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Post by Glitch on Oct 30, 2016 6:40:08 GMT -5
This topic is really stressing everybody out. Let's all forgot about this silly thing and watch Roshomon.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 30, 2016 7:33:56 GMT -5
The Volkswagen logo. I'd have swore I remember the V and W overlapped.
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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Oct 30, 2016 7:49:04 GMT -5
it's called MIS-REMEMBERINGand it's perfectly natural everyone does it even me AND THAT'S IT  I'm sorry, but I can't accept this...I've had a couple of Mandela Effects happen to me personally, and because I don't want to get too personal I won't post them here, but it goes far beyond 'misremembering'. Besides that, if you look online at Mandela Effects, the ones that actually are people misremembering stuff are debunked and not considered Mandela Effects. No one needs this kind of negativity. In fact I think this post may have originally said something else Lol. All joking aside I find the mandela effect pretty fascinating. I don't know if there is any thing to it. However I in my brain there is and I choose to think about the things and read about things that might be changed by it. well i don't get it, just think it's another piece of trivial tomfoolery, that i've read enough about on the dumb end of the internet  and i've been on the dumb end ..... don't let the bugs shove out of your ear 40% of your brain  How is it the 'dumb end' of the internet to believe that the Mandela Effect may exist? I said this in the AVGN Berenstein thread, but there are scientists that believe that reality is a computer simulation. Now if that's true, and the simulation suffers a glitch* which causes slight changes in reality due to corrupted data in the simulation, then the Mandela Effect happens. Hence reality 'shifts', and the changed version of reality becomes the one that has 'always existed', even though some people retain memories of the previous version of reality before it changed. At least that's my interpretation of it. Now of course all of this is speculation, and as I said in the AVGN thread there are plenty of Mandela Effects which I personally don't believe, but I don't see why being open-minded enough to think that it possibly may exist makes me 'dumb'. *this can also lead to the other effect known as a 'Glitch in the Matrix' which is similar but not the same. |
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Oct 30, 2016 10:29:40 GMT -5
This is based on people thinking Nelson Mandela died in prison in the 80's. I could absolutely see someone talking about Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 80's, getting called out on their stupidity and then trying to bullshit out of it with tales of alternate realities influencing their memories. I would never think anyone would believe them and it would become a thing people talk about for a little while. I don't get how anyone can make that mistake to begin with. Isn't Nelson Mandela's biggest claim to fame the fact that he was the first democratically elected president of South Africa? It's like saying "I could've sworn that Neil Armstrong died in a flight training accident in 1967". Why would you even think that?! Haha, same here. How do you just miss out the most famous part of the story? He got out of prison, became President of South Africa, and ended apartheid. I don't think we'd be talking about him much in 2016 if he'd just died in prison 30 years ago, with respect to him. |
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Oct 30, 2016 10:56:34 GMT -5
well i don't get it, just think it's another piece of trivial tomfoolery, that i've read enough about on the dumb end of the internet and i've been on the dumb end ..... don't let the bugs shove out of your ear 40% of your brain How is it the 'dumb end' of the internet to believe that the Mandela Effect may exist? I said this in the AVGN Berenstein thread, but there are scientists that believe that reality is a computer simulation. Now if that's true, and the simulation suffers a glitch* which causes slight changes in reality due to corrupted data in the simulation, then the Mandela Effect happens. Hence reality 'shifts', and the changed version of reality becomes the one that has 'always existed', even though some people retain memories of the previous version of reality before it changed. At least that's my interpretation of it. Now of course all of this is speculation, and as I said in the AVGN thread there are plenty of Mandela Effects which I personally don't believe, but I don't see why being open-minded enough to think that it possibly may exist makes me 'dumb'. *this can also lead to the other effect known as a 'Glitch in the Matrix' which is similar but not the same.I don't think you are dumb for believing it's a possibility, but it would help your case if A) it wasn't called "the Mandela effect" when Mandela dying in the 80s is just poor memory, plain and simple. And B) if all the most famous examples/claims weren't really easy to either debunk or explain simply. Now I can't say for certain that life isn't a computer simulation with glitches and corrupted data, but I know that's much much much less likely than people just making mistakes or misremembering. Occam's razor. The most simple explanation is probably the correct one. |
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Post by Bobeddy on Oct 30, 2016 11:30:47 GMT -5
More often that not, these 'misremembering' things are a result of a misquote or some misinformation that just happens to spread and is so innocuous that until you directly check the thing you don't notice.
Are 'Luke, I'm your father's and 'Play it again, Sam' a case of mass misremembering, or just simplification of quotes that are popular because the actual quotes require a return dialogue to make sense?
