrestling. Except when Jeri-KO butcher it.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Nov 20, 2016 0:22:52 GMT -5
I maintain the Shatter Machine might be the best-looking finisher in pro wrestling. Except when Jeri-KO butcher it. Jeri-KO's isn't a Shatter Machine though. It's a KO pop-up (aka from the Pop-Up Powerbomb) into a Codebreaker. Not The Revival's flapjack/Codebreaker combo. Similar concept =/= same move
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the2ndevil
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Post by the2ndevil on Nov 20, 2016 0:31:47 GMT -5
Except when Jeri-KO butcher it. Jeri-KO's isn't a Shatter Machine though. It's a KO pop-up (aka from the Pop-Up Powerbomb) into a Codebreaker. Not The Revival's flapjack/Codebreaker combo. Similar concept =/= same move Whatever Jeri-KO's is, they've never managed one that hasn't looked like complete garbage, and really need to stop it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 20, 2016 0:41:10 GMT -5
I honestly think this may have been the best match Tye Dillinger has ever had. At least the greatest I've seen him have. Really think he needed the win more. The crowds love him wherever they go. I just don't understand why they don't pull the trigger on him. Roode win puts him in the title picture or so we assume so he needed the win. This is Tye first big exposure so the fans I can see him getting a few wins and feuds under his belt and he probably get a TV title match whenever Roode becomes champion. In the meantime he can feud with Aries when his eye heals or take on EY and his crew.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 20, 2016 0:44:36 GMT -5
Jeri-KO's isn't a Shatter Machine though. It's a KO pop-up (aka from the Pop-Up Powerbomb) into a Codebreaker. Not The Revival's flapjack/Codebreaker combo. Similar concept =/= same move Whatever Jeri-KO's is, they've never managed one that hasn't looked like complete garbage, and really need to stop it. I'm getting the sense they are trying to do it differently to differentiate the Pop Up Codebreaker from the Shatter Machine, but the problem is that the Shatter Machine is the only way that move is ever going to look both good and safe.
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Nov 20, 2016 0:51:58 GMT -5
So happy to have been there live tonight, every match was fun and the crowd was great.
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Bub (BLM)
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 20, 2016 2:14:11 GMT -5
I honestly think this may have been the best match Tye Dillinger has ever had. At least the greatest I've seen him have. Really think he needed the win more. The crowds love him wherever they go. I just don't understand why they don't pull the trigger on him. It's the Dolph Ziggler effect, honestly. He makes his opponents look great and never loses any overness when he jobs, so they keep using him as a JTTS.
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Post by Bear Skin Rug on Nov 20, 2016 2:45:11 GMT -5
This reminded me of most main roster PPVs: lots of good matches, but no reasons to watch the TV show and keep up with any feuds. The stakes are feeling lower and lower with each Takeover.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Nov 20, 2016 5:26:42 GMT -5
Dear Tye,
Please get a new jacket.
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Post by berlynwright on Nov 20, 2016 5:44:49 GMT -5
Nakamura/Joe was OK, but disappointing just as their previous match. Both guys haven't clicked for some reasons and same goes for Joe/Balor, Joe/Owens, Nakamura/Aries
Just hope for Almas to move up for a feud with Nakamura (they have had great matches before) and Itami to be the one to take out Joe.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 20, 2016 5:54:09 GMT -5
I honestly think this may have been the best match Tye Dillinger has ever had. At least the greatest I've seen him have. Really think he needed the win more. The crowds love him wherever they go. I just don't understand why they don't pull the trigger on him. Roode win puts him in the title picture or so we assume so he needed the win. This is Tye first big exposure so the fans I can see him getting a few wins and feuds under his belt and he probably get a TV title match whenever Roode becomes champion. In the meantime he can feud with Aries when his eye heals or take on EY and his crew. I agree. Roode is getting the rocketship treatment, and Dillinger is trending way up in NXT. He'll get a Takeover win eventually, it just wasn't gonna be last night. NXT lets things progress naturally. Dillinger will get there.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 20, 2016 5:58:09 GMT -5
Nakamura/Joe was OK, but disappointing just as their previous match. Both guys haven't clicked for some reasons and same goes for Joe/Balor, Joe/Owens, Nakamura/Aries Just hope for Almas to move up for a feud with Nakamura (they have had great matches before) and Itami to be the one to take out Joe. I agree. I was really looking forward to that match, but they just didn't kill it for whatever reason. Good build, great crowd, great entrance hype, and the match just....fell flat.
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Post by Topher is Human on Nov 20, 2016 6:48:35 GMT -5
Even though he lost, this was definitely Tye's coming out party.
