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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 29, 2017 6:53:23 GMT -5
Carpenter is more a second and Third base player. Best used I think as split time maybe with Gryoko. I don't see him as the best 1st best option. Didn't they move him from 3rd and 2nd because he wasn't cutting it at those positions anymore I remember for the longest he was at 2nd and 3rd and then they said f*** it and moved him to 1st Thats the things now, he isn't what been said locked in for 1st base right now and been told to be ready to play multi positions because of Jose Martinez and possible moves. That the issue with Carp and I get why they love him and fans do too. Yes good lead off hitter but last year they believed he was a middle of the order guy which he isn't and he proved that. I think at some point you have to wonder how much longer can you go with him and give up defense? He lost second because Wong proved he was a better defensive player and when on his game can hit. We saw a lot of that last year from him. It's a tough move to make. Unless Jose really can teach him a lot to make him better than good deal. Even at first I still wonder if Gryoko can be the everyday 3rd basemen who is there best option because when he was healthy last year he was fine defensively. His overall stats where not much different compared to Moose (The most likely third basemen your going to get) As much the Cardinals wants Donaldson, I don't see him moving and hell I wouldn't be surprised if Carp has to be in that deal to get him.
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Post by sfvega on Dec 29, 2017 11:10:08 GMT -5
Didn't they move him from 3rd and 2nd because he wasn't cutting it at those positions anymore I remember for the longest he was at 2nd and 3rd and then they said f*** it and moved him to 1st Thats the things now, he isn't what been said locked in for 1st base right now and been told to be ready to play multi positions because of Jose Martinez and possible moves. That the issue with Carp and I get why they love him and fans do too. Yes good lead off hitter but last year they believed he was a middle of the order guy which he isn't and he proved that. I think at some point you have to wonder how much longer can you go with him and give up defense? He lost second because Wong proved he was a better defensive player and when on his game can hit. We saw a lot of that last year from him. It's a tough move to make. Unless Jose really can teach him a lot to make him better than good deal. Even at first I still wonder if Gryoko can be the everyday 3rd basemen who is there best option because when he was healthy last year he was fine defensively. His overall stats where not much different compared to Moose (The most likely third basemen your going to get) As much the Cardinals wants Donaldson, I don't see him moving and hell I wouldn't be surprised if Carp has to be in that deal to get him. We need a leadoff hitter though, and Fowler and Pham didn't work out there and Carp had a .384 OBP last year. So while declining as a hitter, he can still work the count and get on. He is 32 and it's tough to see him still being here 3 years from now. Wong had a good bounce-back year last year, but his career BA/OBP numbers aren't great. He also did best hitting 7th or 8th (slashing over .300/.400) and very average at leadoff (.254/.324). In the end, I think Gyorko is the odd man out unless we get Moose. Then I think they platoon Carp and Martinez. Gyorko's power is less important with the acquisition of Ozuna. We still need a leadoff hitter and for now Carp is that guy. Right now a few places have us hitting Carpenter Pham Fowler Ozuna Molina Martinez DeJong Wong Which I think is how it'll shake out. And honestly I like it. Carp had a .384 OBP, Pham .411, and Folwer was white hot when he was fully healthy and you set the plate for one of the biggest power hitters in the NL. That's gonna be old school Matheny's thinking, right or wrong.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 29, 2017 11:38:09 GMT -5
Thats the things now, he isn't what been said locked in for 1st base right now and been told to be ready to play multi positions because of Jose Martinez and possible moves. That the issue with Carp and I get why they love him and fans do too. Yes good lead off hitter but last year they believed he was a middle of the order guy which he isn't and he proved that. I think at some point you have to wonder how much longer can you go with him and give up defense? He lost second because Wong proved he was a better defensive player and when on his game can hit. We saw a lot of that last year from him. It's a tough move to make. Unless Jose really can teach him a lot to make him better than good deal. Even at first I still wonder if Gryoko can be the everyday 3rd basemen who is there best option because when he was healthy last year he was fine defensively. His overall stats where not much different compared to Moose (The most likely third basemen your going to get) As much the Cardinals wants Donaldson, I don't see him moving and hell I wouldn't be surprised if Carp has to be in that deal to get him. We need a leadoff hitter though, and Fowler and Pham didn't work out there and Carp had a .384 OBP last year. So while declining as a hitter, he can still work the count and get on. He is 32 and it's tough to see him still being here 3 years from now. Wong had a good bounce-back year last year, but his career BA/OBP numbers aren't great. He also did best hitting 7th or 8th (slashing over .300/.400) and very average at leadoff (.254/.324). In the end, I think Gyorko is the odd man out unless we get Moose. Then I think they platoon Carp and Martinez. Gyorko's power is less important with the acquisition of Ozuna. We still need a leadoff hitter and for now Carp is that guy. Right now a few places have us hitting Carpenter Pham Fowler Ozuna Molina Martinez DeJong Wong Which I think is how it'll shake out. And honestly I like it. Carp had a .384 OBP, Pham .411, and Folwer was white hot when he was fully healthy and you set the plate for one of the biggest power hitters in the NL. That's gonna be old school Matheny's thinking, right or wrong. Gyorko case that he is the better defender and the last two years we saw that as a problem behind the base running. It got better once DeJong and Gyorko took over at 3rd and Shortstop. I think Carptenter at 1st base would be more likely, because defense needs to be at it's best and between Carpenter and Martinez the skill level is about the same as Martinez is more an outfielder, but the leadoff stop is where Carp is needed. In order for the starting rotation as it sits to have the best chance to be successful, we need a good infield defense. I think they Cardinals need to look at that and see who is going to give you the best of both worlds. Unless they sign Moose or Hosmer who are known to be everyday guys and have power and gets RBIs. The good part is either one you sign improves that position defensively and gives you a good bat to be around Ozuna. Than Carp can play either spot from there and Gyorko who I do like as a defender, I still have my unsure IF he can be everyday player but he is the better currently 3rd base guy we have right now.
