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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 13, 2017 2:00:16 GMT -5
Prediction: Garoppolo gets dealt for a first rounder to Washington as Cousins ends up reuniting with his old OC in San Fran. There is no chance in hell Washington is letting Cousins leave. Even tagging him a second year is a smarter move than that. I really got to ask, what in the hell did you all see in those 2 games that makes you all think Garoppolo is more than a product of the Patriots system?. What did he do in those two games that set him apart from Cassel and Hoyer in your eyes? Why do you all think that if he actually was worth a 1st rd pick that Belichick would even consider trading him? QBs of that caliber are too precious and Brady isn't going to be there much longer.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Feb 13, 2017 8:04:06 GMT -5
Prediction: Garoppolo gets dealt for a first rounder to Washington as Cousins ends up reuniting with his old OC in San Fran. There is no chance in hell Washington is letting Cousins leave. Even tagging him a second year is a smarter move than that. I really got to ask, what in the hell did you all see in those 2 games that makes you all think Garoppolo is more than a product of the Patriots system?. What did he do in those two games that set him apart from Cassel and Hoyer in your eyes? Why do you all think that if he actually was worth a 1st rd pick that Belichick would even consider trading him? QBs of that caliber are too precious and Brady isn't going to be there much longer. That is a very legitimate question, we all saw what happened to Wes Welker when he got traded to Denver. Outside of the Patriots system, he didn't last long.
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Post by bob on Feb 13, 2017 11:20:07 GMT -5
via Adam Schefter's Twitter
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Post by Ganon83 on Feb 13, 2017 11:27:18 GMT -5
Prediction: Garoppolo gets dealt for a first rounder to Washington as Cousins ends up reuniting with his old OC in San Fran. There is no chance in hell Washington is letting Cousins leave. Even tagging him a second year is a smarter move than that. I really got to ask, what in the hell did you all see in those 2 games that makes you all think Garoppolo is more than a product of the Patriots system?. What did he do in those two games that set him apart from Cassel and Hoyer in your eyes? Why do you all think that if he actually was worth a 1st rd pick that Belichick would even consider trading him? QBs of that caliber are too precious and Brady isn't going to be there much longer. Never doubt the stupidity of a team owned by Dan Snyder. I don't even think Jimmy G is going to be that great of a player, but I can definitely see either Washington or San Fran being dumb enough to trade for him.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 13, 2017 13:48:32 GMT -5
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Post by Cyno on Feb 13, 2017 13:51:57 GMT -5
I feel bad for both of them. Cruz is probably done as a 1st string WR. He had some nice moments last season, but it's clear that Beckham and Shepard are going to be the new WR tandem. As for Jennings, he would've done a lot better if the Giants' offensive line could actually play the run worth a shit. Their running game being so terrible wasn't his fault.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 13, 2017 16:16:21 GMT -5
The Patriots have tracked down the ball that James White had to win Super Bowl LI.
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Post by andrew8798 on Feb 13, 2017 16:19:45 GMT -5
Coach Jay Gruden will handle play-calling duties on offense in 2017.
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Post by BRV on Feb 13, 2017 17:30:12 GMT -5
There is no chance in hell Washington is letting Cousins leave. Even tagging him a second year is a smarter move than that. I really got to ask, what in the hell did you all see in those 2 games that makes you all think Garoppolo is more than a product of the Patriots system?. What did he do in those two games that set him apart from Cassel and Hoyer in your eyes? Why do you all think that if he actually was worth a 1st rd pick that Belichick would even consider trading him? QBs of that caliber are too precious and Brady isn't going to be there much longer. You keep hanging on to this Matt Cassel comparison as if the two are one in the same. Cassel was a seventh-round pick who never started in four years of college football. Jimmy Garoppolo was a second-round pick (the highest a quarterback has ever been taken by Bill Belichick in the Tom Brady Era) who was a four-year starter in college and won the Walter Payton Award in his senior season. Also, Cassel was 27 when he went to the Chiefs, Garoppolo doesn't turn 26 until November. Just because one struggled outside of the walls of Gillette Stadium doesn't mean everyone is bound to. Yes, there have obviously been more negatives than positives when it comes to quarterbacks who backed up Tom Brady (Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett are two examples) but if that's the barometer that general managers are using to evaluate talent, then they're cutting off their nose to spite their face. There's no logic in saying, "Well Matt Cassel and Brian Hoyer weren't franchise quarterbacks, so that means Jimmy Garoppolo won't be either." There's no correlation among them other than the quarterback they held the clipboard under.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 13, 2017 18:09:03 GMT -5
There is no chance in hell Washington is letting Cousins leave. Even tagging him a second year is a smarter move than that. I really got to ask, what in the hell did you all see in those 2 games that makes you all think Garoppolo is more than a product of the Patriots system?. What did he do in those two games that set him apart from Cassel and Hoyer in your eyes? Why do you all think that if he actually was worth a 1st rd pick that Belichick would even consider trading him? QBs of that caliber are too precious and Brady isn't going to be there much longer. You keep hanging on to this Matt Cassel comparison as if the two are one in the same. Cassel was a seventh-round pick who never started in four years of college football. Jimmy Garoppolo was a second-round pick (the highest a quarterback has ever been taken by Bill Belichick in the Tom Brady Era) who was a four-year starter in college and won the Walter Payton Award in his senior season. Also, Cassel was 27 when he went to the Chiefs, Garoppolo doesn't turn 26 until November. Just because one struggled outside of the walls of Gillette Stadium doesn't mean everyone is bound to. Yes, there have obviously been more negatives than positives when it comes to quarterbacks who backed up Tom Brady (Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett are two examples) but if that's the barometer that general managers are using to evaluate talent, then they're cutting off their nose to spite their face. There's no logic in saying, "Well Matt Cassel and Brian Hoyer weren't franchise quarterbacks, so that means Jimmy Garoppolo won't be either." There's no correlation among them other than the quarterback they held the clipboard under. I think the thing is that a backup in New England has not been successful yet so yeah, fans are going to think that taking a New England backup might not be worth the time.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 13, 2017 18:14:49 GMT -5