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 20, 2016 7:33:52 GMT -5
I wasn't there, just reading the reports. I'll admit, Joe winning the title back comes as a surprise-I had figured that him dropping the belt to Nakamura meant he was on his way up to the main roster some time soon But I suppose they didn't want to make it that utterly predictable. Plus the main roster is fairly stacked ATM, so Joe might not fit in for a bit.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 20, 2016 8:59:52 GMT -5
Plus the main roster is fairly stacked ATM, so Joe might not fit in for a bit. Would agree with that a lot. Actually would favour an informal moratorium on main roster debuts for, at least, 4 months. The number of main roster debuts this year might be a record (or, at least, 2nd only to the WCW purchase): Enzo and Cass, Balor, American Alpha, Bayley, Bliss, Carmella, Corbin, Zayn (a semi-redebut, granted), Vaudevillains, Nia Jax, Dana Brooke and Apollo Crews Hell, that's even discounting returning main roster acts, the cruiserweights and The Club guys that bypassed NXT. It's long since passed the point of introducing too much that they're doing a disservice to both talent and the crowds. I understand the split necessitated it somewhat, but there's only so much one can expect for crowds to process and it's already too much. Anyways, Takeover was marvelous. Had a ningling feeling in Brooklyn that the lackadaisical pace of Naka/Joe was either because a: they'd no chemistry or b: they're holding back for the future. After last night, now leaning toward the latter as it was a much improved bout in Toronto and look forward to capping off the trilogy. Enjoyed James looking competitive and it was a great ending with Asuka simply catching James rather than dominating. The Tag Title gig just walked away with the show and, for my (admittedly limited) money, established The Revival as straight-up MVPs of tag team wrestling.
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 20, 2016 10:02:01 GMT -5
Plus the main roster is fairly stacked ATM, so Joe might not fit in for a bit. Would agree with that a lot. Actually would favour an informal moratorium on main roster debuts for, at least, 4 months. The number of main roster debuts this year might be a record (or, at least, 2nd only to the WCW purchase): Enzo and Cass, Balor, American Alpha, Bayley, Bliss, Carmella, Corbin, Zayn (a semi-redebut, granted), Vaudevillains, Nia Jax, Dana Brooke and Apollo Crews Hell, that's even discounting returning main roster acts, the cruiserweights and The Club guys that bypassed NXT. It's long since passed the point of introducing too much that they're doing a disservice to both talent and the crowds. I understand the split necessitated it somewhat, but there's only so much one can expect for crowds to process and it's already too much. Anyways, Takeover was marvelous. Had a ningling feeling in Brooklyn that the lackadaisical pace of Naka/Joe was either because a: they'd no chemistry or b: they're holding back for the future. After last night, now leaning toward the latter as it was a much improved bout in Toronto and look forward to capping off the trilogy. Enjoyed James looking competitive and it was a great ending with Asuka simply catching James rather than dominating. The Tag Title gig just walked away with the show and, for my (admittedly limited) money, established The Revival as straight-up MVPs of tag team wrestling. Some part of me had dreamed of seeing Joe vs Brock at this year's WM. And I still want to see the match, but maybe it would be best for that to wait for Summerslam. I also suspect the injured status of Hideo Itami might be part of it as well; move Joe up now and who gets primed to take the belt off Nakamura later on?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 20, 2016 10:42:47 GMT -5
Yeah Joe Vs Nakamura was ok. I hope that it's just a matter of the dudes not clicking.
Joe's character has been on point but I've only really enjoyed his match with Corbin from Brooklyn Takeover 1. Every other match has been kinda disappointing or forgettable.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 20, 2016 10:54:13 GMT -5
Would agree with that a lot. Actually would favour an informal moratorium on main roster debuts for, at least, 4 months. The number of main roster debuts this year might be a record (or, at least, 2nd only to the WCW purchase): Enzo and Cass, Balor, American Alpha, Bayley, Bliss, Carmella, Corbin, Zayn (a semi-redebut, granted), Vaudevillains, Nia Jax, Dana Brooke and Apollo Crews Hell, that's even discounting returning main roster acts, the cruiserweights and The Club guys that bypassed NXT. It's long since passed the point of introducing too much that they're doing a disservice to both talent and the crowds. I understand the split necessitated it somewhat, but there's only so much one can expect for crowds to process and it's already too much. Anyways, Takeover was marvelous. Had a ningling feeling in Brooklyn that the lackadaisical pace of Naka/Joe was either because a: they'd no chemistry or b: they're holding back for the future. After last night, now leaning toward the latter as it was a much improved bout in Toronto and look forward to capping off the trilogy. Enjoyed James looking competitive and it was a great ending with Asuka simply catching James rather than dominating. The Tag Title gig just walked away with the show and, for my (admittedly limited) money, established The Revival as straight-up MVPs of tag team wrestling. Some part of me had dreamed of seeing Joe vs Brock at this year's WM. And I still want to see the match, but maybe it would be best for that to wait for Summerslam. I also suspect the injured status of Hideo Itami might be part of it as well; move Joe up now and who gets primed to take the belt off Nakamura later on? Good point. NXT's been purged over the last year and it's mirroring the main roster, where there's just so much building up going on concurrently that it feels locked into a holding pattern until it's got a few bodies breaking out again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 11:54:40 GMT -5
The tag title match was beautiful.My only problem is they need to be using the new young talent on these takeover specials because they need experience and are never gonna get over a stars if their not on these shows.A lot of people don't watch the weekly nxt show and only watch the takeovers.A big problem is that they were used as tv jobbers for the the Nxt stars that got called up and now that those stars are gone they still can't make the specials.Nxt's main goal is to create the stars of the future it is still developmental but they seem too focused on being a cool workrate Indy with a wwe budget.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 20, 2016 12:22:52 GMT -5
I honestly think this may have been the best match Tye Dillinger has ever had. At least the greatest I've seen him have. Really think he needed the win more. The crowds love him wherever they go. I just don't understand why they don't pull the trigger on him. It's the Dolph Ziggler effect, honestly. He makes his opponents look great and never loses any overness when he jobs, so they keep using him as a JTTS. I think that Cedric Alexander is also starting to suffer from this.
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