Chances are each 'Mandela Effect' has a source of an individual person or article or parody that just happened to gain traction. The very fact it's called the 'Mandela Effect' shows how flawed the concept is. Until I heard about this idea like two weeks ago I'd literally never met or heard about anyone who thought Mandela died in the 80's or 90's. To the point, I wouldn't be surprised if this idea was some sort of meta-joke of trying to make people misremember that people misremembered Mandela died!
Though, on a related note, I will say people's willingness to accept information as fact unchecked is a little frightening. Given all the clickbait, misquotes and just wrong information presented as truth that's spread easily and quickly online today (with comments on it adding validity to its claims), I think there'll be a lot of 'Mandela Effect's reported in about 10/15 years.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 30, 2016 11:39:35 GMT -5
The 'computer simulation' thing is pretty clearly a thought experiment. It's really not meant to be taken literally, it's an exercise in probability.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 30, 2016 12:00:04 GMT -5
I don't get that one, there was a damn Morgan Freeman and Matt Damon film about him that took place in 1995
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Post by ERON on Oct 30, 2016 13:08:02 GMT -5
I thought the "Nelson Mandala died in prison" thing was in reference to people back then who were surprised when Mandala was first released from prison because they had heard he died, not people now who think he died back in the '80s and are unaware that he later ended apartheid and became president.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Oct 30, 2016 16:15:04 GMT -5
Seriously haunted by a vision in my head of Sir Anthony saying "Hello Clarice"...that never happened To be fair, he does say "Hello Clarice" in Hannibal. He never says it in Silence of the Lambs though. |
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Post by Larryhausen on Oct 30, 2016 16:34:51 GMT -5
I'd be much more behind this idea if it was called The Vigoda Effect.
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Post by chazraps on Oct 30, 2016 19:17:07 GMT -5
it's called MIS-REMEMBERINGand it's perfectly natural everyone does it even me AND THAT'S IT I'm sorry, but I can't accept this...I've had a couple of Mandela Effects happen to me personally, and because I don't want to get too personal I won't post them here, but it goes far beyond 'misremembering'. Besides that, if you look online at Mandela Effects, the ones that actually are people misremembering stuff are debunked and not considered Mandela Effects. well i don't get it, just think it's another piece of trivial tomfoolery, that i've read enough about on the dumb end of the internet and i've been on the dumb end ..... don't let the bugs shove out of your ear 40% of your brain How is it the 'dumb end' of the internet to believe that the Mandela Effect may exist? I said this in the AVGN Berenstein thread, but there are scientists that believe that reality is a computer simulation. Now if that's true, and the simulation suffers a glitch* which causes slight changes in reality due to corrupted data in the simulation, then the Mandela Effect happens. Hence reality 'shifts', and the changed version of reality becomes the one that has 'always existed', even though some people retain memories of the previous version of reality before it changed. At least that's my interpretation of it. Now of course all of this is speculation, and as I said in the AVGN thread there are plenty of Mandela Effects which I personally don't believe, but I don't see why being open-minded enough to think that it possibly may exist makes me 'dumb'. *this can also lead to the other effect known as a 'Glitch in the Matrix' which is similar but not the same.How qualified are these scientists? |
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Post by DSR on Oct 30, 2016 20:10:28 GMT -5
Seriously haunted by a vision in my head of Sir Anthony saying "Hello Clarice"...that never happened To be fair, he does say "Hello Clarice" in Hannibal. He never says it in Silence of the Lambs though. Also Jim Carrey says it when he does a Lecter impression in "The Cable Guy." |
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Oct 30, 2016 20:29:02 GMT -5
Seriously haunted by a vision in my head of Sir Anthony saying "Hello Clarice"...that never happened To be fair, he does say "Hello Clarice" in Hannibal. He never says it in Silence of the Lambs though. I want to say there was a parody of the scene in "The Critic" where he said it. I think a lot of these come from parodies in cartoons. "Play it again Sam" I think was in a Looney Tunes episode. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 30, 2016 21:00:54 GMT -5
Seriously haunted by a vision in my head of Sir Anthony saying "Hello Clarice"...that never happened That's because it's been parodied and referenced so many times... and I guess Hello is less restricting than Good Evening. |
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Post by BRV on Oct 30, 2016 21:04:14 GMT -5