There is no chance in hell Washington is letting Cousins leave. Even tagging him a second year is a smarter move than that. I really got to ask, what in the hell did you all see in those 2 games that makes you all think Garoppolo is more than a product of the Patriots system?. What did he do in those two games that set him apart from Cassel and Hoyer in your eyes? Why do you all think that if he actually was worth a 1st rd pick that Belichick would even consider trading him? QBs of that caliber are too precious and Brady isn't going to be there much longer. You keep hanging on to this Matt Cassel comparison as if the two are one in the same. Cassel was a seventh-round pick who never started in four years of college football. Jimmy Garoppolo was a second-round pick (the highest a quarterback has ever been taken by Bill Belichick in the Tom Brady Era) who was a four-year starter in college and won the Walter Payton Award in his senior season. Also, Cassel was 27 when he went to the Chiefs, Garoppolo doesn't turn 26 until November. Just because one struggled outside of the walls of Gillette Stadium doesn't mean everyone is bound to. Yes, there have obviously been more negatives than positives when it comes to quarterbacks who backed up Tom Brady (Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett are two examples) but if that's the barometer that general managers are using to evaluate talent, then they're cutting off their nose to spite their face. There's no logic in saying, "Well Matt Cassel and Brian Hoyer weren't franchise quarterbacks, so that means Jimmy Garoppolo won't be either." There's no correlation among them other than the quarterback they held the clipboard under. You keep missing my point. My point isn't that he isn't a franchise QB. My point is that at this point he has not shown more than they had that he is. Actually, at this point Cassel had shown more when the Chiefs traded for him than Garoppolo has. I'm not saying that there isn't value there. I'm saying that there isn't enough evidence to support the notion that any team should bet the bank on him. I'm also saying that at this point if Belichick honestly thinks he is a franchise QB he isn't about to entertain trading him at all, let alone for a single pick (even if it is a 1st). If Brady was 5 years younger, that would be different, but at this point if you have a franchise QB waiting in the wings behind a 40 yr old starter, you do not ever let him go. The fact that all of this trade talk does not get shut down is indication enough that he has not shown enough in practice to sell Belichick and he certainly has not done enough on the field to sell anyone else that you risk trading a 1st on him.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 13, 2017 18:59:59 GMT -5
Matt Cassell once had a season where he threw 27 tds and only 7 ints.
That's amazing. Other than that year, he's at 76/72
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Post by andrew8798 on Feb 13, 2017 19:56:04 GMT -5
TMZ Sports reports suspended Raiders OLB Aldon Smith is under investigation in California for a "domestic incident."
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Feb 14, 2017 6:07:00 GMT -5
Dear Ted Thompson: THROW BIG MONEY AT JENNINGS. Sincerely, Desperate Packers Fan
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Post by Push R Truth on Feb 14, 2017 9:11:25 GMT -5
Dear Ted Thompson: THROW BIG MONEY AT JENNINGS. Sincerely, Desperate Packers Fan Dear Ted Thompson: THROW BIG MONEY AT JENNINGS. Sincerely, All Non-Packer Fans Pack doesn't need a big money running back, unless you want to fall into a trap. I'm not convinced you'd need big money to land Jennings anyway.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Feb 14, 2017 10:39:17 GMT -5
Dear Ted Thompson: THROW BIG MONEY AT JENNINGS. Sincerely, Desperate Packers Fan Dear Ted Thompson: THROW BIG MONEY AT JENNINGS. Sincerely, All Non-Packer Fans Pack doesn't need a big money running back, unless you want to fall into a trap. I'm not convinced you'd need big money to land Jennings anyway. The thing is, Starks is gone, Lacy is probably going to follow him out, Michael may be the same situation, and Montgomery isn't guaranteed to be good next year. And we desperately need, among many other things, a running game. I would be willing to take a chance on Jennings if it meant we could be a much better team next season.
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Post by Renslayer on Feb 14, 2017 11:08:57 GMT -5
I can watch Moss highlights forever and ever.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 14, 2017 17:05:59 GMT -5
I haven't really paid much attention to Green Bay's O-line and how they block for the run, but if they can do a better job than the Giants' line did, Jennings would be a pretty decent pickup. If they can't block for the run, Jennings isn't really going to improve the running game a whole lot.
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Post by Ganon83 on Feb 15, 2017 1:03:41 GMT -5
One thing we all may be forgetting: there's a pretty good chance that when Brady retires, Belichick retires. So I don't really know if Belichick cares that much about keeping a potential franchise QB for after Brady goes.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 15, 2017 3:21:18 GMT -5
Dear Ted Thompson: THROW BIG MONEY AT JENNINGS. Sincerely, Desperate Packers Fan But why would you want to spend big money on Jennings? He's coming off a year where he averaged 3 yards a carry, and is 31. The Packers can find somebody better, younger, and cheaper in free agency or the Draft. Unless it's one of the upper elite backs, you don't break out the big money.
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