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Post by Perd on Dec 29, 2017 12:23:45 GMT -5
Wade Davis signed with the Rockies 3/52. He was great for the Cubs. But I don’t mind not paying him 17 million a year.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 29, 2017 12:48:51 GMT -5
Wade Davis signed with the Rockies 3/52. He was great for the Cubs. But I don’t mind not paying him 17 million a year. Yeah that is a pretty high price tag for a closer and there is more of a risk compared to a starter. There been times free agent closers turn into a bust. You gotta wonder how Davis will do in CO with the way it effects pitchs because of the high Altitude.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 29, 2017 13:57:49 GMT -5
Yankees have interest in Yu Darvish and would seriously consider offering him a contract.
I assume the asking price for Cole is getting to high. In order to offer Darvish a contract and move under the luxury tax they would have to move Ellsbury who has said he’s willing to waive his no trade for a few select teams, one of them being the Giants.
Will see how it plays out but that’s a lot of moving pieces to make this work out tho Yankees are determined to have a dominant 4 man rotation with the veteran C.C being your fifth starter
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 29, 2017 13:59:16 GMT -5
Wade Davis signed with the Rockies 3/52. He was great for the Cubs. But I don’t mind not paying him 17 million a year. Steep. Tho it’s no secret that Madden likes a revolving door at closer so I wonder who they pick up this year
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Post by sfvega on Dec 29, 2017 16:15:54 GMT -5
Wade Davis signed with the Rockies 3/52. He was great for the Cubs. But I don’t mind not paying him 17 million a year. Steep. Tho it’s no secret that Madden likes a revolving door at closer so I wonder who they pick up this year Juat throw Edwards Jr in the role.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 12:30:36 GMT -5
Wade Davis signed with the Rockies 3/52. He was great for the Cubs. But I don’t mind not paying him 17 million a year. Didn't see that coming.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 31, 2017 11:20:24 GMT -5
Wade Davis signed with the Rockies 3/52. He was great for the Cubs. But I don’t mind not paying him 17 million a year. Didn't see that coming. Rockies have spent a lot of money this offseason on the bullpen
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 2, 2018 18:01:03 GMT -5
Cold Stove continue but here's some news
Padres suppsoedly have an offer of 7 years for Eric Hosmer but the Cardinals are still in on him as well
J.D. Martinez is sitting on a 5 year deal from the Red Sox
Cubs are willing to bring back Arietta for 4 years and $110 million
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Post by fw91 on Jan 2, 2018 18:41:31 GMT -5
If I was Arietta, no reason to refuse that.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 2, 2018 18:45:30 GMT -5
If I was Arietta, no reason to refuse that. All offseason he's been on a quest for a 5th year He wants to be around same money and years as Darvish
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Post by fw91 on Jan 2, 2018 18:56:30 GMT -5
If I was Arietta, no reason to refuse that. All offseason he's been on a quest for a 5th year He wants to be around same money and years as Darvish i think days off handing out $100M contracts are numbered. Jake should just take the money and run.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 2, 2018 19:00:23 GMT -5
All offseason he's been on a quest for a 5th year He wants to be around same money and years as Darvish i think days off handing out $100M contracts are numbered. Jake should just take the money and run. Oh I agree. He should take the $100 million from the cubs but he’s def going to fight for that 5th year Supposedly some other teams were interested but I don’t think he’s going to reach $150 million range If anything cubs might entertain a fifth year vesting option with a buyout
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Post by fw91 on Jan 2, 2018 19:02:39 GMT -5
i think days off handing out $100M contracts are numbered. Jake should just take the money and run. Oh I agree. He should take the $100 million from the cubs but he’s def going to fight for that 5th year Supposedly some other teams were interested but I don’t think he’s going to reach $150 million range If anything cubs might entertain a fifth year vesting option with a buyout I don't get the stubbornness of some players. In the grand scheme of things, what's one less year? It's not like they are only offering one year instead of two.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 2, 2018 19:12:05 GMT -5
Oh I agree. He should take the $100 million from the cubs but he’s def going to fight for that 5th year Supposedly some other teams were interested but I don’t think he’s going to reach $150 million range If anything cubs might entertain a fifth year vesting option with a buyout I don't get the stubbornness of some players. In the grand scheme of things, what's one less year? It's not like they are only offering one year instead of two. It’s a matter of security. For players like him not getting that extra year means they are losing out on $20 million or so and when they are a free agent again at age 34 or 35 there’s almost no way they will get that type of money again and will be stuck on 1-2 year contracts. At this point teams would rather pay a higher annual value than give out years which you can end up with bad contracts like David price. At the end of the day it’s about security which is why they fight hard for that deal. More than likely he will get a NTC wherever he goes to so he has that advantage
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Post by sfvega on Jan 2, 2018 19:56:32 GMT -5
Initially I disagreed that Arrieta should take that, but he did show signs of falling off last year. The clock is ticking on him. I feel like he could squeeze more out of another team, but every day he doesn't sign is closer to panic that this is the type of money he'll never see again. I wouldn't want to play that high stakes game of chicken, so that Cubs offer is good enough.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jan 3, 2018 1:52:55 GMT -5
Did the Giants sign both JD Martinez, Jay Bruce, and trade for Billy Hamilton yet?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 4, 2018 18:26:29 GMT -5
Rangers are pursuing OF Lorenzo Cain
Braves and Nats are interested in Christian Yelich and J.T. Realmuto
Brewers are also interested in Lorenzo Cain
That could be interesting because they've been lowkey on the Arrieta radar this year so they could make a big splash with 2 signings
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