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Post by Woo on Dec 14, 2016 13:50:30 GMT -5
I was just watching pretty much every Lucha Underground backstage segment and Rey is amazing in the promos. His acting, his delivery just everything he does is on point. Yeah I know in LU he is given great material to say and great angles to work with and that in LU he can do multiple takes but still Rey is killing it and I've not enjoyed him this much in years. He even manages to do great when they give him tons of exposition to say.
It does make me wonder though who else is being held back by the WWE in terms of promos and why they don't do multiple takes with their backstage promos. Like surely that's the advantage of a backstage promo over one in the ring- you can reshoot it. So why don't they.
But anyway Rey is great and I loved his line about retiring Chavo "Sometimes you have to put down a dog... for its own sake." Total badass!
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 14, 2016 14:00:47 GMT -5
"Killing it?" "...put down a dog" (or "Perro"?) Bad choices of words on both ends...
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Post by Woo on Dec 16, 2016 5:25:07 GMT -5
"Killing it?" "...put down a dog" (or "Perro"?) Bad choices of words on both ends... Why's that? Did I miss the news story where Rey was caught killing dogs? |
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 16, 2016 9:52:41 GMT -5
Haven't seen much of Lucha Underground but now I might have to. I can't imagine Rey as a good promo. In fact I can't even imagine him saying any words other than "EDDIIIIIIEEEEEE!!!" Or "Lemmie hear the call of the soldier: HOOOOLEEEHOOOOOOOO!!!" In his prepubescent voice.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 16, 2016 10:39:26 GMT -5
"Killing it?" "...put down a dog" (or "Perro"?) Bad choices of words on both ends... Why's that? Did I miss the news story where Rey was caught killing dogs? Not a dog... but uh... there was an incident in the ring where a guy died in a match with Rey. |
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Post by bob on Dec 16, 2016 11:06:03 GMT -5
I misread the title as "Rey Mysterio is in amazing porno "
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 11:09:44 GMT -5
I misread the title as "Rey Mysterio is in amazing porno " BU-KAKE! BU-KAKE! BU-KAKE! SIX-TY NINE! GAY MYSTERIO! |
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Dec 16, 2016 20:27:01 GMT -5
I misread the title as "Rey Mysterio is in amazing porno " BU-KAKE! BU-KAKE! BU-KAKE! SIX-TY NINE! GAY MYSTERIO! WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THEY CUM ON YOU!? I'm ashamed. |
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Dec 16, 2016 22:06:44 GMT -5
I misread the title as "Rey Mysterio is in amazing porno " BU-KAKE! BU-KAKE! BU-KAKE! SIX-TY NINE! GAY MYSTERIO! I'm almost certain that exact line popped up on the old Raw closed captions threads at least once. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 17, 2016 9:42:26 GMT -5
Most people with a little acting talent can cut an amazing promo in a pre-taped segment, just look at Sean O'Haire, the problem with that is most wrestling companies rely on live events and all the great pre-taped segments are meaningless if you can't perform as well in front of a crowd. I think Lucha Underground is like ECW in a way, the level of protection it's style provides will eventually start to leave fans with a misleading impression of how strong some people are as performers and LU guys will be turned on when they start to produce more live shows as they can't repeat their 'greatness' in front of a crowd.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 17, 2016 10:21:07 GMT -5
Why's that? Did I miss the news story where Rey was caught killing dogs? Not a dog... but uh... there was an incident in the ring where a guy died in a match with Rey. Named "Perro" (Aguayo Jr.) |
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Post by Woo on Dec 18, 2016 4:09:43 GMT -5
Most people with a little acting talent can cut an amazing promo in a pre-taped segment, just look at Sean O'Haire, the problem with that is most wrestling companies rely on live events and all the great pre-taped segments are meaningless if you can't perform as well in front of a crowd. I think Lucha Underground is like ECW in a way, the level of protection it's style provides will eventually start to leave fans with a misleading impression of how strong some people are as performers and LU guys will be turned on when they start to produce more live shows as they can't repeat their 'greatness' in front of a crowd. They won't turn on them. There's no need to do promos in the ring. Lucha Underground's live shows will just be house shows basically and they won't need to do live promos there. Jake Roberts cut pretty much only backstage promos for almost all of his career. There's no reason why they couldn't have all been pre-taped. This whole "promo in the ring" thing is just a WWE creation and one they should be trying to cut back on. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 18, 2016 10:08:12 GMT -5
]They won't turn on them. There's no need to do promos in the ring. Lucha Underground's live shows will just be house shows basically and they won't need to do live promos there. Jake Roberts cut pretty much only backstage promos for almost all of his career. There's no reason why they couldn't have all been pre-taped. This whole "promo in the ring" thing is just a WWE creation and one they should be trying to cut back on. Being able to perform live is an important part of wrestling and while their shows may start out as house shows, I wouldn't at all be surprised if they had hopes of running some of their 'event' shows live at some point along the line and having everything but in ring action pretaped kinda goes against the concept of a live show. I have a hard time believing that live in ring promos are a WWE invention, given that WCW did them and wrestling companies ran shows for decades without the equipment required to show pre-taped segments to the live crowds. There is nothing wrong with an in ring promo, the problem is when they go on longer than any of the matches on the event as Triple H's tend to do. |