The most famous one is surely "Mirror, mirror on the wall" from Snow White. This being in spite of the film's dialogue being "Magic mirror on the wall". "Luke, I am your father." Darth Vader NEVER says those words. He says, "No...I am your father," after Luke says Obi-Wan told him Darth Vader killed his father. But if you ask just about 90 percent of the population for the most famous line from the "Star Wars" saga, they'll likely say, in a deep voice, "LUUUUKE, I AM YOUR FAAAAATHER." It's got nothing to do with alternate realities or parallel universes and has everything to do with Chris Farley. In "Tommy Boy", David Spade's character walks in on Farley's character mouthing words into a fan, and he says, "LUUUUKE, LUUUUKE, I AAAAM YOOOOUUUR FAAAAATHER." And for whatever reason, that line has stuck in our minds more than the actual words spoken by James Earl Jones, to the point that we believe Darth Vader actually says, "Luke, I am your father." |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 30, 2016 21:12:41 GMT -5
The most famous one is surely "Mirror, mirror on the wall" from Snow White. This being in spite of the film's dialogue being "Magic mirror on the wall". "Luke, I am your father." Darth Vader NEVER says those words. He says, "No...I am your father," after Luke says Obi-Wan told him Darth Vader killed his father. But if you ask just about 90 percent of the population for the most famous line from the "Star Wars" saga, they'll likely say, in a deep voice, "LUUUUKE, I AM YOUR FAAAAATHER." It's got nothing to do with alternate realities or parallel universes and has everything to do with Chris Farley. In "Tommy Boy", David Spade's character walks in on Farley's character mouthing words into a fan, and he says, "LUUUUKE, LUUUUKE, I AAAAM YOOOOUUUR FAAAAATHER." And for whatever reason, that line has stuck in our minds more than the actual words spoken by James Earl Jones, to the point that we believe Darth Vader actually says, "Luke, I am your father." Has nothing to do with Chris Farley, the Luke I am your father misquote has been parodied hundred of times before that. It's that just going "No, I am your father" doesn't really give the context of the reference (or is as easy to work into a conversation) as well as saying LUKE does. |
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Post by WWEedy on Oct 30, 2016 21:16:32 GMT -5
The most famous one is surely "Mirror, mirror on the wall" from Snow White. This being in spite of the film's dialogue being "Magic mirror on the wall". "Luke, I am your father." Darth Vader NEVER says those words. He says, "No...I am your father," after Luke says Obi-Wan told him Darth Vader killed his father. But if you ask just about 90 percent of the population for the most famous line from the "Star Wars" saga, they'll likely say, in a deep voice, "LUUUUKE, I AM YOUR FAAAAATHER." It's got nothing to do with alternate realities or parallel universes and has everything to do with Chris Farley. In "Tommy Boy", David Spade's character walks in on Farley's character mouthing words into a fan, and he says, "LUUUUKE, LUUUUKE, I AAAAM YOOOOUUUR FAAAAATHER." And for whatever reason, that line has stuck in our minds more than the actual words spoken by James Earl Jones, to the point that we believe Darth Vader actually says, "Luke, I am your father." But even James Earl Jones himself has attested on more than one occasion that he vividly recalled it as "Luke, I am your father." also C3PO's Silver Leg? I had the toys man, watched the movies over and over and that dude always had 2 gold legs. What's up with that huh?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 22:46:46 GMT -5
"Luke, I am your father." Darth Vader NEVER says those words. He says, "No...I am your father," after Luke says Obi-Wan told him Darth Vader killed his father. But if you ask just about 90 percent of the population for the most famous line from the "Star Wars" saga, they'll likely say, in a deep voice, "LUUUUKE, I AM YOUR FAAAAATHER." It's got nothing to do with alternate realities or parallel universes and has everything to do with Chris Farley. In "Tommy Boy", David Spade's character walks in on Farley's character mouthing words into a fan, and he says, "LUUUUKE, LUUUUKE, I AAAAM YOOOOUUUR FAAAAATHER." And for whatever reason, that line has stuck in our minds more than the actual words spoken by James Earl Jones, to the point that we believe Darth Vader actually says, "Luke, I am your father." Has nothing to do with Chris Farley, the Luke I am your father misquote has been parodied hundred of times before that. It's that just going "No, I am your father" doesn't really give the context of the reference (or is as easy to work into a conversation) as well as saying LUKE does. Yes i brushed on that in the AVGN thread. A famous quote is repeated many times, just slightly off of what the actual quote is, and many people assume the new one was the original quote |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 31, 2016 5:58:51 GMT -5
Has nothing to do with Chris Farley, the Luke I am your father misquote has been parodied hundred of times before that. It's that just going "No, I am your father" doesn't really give the context of the reference (or is as easy to work into a conversation) as well as saying LUKE does. Yes i brushed on that in the AVGN thread. A famous quote is repeated many times, just slightly off of what the actual quote is, and many people assume the new one was the original quote Yeah, TVTropes tracks those on a page ccalled "Beam Me Up, Scotty" (which noone ever said either) |
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