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Post by evilone on Dec 18, 2016 11:26:44 GMT -5
]They won't turn on them. There's no need to do promos in the ring. Lucha Underground's live shows will just be house shows basically and they won't need to do live promos there. Jake Roberts cut pretty much only backstage promos for almost all of his career. There's no reason why they couldn't have all been pre-taped. This whole "promo in the ring" thing is just a WWE creation and one they should be trying to cut back on. Being able to perform live is an important part of wrestling and while their shows may start out as house shows, I wouldn't at all be surprised if they had hopes of running some of their 'event' shows live at some point along the line and having everything but in ring action pretaped kinda goes against the concept of a live show. I have a hard time believing that live in ring promos are a WWE invention, given that WCW did them and wrestling companies ran shows for decades without the equipment required to show pre-taped segments to the live crowds. There is nothing wrong with an in ring promo, the problem is when they go on longer than any of the matches on the event as Triple H's tend to do. LU and mainstream wrestling are two different animals. LU is more of a Netflix series than actual sports event. No need to be live at all because then it's not LU anymore. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 18, 2016 11:38:54 GMT -5
LU live would get rid of most of their strong points. It also wouldn't be advisable since, don't they heavily rely on AAA? I figure part of why they have a working relationship with them is not interfering with AAA's business, and doing a more traditional show might create problems there.
That, and Triple Mania was a humiliating disaster, so I don't think they want to do anything remotely like it again for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 13:48:02 GMT -5
]They won't turn on them. There's no need to do promos in the ring. Lucha Underground's live shows will just be house shows basically and they won't need to do live promos there. Jake Roberts cut pretty much only backstage promos for almost all of his career. There's no reason why they couldn't have all been pre-taped. This whole "promo in the ring" thing is just a WWE creation and one they should be trying to cut back on. Being able to perform live is an important part of wrestling and while their shows may start out as house shows, I wouldn't at all be surprised if they had hopes of running some of their 'event' shows live at some point along the line and having everything but in ring action pretaped kinda goes against the concept of a live show. I have a hard time believing that live in ring promos are a WWE invention, given that WCW did them and wrestling companies ran shows for decades without the equipment required to show pre-taped segments to the live crowds. There is nothing wrong with an in ring promo, the problem is when they go on longer than any of the matches on the event as Triple H's tend to do. And pretty 99.5% of the independant don't have a Titantron that can show pre taped backstage promos and there's more energy if it's done in a live crowd. Like Enzo and Cass cutting there introduction would have no where the same energy as doing it backstage |
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Dec 18, 2016 13:59:49 GMT -5
Not a dog... but uh... there was an incident in the ring where a guy died in a match with Rey. Named "Perro" (Aguayo Jr.) Also, Chavo, dogs, and murders have a bad history. |
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Post by Woo on Dec 18, 2016 16:19:39 GMT -5
]They won't turn on them. There's no need to do promos in the ring. Lucha Underground's live shows will just be house shows basically and they won't need to do live promos there. Jake Roberts cut pretty much only backstage promos for almost all of his career. There's no reason why they couldn't have all been pre-taped. This whole "promo in the ring" thing is just a WWE creation and one they should be trying to cut back on. Being able to perform live is an important part of wrestling and while their shows may start out as house shows, I wouldn't at all be surprised if they had hopes of running some of their 'event' shows live at some point along the line and having everything but in ring action pretaped kinda goes against the concept of a live show. I have a hard time believing that live in ring promos are a WWE invention, given that WCW did them and wrestling companies ran shows for decades without the equipment required to show pre-taped segments to the live crowds. There is nothing wrong with an in ring promo, the problem is when they go on longer than any of the matches on the event as Triple H's tend to do. For the smaller indie promotions that don't have a tron yeah you need live promos, but for the rest of the indies and the bigger companies I don't think they are needed too much and in fact hurt the product. Most of the greatst promos from Cane Dewey to Hard Times are done in a backstage format and I think that should go back to being the norm like it was in the 80's and 90's. |
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Post by Long A, Short A on Dec 19, 2016 0:26:37 GMT -5
BU-KAKE! BU-KAKE! BU-KAKE! SIX-TY NINE! GAY MYSTERIO! I'm almost certain that exact line popped up on the old Raw closed captions threads at least once. I remember those threads and that line popped up in the song. Hell, every CCC version of that song was nasty as f***. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 19, 2016 9:23:47 GMT -5
For those LU house shows this year, a couple of the wrestlers cut promos in the ring. Vampiro basically was the M.C. and did a segment of choke slamming his therapist. Johnny Mundo did some. Live promos are a part of pro wrestling since the carnival tent days. Anyone can cut a great promo if you do retakes and editing.
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